God bless them one and all !

[CharlieH]

When you are advancing in years, you have worked hard all your life, paid your dues etc, then for various reasons you decide to move to warmer climates, where things are a bit easier and you can feel the warm sun on your back or stroll and smell the sea air. Maybs the love of your life has passed on, maybe you have finally escaped from that not so great marriage of 35 years. Lots of reasons for a change, and if the retirement fund goes further too thats a bonus.

Then you have the "human" aspect, the social aspect, every one enjoys some company, and as you advance in years, female companionship may not be so easy, you may look older,the body may not be what it used to be, but inside you are still that 30 year old guy but a lot wiser, a lot more experienced, you are not ready for the big sleep just yet!

So, you head to the likes of Pattaya, where all those things described above are in abundance, and despite being in a foriegn land they even have some familiar food, some people in the same boat, similar circumstances but still want to live life and have some fun.

Then enters the "professionals" the beautiful young ladies of the night. The ones that encourage you, flirt with you, make you feel like that young man again. That feeling, even if for a short time of being cared for, being loved and someone gives a damn, even if deep down you know its really for the money. It doesnt matter, she's happy, she gets what she wants, and so do you, everyones a winner.

These girls are providing a "service" they are paid for that service, in some cases there lives are totally changed for the better and that of their immediate family, security for life. So to the ladies (and men) who work in Pattaya, enriching and possibly even prolonging the lives of the older generation that you encounter, god bless you, one and all for making so many people smile again and enjoy they latter years.

Dedicated to "whereyoustay"

[kannot]

I can really understand people wanting to feel young again...............just keep the fantasy monster out of the title.

[wow64]

I can really understand people wanting to feel young again...............just keep the fantasy monster out of the title.

Whereustay just likes his girls allot older... . I think its discusting lol

Sent from my c64

Edited May 25, 2014 by wow64

[Neeranam]

Nice post but for every woman's life that changes for the better, there is one that changes for the worse. I've met literally hundreds that have got addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Fair enough there is a place where all that want this prostitution disguised as something else can be together by a dirty sea.

Myself, I'd hope that I got wiser as I reached my final years.

In this country, there is a tradition of older retired men practicing renunciation.

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

There ain't no fool like an old fool.

[AYJAYDEE]

Nice post but for every woman's life that changes for the better, there is one that changes for the worse. I've met literally hundreds that have got addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Fair enough there is a place where all that want this prostitution disguised as something else can be together by a dirty sea.

Myself, I'd hope that I got wiser as I reached my final years.

In this country, there is a tradition of older retired men practicing renunciation.

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

There ain't no fool like an old fool.

all your opportunities dont seem to have taught you much about the 3 rd precept

[NanLaew]

Nice post but for every woman's life that changes for the better, there is one that changes for the worse. I've met literally hundreds that have got addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Fair enough there is a place where all that want this prostitution disguised as something else can be together by a dirty sea.

Myself, I'd hope that I got wiser as I reached my final years.

In this country, there is a tradition of older retired men practicing renunciation.

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

There ain't no fool like an old fool.

Unless it's a proselytizing old fool.

[Neeranam]

Nice post but for every woman's life that changes for the better, there is one that changes for the worse. I've met literally hundreds that have got addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Fair enough there is a place where all that want this prostitution disguised as something else can be together by a dirty sea.

Myself, I'd hope that I got wiser as I reached my final years.

In this country, there is a tradition of older retired men practicing renunciation.

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

There ain't no fool like an old fool.

all your opportunities dont seem to have taught you much about the 3 rd precept

What are you on about?

BTW, I'm not a Buddhist.

[AYJAYDEE]

Nice post but for every woman's life that changes for the better, there is one that changes for the worse. I've met literally hundreds that have got addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Fair enough there is a place where all that want this prostitution disguised as something else can be together by a dirty sea.

Myself, I'd hope that I got wiser as I reached my final years.

In this country, there is a tradition of older retired men practicing renunciation.

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

There ain't no fool like an old fool.

all your opportunities dont seem to have taught you much about the 3 rd precept

What are you on about?

BTW, I'm not a Buddhist.

preaching detachment and lecturing others on how they spend their retirement and calling them fools for not doing what you think they should do.

[Neeranam]

Nice post but for every woman's life that changes for the better, there is one that changes for the worse. I've met literally hundreds that have got addicted to drugs and alcohol.

Fair enough there is a place where all that want this prostitution disguised as something else can be together by a dirty sea.

Myself, I'd hope that I got wiser as I reached my final years.

In this country, there is a tradition of older retired men practicing renunciation.

It embarrasses me to have fellow countrymen who instead of utilizing all the great opportunities in Thailand to detach from worldy attachments before they die, choose to live in a brothel. Attachments to worldly pleasures are deceptive and don't give real satisfaction, but cause suffering.

There ain't no fool like an old fool.

all your opportunities dont seem to have taught you much about the 3 rd precept

What are you on about?

BTW, I'm not a Buddhist.

preaching detachment and lecturing others on how they spend their retirement and calling them fools for not doing what you think they should do.

Wait a minute, please point out the preaching bit.

Do you know what the 3rd precept is?

[AYJAYDEE]

read your posts. and yes

[Neeranam]

read your posts. and yes

You make no sense and are now irritating, bye.

[chrisinth]

Very nice post Charlie, I know of dozens of folk that your description would cover. Unfortunately I only know a few that accepted their 'new' life experience for what it was while many others crashed and burned in their own fantasies. I also know the other side as mentioned by Neeranam earlier that for every woman's life that changes for the better, another can change for the worse. But, that is life unfortunately, not everyone is marked to be a winner.

As long as the group that you cover in the OP know the rules of the game, because like it or not, that is what it is, they will be fine and enjoy a happier life. It is the ones that don't, or don't know where to find the rule book, that need to be careful.

Fortunately, I am not a member of said group as I am considerably younger, but that would open another insight as to why others arrived on these shores and the allure Thailand presented to them. Another time perhaps........

IMHO of course...................

[Old Stud]

The latest whereyoustay thread was rude. Thank you CharlieH - well put.

re. Old Stud: I'm in my mid-60's and a true gentleman. I hadn't been with a steady woman for many years before decided to "let go" and open myself to what Thailand has to offer. I first went to Pattaya two years ago. I dove right in and went for it for two weeks on Walking Street.

During those two weeks I experienced an incredible sexual healing. No seminar in the world would have been more effective than the random encounters I had with these wonderful young women. First off, (I know sexual Tantra) I began with an honoring. No woman really wants to be treated like trash. I would interrupt their routine and say cha cha, and to them "what you want?" The I would proceed to make them happy. How do I know? (whereyoustay should pay me to find out) Because I can speak Thai to them, -- because I am very different than the young boom-boom buck. I have heard their same story many times — they would rather be with the older gentleman who honors and respects them, than the young buck who sees them as a tool to get off with. These gals are real people - most have really good hearts, and are doing the best job they can find.

What whereyoustay and his agreers fail to realize is that we're all human. We want to be touched and loved in some way, no matter how old or ugly we are. If every woman you encounter in your home country turns her back - and now for 2000 baht you can snuggle all night and feel the warmth of a body next to yours, why not? Wait until whereyoustay is twenty years older and feels just the same as he does today, and idiots like him spew their ignorant judgments. It's quite possible to be 70 and feel younger and more vital than you did at 20. I can attest. With wisdom and grace added to the mix, it can be very attractive to a woman.

As far as these "pasty old men" — if they are drinking every night, they don't have that much time in life, before it either stops working or they're dead - so let them have a little fun before its too late.

[Neeranam]

What whereyoustay and his agreers fail to realize is that we're all human. We want to be touched and loved in some way, no matter how old or ugly we are. If every woman you encounter in your home country turns her back - and now for 2000 baht you can snuggle all night and feel the warmth of a body next to yours, why not? Wait until whereyoustay is twenty years older and feels just the same as he does today, and idiots like him spew their ignorant judgments. It's quite possible to be 70 and feel younger and more vital than you did at 20. I can attest. With wisdom and grace added to the mix, it can be very attractive to a woman.

Are you really saying that you believe you are attractive to young women in Pattaya?

I wonder if you used prostitutes in your own country? If so, did you boast about them finding you attractive ?

Do you tell you children and/or other relatives that you pay poor, uneducated girls, many who are forced into the sex trade, for sex regularly and that's why you moved to Thailand?

I wonder if Pattaya has SA? probably not as it would be like starting AA in a night club.

So many sufferers in denial.

[Neeranam]

The_40_Questions_of_SLAA.pdf

http://www.slaafws.org/slaaforme

[AYJAYDEE]

What whereyoustay and his agreers fail to realize is that we're all human. We want to be touched and loved in some way, no matter how old or ugly we are. If every woman you encounter in your home country turns her back - and now for 2000 baht you can snuggle all night and feel the warmth of a body next to yours, why not? Wait until whereyoustay is twenty years older and feels just the same as he does today, and idiots like him spew their ignorant judgments. It's quite possible to be 70 and feel younger and more vital than you did at 20. I can attest. With wisdom and grace added to the mix, it can be very attractive to a woman.

Are you really saying that you believe you are attractive to young women in Pattaya?

I wonder if you used prostitutes in your own country? If so, did you boast about them finding you attractive ?

Do you tell you children and/or other relatives that you pay poor, uneducated girls, many who are forced into the sex trade, for sex regularly and that's why you moved to Thailand?

I wonder if Pattaya has SA? probably not as it would be like starting AA in a night club.

So many sufferers in denial.

so judgemental

[Neeranam]

What whereyoustay and his agreers fail to realize is that we're all human. We want to be touched and loved in some way, no matter how old or ugly we are. If every woman you encounter in your home country turns her back - and now for 2000 baht you can snuggle all night and feel the warmth of a body next to yours, why not? Wait until whereyoustay is twenty years older and feels just the same as he does today, and idiots like him spew their ignorant judgments. It's quite possible to be 70 and feel younger and more vital than you did at 20. I can attest. With wisdom and grace added to the mix, it can be very attractive to a woman.

Are you really saying that you believe you are attractive to young women in Pattaya?

I wonder if you used prostitutes in your own country? If so, did you boast about them finding you attractive ?

Do you tell you children and/or other relatives that you pay poor, uneducated girls, many who are forced into the sex trade, for sex regularly and that's why you moved to Thailand?

I wonder if Pattaya has SA? probably not as it would be like starting AA in a night club.

So many sufferers in denial.

so judgemental

Before you judge me, make sure your life is perfect and forever will be.

Seems like I have a stalker - you never stalked me in your previous incarnations on this forum!

I am not being judgmental any, I'm asking questions and trying to help someone who I suspect has addiction issues.

[AYJAYDEE]

What whereyoustay and his agreers fail to realize is that we're all human. We want to be touched and loved in some way, no matter how old or ugly we are. If every woman you encounter in your home country turns her back - and now for 2000 baht you can snuggle all night and feel the warmth of a body next to yours, why not? Wait until whereyoustay is twenty years older and feels just the same as he does today, and idiots like him spew their ignorant judgments. It's quite possible to be 70 and feel younger and more vital than you did at 20. I can attest. With wisdom and grace added to the mix, it can be very attractive to a woman.

Are you really saying that you believe you are attractive to young women in Pattaya?

I wonder if you used prostitutes in your own country? If so, did you boast about them finding you attractive ?

Do you tell you children and/or other relatives that you pay poor, uneducated girls, many who are forced into the sex trade, for sex regularly and that's why you moved to Thailand?

I wonder if Pattaya has SA? probably not as it would be like starting AA in a night club.

So many sufferers in denial.

so judgemental

Before you judge me, make sure your life is perfect and forever will be.

Seems like I have a stalker - you never stalked me in your previous incarnations on this forum!

I am not being judgmental any, I'm asking questions and trying to help someone who I suspect has addiction issues.

i had no previous incarnations on this forum. I'm just trying to help someone who i suspect has judgmental issues

[bangkoklasse]

The latest whereyoustay thread was rude. Thank you CharlieH - well put.

re. Old Stud: I'm in my mid-60's and a true gentleman. I hadn't been with a steady woman for many years before decided to "let go" and open myself to what Thailand has to offer. I first went to Pattaya two years ago. I dove right in and went for it for two weeks on Walking Street.

During those two weeks I experienced an incredible sexual healing. No seminar in the world would have been more effective than the random encounters I had with these wonderful young women. First off, (I know sexual Tantra) I began with an honoring. No woman really wants to be treated like trash. I would interrupt their routine and say cha cha, and to them "what you want?" The I would proceed to make them happy. How do I know? (whereyoustay should pay me to find out) Because I can speak Thai to them, -- because I am very different than the young boom-boom buck. I have heard their same story many times — they would rather be with the older gentleman who honors and respects them, than the young buck who sees them as a tool to get off with. These gals are real people - most have really good hearts, and are doing the best job they can find.

What whereyoustay and his agreers fail to realize is that we're all human. We want to be touched and loved in some way, no matter how old or ugly we are. If every woman you encounter in your home country turns her back - and now for 2000 baht you can snuggle all night and feel the warmth of a body next to yours, why not? Wait until whereyoustay is twenty years older and feels just the same as he does today, and idiots like him spew their ignorant judgments. It's quite possible to be 70 and feel younger and more vital than you did at 20. I can attest. With wisdom and grace added to the mix, it can be very attractive to a woman.

As far as these "pasty old men" — if they are drinking every night, they don't have that much time in life, before it either stops working or they're dead - so let them have a little fun before its too late.

Ha ha ha you know Tantra and proceed to make them very happy ha ha ha. To be honest any prostitute would prefer to watch a Thai movie on TV instead of having sex with mid 60s farang if she got the same money.

[HeavyDrinker]

These "The girls still find me attractive in spite of the fact I'm old and repulsive" threads are somewhat disturbing and nicely summed up by Bangkoklasse in #19.

I guess the old adage ''if you tell the same lie enough times, it starts to sound like the truth" rings true in this case.

Because I can speak Thai to them, -- because I am very different than the young boom-boom buck

Congratulations. Do you imagine you're the only person who can speak Thai and communicate on any level with these girls?

Just look at her the next time you're giving her the benefit of your 'Tantra' after having had an in depth conversation with her about her deep inner feelings.

If you see a faraway look in her eyes it's probably not your imagined fantastic sexual technique taking her to a plane of unimagined ecstasy but her wishing she was with some young Thai buck and not some shrivelled prune like old pervert with a somewhat warped view of himself.

[thaibeachlovers]

The latest whereyoustay thread was rude. Thank you CharlieH - well put.

re. Old Stud: I'm in my mid-60's and a true gentleman. I hadn't been with a steady woman for many years before decided to "let go" and open myself to what Thailand has to offer. I first went to Pattaya two years ago. I dove right in and went for it for two weeks on Walking Street.

During those two weeks I experienced an incredible sexual healing. No seminar in the world would have been more effective than the random encounters I had with these wonderful young women. First off, (I know sexual Tantra) I began with an honoring. No woman really wants to be treated like trash. I would interrupt their routine and say cha cha, and to them "what you want?" The I would proceed to make them happy. How do I know? (whereyoustay should pay me to find out) Because I can speak Thai to them, -- because I am very different than the young boom-boom buck. I have heard their same story many times they would rather be with the older gentleman who honors and respects them, than the young buck who sees them as a tool to get off with. These gals are real people - most have really good hearts, and are doing the best job they can find.

What whereyoustay and his agreers fail to realize is that we're all human. We want to be touched and loved in some way, no matter how old or ugly we are. If every woman you encounter in your home country turns her back - and now for 2000 baht you can snuggle all night and feel the warmth of a body next to yours, why not? Wait until whereyoustay is twenty years older and feels just the same as he does today, and idiots like him spew their ignorant judgments. It's quite possible to be 70 and feel younger and more vital than you did at 20. I can attest. With wisdom and grace added to the mix, it can be very attractive to a woman.

As far as these "pasty old men" if they are drinking every night, they don't have that much time in life, before it either stops working or they're dead - so let them have a little fun before its too late.

Ha ha ha you know Tantra and proceed to make them very happy ha ha ha. To be honest any prostitute would prefer to watch a Thai movie on TV instead of having sex with mid 60s farang if she got the same money.

That's a silly statement. Who wouldn't have rather watched tv instead of doing some boring job if they got the same money. I did nursing for 26 years, and had I been paid the same money for doing a job I enjoyed, as opposed to being bullied by senior staff and abused by patients, I'd have abandoned nursing in a second.

While I was working though, I spent a lot of money having a good time in the fleshpots of Thailand and the rest I wasted. I don't regret a single satang.

Edited May 25, 2014 by thaibeachlovers

[Old Stud]

Boy - people in this forum sure know how to twist things - and take it was away from OP CharlieH's kind offering.

I didn't say I was attractive, but I am . . . neat and clean shaven and well dressed. (not an old fat farang slob - so please don't be so narrow minded to lump all 60+ men in your lard bucket) Have you never seen an attractive older gentleman, or do you think one would never stoop so low to write on TV forum? I'm a professional writer, and I absolutely don't have a sex addiction. I live a peaceful life in Chiang Mai writing novels and have yet to pick up a go-go bar gal here, FYI. And I didn't go to prostitutes where I came from, because I couldn't find any (Kauai, Hawaii) I think there should be Walking Streets in every city in the world.

Fact is - many (millions of) western men are screwed up sexually. Because I wanted to heal that issue with myself, I went with a Tantra Master to Pattaya , my first time two years ago,. If you don't know what a real sexual tantra master is, then look it up before passing judgment. Yes the girls were random, but my desire was for sexual healing, and I attracted the right gals. There is nothing wrong with going to where the object of your desire is located. From my many experiences with bar girls, I have only positive things to say. But the game got expensive, and quite a few over 35yo gals (not the 22yo) saw me as the rich farang who would marry her and take her away from this life. My attention to detail, to her pleasure, was absolutely attractive, believe it or not. And often confusing. And as I said, it helps that I can speak Thai - the dynamics changes when they are surprised with that man isn't another dumb old man tourist or horny young buck. More men should take the time to talk with these gals, hear the story, call bullshit when they're obviously lying and create some sort of connection before getting down to business. You'd be surprised how they change from pat answers, to relief in acceptance. And then open to the rare real pleasurable experience. I'm certainly not bragging - just emphasizing that it's pretty ignorant to lump all bar girls as lying money grubbing hookers, always bs'ing to get more money out of old fools . . . or to lump all older men as delusional dirty old men.

btw - any woman who is screaming with a genuine orgasm would rather be in that bliss moment than watching TV, but maybe bangkoklasse never had one? Don't underestimate the prowess of a healthy older man.

[Neeranam]

If you see a faraway look in her eyes it's probably not your imagined fantastic sexual technique taking her to a plane of unimagined ecstasy but her wishing she was with some young Thai buck and not some shrivelled prune like old pervert with a somewhat warped view of himself.

Spot on !

[Old Stud]

If you see a faraway look in her eyes it's probably not your imagined fantastic sexual technique taking her to a plane of unimagined ecstasy but her wishing she was with some young Thai buck and not some shrivelled prune like old pervert with a somewhat warped view of himself.

Spot on !

There you both go - making shit up and grouping all "type" people as the same. You should both know that "actions speak louder than words." Never said I was a sexual tantra teacher - but knowing how to please a woman is an art that not many men know. Don't knock something if you don't try it.

This man is 70.

[chrisinth]

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Old Stud, on 25 May 2014 - 15:30, said:

Neeranam, on 25 May 2014 - 15:06, said:

HeavyDrinker, on 25 May 2014 - 13:58, said:

If you see a faraway look in her eyes it's probably not your imagined fantastic sexual technique taking her to a plane of unimagined ecstasy but her wishing she was with some young Thai buck and not some shrivelled prune like old pervert with a somewhat warped view of himself.

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Spot on !

There you both go - making shit up and grouping all "type" people as the same. You should both know that "actions speak louder than words." Never said I was a sexual tantra teacher - but knowing how to please a woman is an art that not many men know. Don't knock something if you don't try it.

This man is 70.

He's got the same suntan as me, halfway up the upper arm...............

If he did the same job as me I could understand the toned body, but you'd need to wait 20 seconds and take another photo when he breathes.................

Edited May 25, 2014 by chrisinth

[Neeranam]

OMG I've seen it all now - old men posting photos of themselves on the internet thinking they are sexy. lol

Something very weird here - going to Walking street to try to sexually satisfy a Thai prostitute. lol

[Fookhaht]

Well, thank you for that testimonial on "Self-Healing Thru Prostitution." When's the book coming out?

[Neeranam]

If you see a faraway look in her eyes it's probably not your imagined fantastic sexual technique taking her to a plane of unimagined ecstasy but her wishing she was with some young Thai buck and not some shrivelled prune like old pervert with a somewhat warped view of himself.

Spot on !

There you both go - making shit up and grouping all "type" people as the same. You should both know that "actions speak louder than words." Never said I was a sexual tantra teacher - but knowing how to please a woman is an art that not many men know. Don't knock something if you don't try it.

This man is 70.

PLease tell me you don't kiss a Pattaya bar girl.

[HeavyDrinker]

So pretty much all you can get are scabby old bar girls for all you're imagined sexual prowess?

Grow up old man....

I'm sure your kids and grandkids will be proud to hear how grandpa can only bang knackered old whores and bring them to screaming orgasms because he's the only one who has uncovered the mystery of the clitoris and the Thai language....

I can just imagine the conversation;

Girl: "OK me go with you big man"

Old Stud: "How much?"

Girl: "1000 baht long time"

Old Stud: "Can I give you a screaming orgasm instead?"

Girl: " Far cough off you silly old t*at, I can't spend that"

I think you're living in some dream realm old man.

Edited May 25, 2014 by HeavyDrinker

[Fookhaht]

You're giving some of us truly handsome and fit older gents a bad name.

(Trying out my new waterproof cardiac arrest electric paddles)

Edited May 25, 2014 by Fookhaht