Survey reveals little faith in Thai justice system

[webfact]

Survey reveals little faith in Thai justice system

By The Nation

 

Premchai Karnasuta

 

Nearly two-thirds (64.2 per cent) of Thai people recently surveyed believe the case in which construction tycoon Premchai Karnasuta and three others are accused of poaching and possessing wildlife at the Thung Yai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary in Kanchanaburi would ultimately see no wrongdoers punished, because the suspects are from an “influential group”.

 

The survey was recently conducted by the Bangkok University Research Centre among 1,202 Thai respondents nationwide, who were asked for their opinions on justice procedures in Thailand.

 

The poll also found that 53.3 per cent of respondents thought the case against Red Bull heir Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya – who is wanted over a 2012 hit-and-run incident that left a Bangkok traffic policeman dead – wouldn’t see Vorayuth punished.

 

Fifty per cent of the respondents also believed the case against Dhammakaya Temple ex-abbot and founder Phra Dhammachayo would also be unable to bring the controversial monk to justice.

 

Asked which group of people would likely get away with a crime, 69.2 per cent of the respondents ranked “the group of influential figures”.

 

Also named were politicians (63.6 per cent), “high society” wealthy people (61.5 per cent), civil servants, police and military people (45.2 per cent) and monks (21.1 per cent). 

 

Over a third of respondents (37.6 per cent) believed the justice system contained loopholes that allowed wrongdoers to evade justice.

 

Another 28.6 per cent thought the practice of “double standards” or discrimination was in play, while 23.6 per cent said they thought available punishments were too lenient compared to the crimes.

 

Just 5.7 per cent believed that legal procedures were carried out justly and transparently, while 4.5 per cent said scapegoats had been used to take the blame for crimes.

 

Asked if they still felt confident in justice procedures, 71.7 per cent said their confidence was rather low while the rest said their confidence remained high.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30339149

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-02-19

[Thaiwrath]

No real surprise there then !

[Samui Bodoh]

41 minutes ago, webfact said:

Just 5.7 per cent believed that legal procedures were carried out justly and transparently

 

When only 5.7 percent of respondents of a justice survey believe that legal procedures are carried out justly and transparently (even in a Thai poll), then you do not have a system of justice.

 

 

Edited February 18, 2018 by Samui Bodoh
Lack of coffee

[z42]

16 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

When only 5.7 percent of respondents of a justice survey believe that legal procedures are carried out justly and transparently (even in a Thai poll), then you do not have a system of justice.

 

 

Who are this 5.7% though? You would have to be exceptionally stupid to argue that the system is fair to all here. There are just far too many cases in the public domain that show otherwise. Frightening

[Get Real]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Survey reveals little faith in Thai justice system

Fully understandable. Guess 5,7% is a high number, though.

[ezzra]

No surprise there... this is how the Thai society was meant to function for generations

now, the have and have not, the privileged, the entitled and the ones who are at the bottom

of the barrel of life....

[webfact]

Most poll respondents believe Premchai will escape unpunished

By Thai PBS

 

 

Most respondents to an opinion poll believe that Italian-Thai Development Plc boss Premchai Karnasuta will escape punishment.

 

Bangkok Poll gauged the opinions of 1,202 people from different walks of life about what they think of the justice system toward the offenders and 62.4 percent of them said they believe Premchai would finally not be punished for illegal hunting in Thung Yai Naresuan world heritage site early February.

 

The poll result shows that 53.3 percent of the respondents believe the Red Bull heir Vorayudh Yoovidhya who is now overseas would never be penalized for his reckless driving, causing the death of a traffic police officer in Bangkok’s Thonglor area several years ago.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/poll-respondents-believe-premchai-will-escape-unpunished/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-02-19

[webfact]

Public cynical about justice for ‘influential’ after Premchai case

By THE NATION

 

 

Although the investigation into construction tycoon Premchai Karnasuta’s alleged illegal hunting is ongoing, the public has little confidence that he will be punished if found guilty.

File photo:  Premchai Karnasuta

 

Nearly two-thirds, or 64.2 per cent, of people recently surveyed believe the case, in which Premchai and three others are accused of poaching and possessing wildlife at the Thung Yai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary in Kanchanaburi, will ultimately not see wrongdoers punished, because the suspects are from an “influential group”.

 

The survey was recently conducted by the Bangkok University Research Centre among 1,202 respondents nationwide, who were asked for their opinions on justice procedures in Thailand. 

 

The poll also found that 53.3 per cent of respondents thought the case against Red Bull heir Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya – who is wanted over a 2012 hit-and-run incident that left a Bangkok traffic policeman dead – would not see Vorayuth punished.

 

File photo: Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya

 

Fifty per cent of respondents also believed the case against Dhammakaya Temple ex-abbot and founder Phra Dhammachayo would also be unable to bring the controversial monk to justice.

 

File photo: Phra Dhammachayo

 

About 49 per cent believed no culprit would be punished over the suspicious death of teenage army cadet Pakapong Tanyakan at the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School in Nakhon Nayok.

 

 

Asked which group of people would likely get away with a crime, 69.2 per cent of the respondents ranked “the group of influential figures”. Also named were politicians (63.6 per cent); “high society” wealthy people (61.5 per cent); civil servants, police and military people (45.2 per cent); and monks (21.1 per cent). 

 

Over a third of respondents (37.6 per cent) believed the justice system contained loopholes that allowed wrongdoers to evade justice. Another 28.6 per cent thought the practice of “double standards” or discrimination was in play, while 23.6 per cent said they thought available punishments were too lenient compared to the crimes. Just 5.7 per cent believed that legal procedures were carried out justly and transparently, while 4.5 per cent said scapegoats had been used to take the blame for crimes.

 

Asked if they felt confident in justice procedures, 71.7 per cent said their confidence was low while the rest said confidence remained high.

 

Meanwhile, Counter Corruption Division deputy commander Pol Colonel Wacharin Pusit said Thung Yai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary chief Wichian Shinwong and his subordinates would testify before police on February 22 as part of the investigation into Wichian’s complaint over Premchai’s alleged act of attempting to bribe a state official to evade arrest. Wacharin said officers would later summon Premchai to give information over the allegation.

 

As for four elephant tusks seized from Premchai’s Bangkok house earlier this month, police Natural Resources and Environmental Crime Division commander Pol Maj-General Panya Pinsook said they were still waiting for the result of a DNA test by the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation.

 

The tests, due to be completed in three weeks, should be able to confirm whether the tusks were from domesticated elephants, which require a licence to own, or from wild elephants, which cannot be legally owned. Panya also said Premchai should bring documents to explain his ownership of the tusks to police without having to wait for the results to be finalised.

 

Premchai has denied poaching charges brought against him and three others, following their arrest on February 4 in the wildlife sanctuary’s western area. Rangers searched the camp and found guns and protected wildlife animal carcasses, including that of a black leopard, a Kalij pheasant and a barking deer. 

 

The suspects have since been granted bail.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30339167

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-02-19

[cornishcarlos]

52 minutes ago, z42 said:

Who are this 5.7% though?

 

The NCPO and family members...

[isaanbanhou]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Asked which group of people would likely get away with a crime, 69.2 per cent of the respondents ranked “the group of influential figures”.

 

Survey reveals little faith in Thai justice system

 

“the group of influential figures” have little faith in surveys so nothing will change

[mark131v]

45 minutes ago, webfact said:

Public cynical about justice for ‘influential’ after Premchai case

By THE NATION

 

 

Although the investigation into construction tycoon Premchai Karnasuta’s alleged illegal hunting is ongoing, the public has little confidence that he will be punished if found guilty.

File photo:  Premchai Karnasuta

 

Nearly two-thirds, or 64.2 per cent, of people recently surveyed believe the case, in which Premchai and three others are accused of poaching and possessing wildlife at the Thung Yai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary in Kanchanaburi, will ultimately not see wrongdoers punished, because the suspects are from an “influential group”.

 

The survey was recently conducted by the Bangkok University Research Centre among 1,202 respondents nationwide, who were asked for their opinions on justice procedures in Thailand. 

 

The poll also found that 53.3 per cent of respondents thought the case against Red Bull heir Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya – who is wanted over a 2012 hit-and-run incident that left a Bangkok traffic policeman dead – would not see Vorayuth punished.

 

File photo: Vorayuth “Boss” Yoovidhya

 

Fifty per cent of respondents also believed the case against Dhammakaya Temple ex-abbot and founder Phra Dhammachayo would also be unable to bring the controversial monk to justice.

 

File photo: Phra Dhammachayo

 

About 49 per cent believed no culprit would be punished over the suspicious death of teenage army cadet Pakapong Tanyakan at the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School in Nakhon Nayok.

 

 

Asked which group of people would likely get away with a crime, 69.2 per cent of the respondents ranked “the group of influential figures”. Also named were politicians (63.6 per cent); “high society” wealthy people (61.5 per cent); civil servants, police and military people (45.2 per cent); and monks (21.1 per cent). 

 

Over a third of respondents (37.6 per cent) believed the justice system contained loopholes that allowed wrongdoers to evade justice. Another 28.6 per cent thought the practice of “double standards” or discrimination was in play, while 23.6 per cent said they thought available punishments were too lenient compared to the crimes. Just 5.7 per cent believed that legal procedures were carried out justly and transparently, while 4.5 per cent said scapegoats had been used to take the blame for crimes.

 

Asked if they felt confident in justice procedures, 71.7 per cent said their confidence was low while the rest said confidence remained high.

 

Meanwhile, Counter Corruption Division deputy commander Pol Colonel Wacharin Pusit said Thung Yai Naresuan Wildlife Sanctuary chief Wichian Shinwong and his subordinates would testify before police on February 22 as part of the investigation into Wichian’s complaint over Premchai’s alleged act of attempting to bribe a state official to evade arrest. Wacharin said officers would later summon Premchai to give information over the allegation.

 

As for four elephant tusks seized from Premchai’s Bangkok house earlier this month, police Natural Resources and Environmental Crime Division commander Pol Maj-General Panya Pinsook said they were still waiting for the result of a DNA test by the Department of National Parks, Wildlife and Plant Conservation.

 

The tests, due to be completed in three weeks, should be able to confirm whether the tusks were from domesticated elephants, which require a licence to own, or from wild elephants, which cannot be legally owned. Panya also said Premchai should bring documents to explain his ownership of the tusks to police without having to wait for the results to be finalised.

 

Premchai has denied poaching charges brought against him and three others, following their arrest on February 4 in the wildlife sanctuary’s western area. Rangers searched the camp and found guns and protected wildlife animal carcasses, including that of a black leopard, a Kalij pheasant and a barking deer. 

 

The suspects have since been granted bail.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30339167

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-02-19

Mushroom pickers no problem......

 

Appears the biggest scumbags in LoS are very often also the untouchables, you know the good people, hi-so aka rich.....

 

It happens all over the world but here it ain't half blatant, then again if you have the entire justice (injustice) system in your pocket you can do whatever you want...

[Bob12345]

And thats why people get a gun, and carry it around in their car all day long.

When things go south, they bring their own "justice" as there is no real justice available in this country.

[irwinfc]

they may escape punishment, but they know as much as anyone that karma is a huge B1*@h! they'll get what they deserve sooner or later,  in this life or the next. 

[yellowboat]

This is why universal suffrage is so important.  These gaping shortcomings can be addressed.   Anything like this falls on deaf ears as it is not some positive economic report or a glowing food critique of street food.  Now practical matters like this are trivialized and trivial matters gets little p's attention.  It is hard to watch. 

[dinsdale]

Justice? Thailand? . Just love a good laugh on a Monday morning. The true figure is 100% of Thais know the whole system is corrupt.

[baboon]

2 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

When only 5.7 percent of respondents of a justice survey believe that legal procedures are carried out justly and transparently (even in a Thai poll), then you do not have a system of justice.

 

 

Nail on the head as usual. 5.7% isn't little faith, it is no faith.

[BwindiBoy]

No shit, Sherlock!

[Darcula]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Just 5.7 per cent believed that legal procedures were carried out justly and transparently

 

As many as 5.7% ? I have no faith in this survey.

 

[Emster23]

I wonder if 5.7% happens to be percentage of Thai population that "works" in justice system: the lawyers, judges, bag carriers, etc

[Dukeleto]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Over a third of respondents (37.6 per cent) believed the justice system contained loopholes that allowed wrongdoers to evade justice.

 

It is these loopholes which allow the brown envelope vacuum tube system to run smoothly amoung the influential who are responsible for closing such loopholes. Ergo don’t expect them closed anytime soon. Corruption and abuse is the very foundation of the Thai justice system I am sorry to say which is why many foreign criminals flock here as they know a well placed brown envelope could help secure a favourable outcome should they be apprehended. Indeed, many arrests and investigations are only undertaken to facilitate this process to keep the money flowing onwards and upwards! It’s really only the poorer Thais which end up taking the full brunt of the Thai justice system. I am surprised at how low the some of the percentages were. I would have thought 99.9% of Thai respondents would have had little or no faith in the system with the other 0.1% not actually understanding the question.

[djayz]

Finally people are opening their eyes and starting to talk about these, and other, issues. How much longer will/can they tolerate this cr*p? 

Edited February 19, 2018 by djayz

[wvavin]

Who still doubts the Thai justice system? LOL......

[YetAnother]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Just 5.7 per cent believed that legal procedures were carried out justly and transparently

about 1 in 20 people; what an indictment of the 'justice' system

[lvr181]

3 hours ago, z42 said:

Who are this 5.7% though? You would have to be exceptionally stupid to argue that the system is fair to all here. There are just far too many cases in the public domain that show otherwise. Frightening

5.7% = all of the 'elite class'? 

[sammieuk1]

Wonder if the same figures stack up for foreigners?

[impulse]

3 hours ago, z42 said:

Who are this 5.7% though? You would have to be exceptionally stupid to argue that the system is fair to all here. There are just far too many cases in the public domain that show otherwise. Frightening

 

In any survey, some folks won't understand the question, and others will think they're at risk of being tricked into incriminating themselves.

 

[RichardColeman]

Sure these guys will see justice after the next election :)

[worgeordie]

Which Thai justice system is this ,the one for the rich and influential,

or the one for the rest of us, have you noticed how whenever the rich

get caught doing something,even if caught red handed they plead

not guilty,or won't give their version until in court,because they know 

one way or another they can wriggle their way out of it,

 

While the rest give it up almost immediately,sometimes even when they are

innocent, as they know the judges are going to believe any police evidence,

and pleading guilty the sentence is halved.

regards worgeordie

Edited February 19, 2018 by worgeordie
correction

[darksidedog]

Personally, I have absolutely no faith in the wrongly named justice system here. I visit many people in the prisons who have run foul of the system. I currently visit 9 English and American prisoners. One of them is guilty. Three of them got stitched up in a sting, two are doing time for when their girlfriend claimed the drugs found were theirs not hers, (and as we all now, Thais don't lie), while the other three are so innocent it is a total disgrace they were ever even charged.

The whole damn lot of them from the cops, through the prosecutors to the lawyers and judges are just a total joke. There is no justice in Thailand.

[soalbundy]

3 hours ago, z42 said:

Who are this 5.7% though? You would have to be exceptionally stupid to argue that the system is fair to all here. There are just far too many cases in the public domain that show otherwise. Frightening

the influential 5.7%