Is raising children in Pattaya irresponsible parenting?

[dfdgfdfdgs]

Pattaya forum is a biased audience so please don't move it...

 

Grown adults can make their own mind up about whether Pattaya is for them or not.  But there is a proportion of foreign men who are turning up and having kids/families with ladies in Pattaya, or 'adopting' children from previous relationships.  Whilst those kids are still young I don't see any problem, but as they hit their teens, they are inevitably exposed (no matter how you much you try and shield them from it, you have no hope of hiding the sex trade in Pattaya) to a lot of sleaze and one might worry it could corrupt them from what society considers normal behaviour.

 

For example I wonder if living in Pattaya as a young female, you are more likely to engage in prostitution later in your life, compared to say, a young girl growing up in Bangkok?  I have no data at all, but I hypothesise that the percentages would be higher for the Pattaya area, if for no other reason then for the simple fact that you are surrounded by girls who are already prostitutes.  Any drug user will tell you that it was their friends who introduced them to drugs...

[johng]

In short ...no I dont think its irresponsible...
Many thousands of kids raised in Pattaya turn out "perfectly normal"

[dfdgfdfdgs]

I wonder if they begin to think of sex as more of a commodity.  Or maybe they just end up with a more liberal view about sex.  Or maybe there is no difference between what they think and what any other girl in the rest of Thailand thinks.

[Halfaboy]

Not many children are being raise at Walking Street or Soi Buakhao. On the Dark Site are beautiful villages with plenty of space to play.

 

I don't see the problem.

[torrzent]

2 hours ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

Pattaya forum is a biased audience so please don't move it..

That's the most biased statement I have ever heard!

[torrzent]

2 hours ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

Pattaya forum is a biased audience so please don't move it...

You seem to be confusing the real world with the cyberworld.  People "in" the Pattaya forum do not physically reside there and are capable of clicking on threads in any forum......how are you going to prevent these "biased" people from coming visiting your thread, especially if word gets out over in the Pattaya form about your derogatory comments!

Edited April 3, 2018 by torrzent

[dfdgfdfdgs]

Just now, torrzent said:

You seem to be confusing the real world with the cyberworld.

Well that's precisely the point isn't it.  This isn't real life and the Pattaya forum will have a strong bias of users in favour of people who live there.  Just as the Bangkok forum does and every other local forum.  I want a national opinion, not a localised opinion from mainly Pattaya residents.

 

You seem to be of the opinion that the word 'biased' always has negative connotations, which of course it doesn't.

[brewsterbudgen]

If the child is raised well why would it matter where they are raised? Very strange thread.

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[geriatrickid]

I don't think upscale or responsible people would want to raise their families in Pattaya. However, the reality is that there are many  large  resorts, hospitals, banks, government offices etc. with personnel who do have families. They can't very well abandon the family and they do need to work. I would expect that these tens of thousands of people are decent folks and that they don't have anything to do with the whoring and debauchery that we identify with Pattaya.  It's like the residents of Amsterdam. They have the laughable redllight district and  mugging zone near the train station. Normal well adjusted residents avoid it.

[Jonah Tenner]

1 hour ago, brewsterbudgen said:

If the child is raised well why would it matter where they are raised? Very strange thread.
 

The OP is showing off his prejudices.

[i claudius]

Our son has been raised here his teenage years.he went to a good school then university and now has a very good career. We dont bring our kids up in soi 6 . What a silly thread.

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[starky]

I wouldn't raise my kids there and you don't have to wait till they are in their teens they will have a pretty firm grasp of what is going on around them long before that. To some extent I suppose it depends on what you define as Pattaya and as a poster said if they spent the majority of their formative years on the dark side and not exposed to it I'm sure they will be fine. I used to wonder what the <deleted> people were thinking when I saw families with prams down at walking Street at night so the idea of raising a child there is abhorrent to me. Having said that I am sure someone will be along soon to tell me what a happy, safe, wholesome environment Pattaya is within to raise children.

[chrisinth]

6 hours ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

For example I wonder if living in Pattaya as a young female, you are more likely to engage in prostitution later in your life, compared to say, a young girl growing up in Bangkok?  I have no data at all, but I hypothesise that the percentages would be higher for the Pattaya area, if for no other reason then for the simple fact that you are surrounded by girls who are already prostitutes.

Wonderful example. Up here in Phitsanulok my son and daughter were surrounded by farmers (and their wives)throughout their growing up years. Strangely, neither of them went down that road.

 

Both in their 20's now and still resisting. Although the son did get married, I reckon that might be due to all the married couples up here, so you may have a point..................

Edited April 3, 2018 by chrisinth

[saakura]

Many foreigners living in Pattaya are themselves unhinged or absconding criminals.

[The manic]

Ludicrous proposition.  Plain stupid.  

[torrzent]

3 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

I don't think upscale or responsible people would want to raise their families in Pattaya. However, the reality is that there are many  large  resorts, hospitals, banks, government offices etc. with personnel who do have families. They can't very well abandon the family and they do need to work. I would expect that these tens of thousands of people are decent folks and that they don't have anything to do with the whoring and debauchery that we identify with Pattaya.  It's like the residents of Amsterdam. They have the laughable redllight district and  mugging zone near the train station. Normal well adjusted residents avoid it.

there are also lots of "lowscale" responsible people too

[darksidedog]

A number of Off Topic Bickering posts have been deleted. This whole thread is on very thin ice.

While I am here I will mention that I live here. My youngster is 17, is well aware of what goes on in town and understands such is life.

Don't for a second think what happens in an industry largely employing out of province girls is unknown to parents and kids here.

I believe kids here are more aware of the dangers, and less likely to fall victim, than innocents from Udon Thani and the like, who come seeking their fortune.

I don't care if you disagree with my opinion, just keep it polite, OK?

 

[EVENKEEL]

We live an hour south of Pattaya, our 6 yr old loves Harbor land in Pattaya which is a fun way to spend the afternoon and they have a few excellent places to eat. Haven't been to the Aquarium yet which I'm looking forward to. The Water Slide is another attraction I've been promising the little one. Their school had a fieldtrip to Nong Nooch garden in Pattaya and she loved it. So much fun to be had in Pattaya for the kids. Just stay away from the hootchy kootchy. Not hard.

Edited April 3, 2018 by EVENKEEL

[jacko45k]

Good parenting can be achieved anywhere.

Letting the kids run amok wherever will likely produce problems, believing there are less bad influences in say Bangkok than Pattaya is naive.

[1FinickyOne]

I would not have wanted my kid to even see Pattaya, and especially at an early age... young children are impressionable... sure, as a young teen she knows about such things but I am glad she prefers school and science. 

[Benmart]

15 hours ago, torrzent said:

You seem to be confusing the real world with the cyberworld.  People "in" the Pattaya forum do not physically reside there and are capable of clicking on threads in any forum......how are you going to prevent these "biased" people from coming visiting your thread, especially if word gets out over in the Pattaya form about your derogatory comments!

I live in Pattaya full-time. I agree with your comments.

[Blackheart1916]

If, in a city the size of Pattaya, you can't manage to keep your kids away from Soi 6/WS/Bukhao et al, you are not fit to be a parent.

[uffe123]

Well, they will certainly have an early sex education.

[theguyfromanotherforum]

I wouldn't raise my dog in Pattaya 

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[smotherb]

I believe that is a question which leaves either answer untenable. I don't think it is the city in which you raise your children, but how you raise them. 

[reenatinnakor]

What a stupid trolling question... Why is it even allowed? It's obvious he's trolling. There's pornography on the internet so do you ban your kids from the internet?

Our 2 girls grown up in Pattaya since 10 years old, they went to a good school and have parents that teach them that not everyone is as fortunate as they are. If anything when we're riding thru Buakhao to get to Central they can see what life is like if you don't try to get an education. If anything girls growing up in Pattaya will be more motivated to not be those girls.

And like yourself I don't have any data, but I thought most of the bar girls in Pattaya are from poorer rural areas? So growing up in Pattaya has nothing to do with it.

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[Peterw42]

Yes, its Sodom and Gomorrah, there are naked hookers pole dancing in 7/11, ping pong shows at the bank, short time rooms above all the government offices. Its very hard to shield the children from it, in fact they have pole-dancing classes at school.

What a ridiculous ignorant thread and comments. what is the difference between Pattaya or any other place that ex-pats live, There are bars and hooker areas everywhere in Thailand, and like Pattaya, its a couple of sois, WS etc.

 

And guess what, people live their whole lives here and never go near the bars and hookers.

[starky]

10 hours ago, darksidedog said:

A number of Off Topic Bickering posts have been deleted. This whole thread is on very thin ice.

While I am here I will mention that I live here. My youngster is 17, is well aware of what goes on in town and understands such is life.

Don't for a second think what happens in an industry largely employing out of province girls is unknown to parents and kids here.

I believe kids here are more aware of the dangers, and less likely to fall victim, than innocents from Udon Thani and the like, who come seeking their fortune.

I don't care if you disagree with my opinion, just keep it polite, OK?

 

I don't think innocents, by which I assume you mean adults, coming to Pattaya to make their fortune has any relevance. Central Pattaya from the roundabout to the end of walking street, I think it is not unfair to say, is one massive brothel. So it's not about whether your kids are aware of it or not but why one would choose to raise children there and expose them to that environment? Thai families that work there have far fewer choices than those foreigners  who choose to reside there. I had my Pattaya days and thoroughly enjoyed them. Two things I knew early on were one, I knew I could never live there and two I could never marry a hooker. I mean I guess that some pickled foreigner that marries a bar girl and knocks out a couple of tin lids really doesn't care much about where his kids are raised. But how could a caring, responsible parent, in good faith, want to raise a child anywhere near the joint? I realise that you wouldn't be hanging around in beer bars and such with your children. Though I have seen that too. But kids aren't stupid do they really need to see all that when they are growing up?

[starky]

7 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Yes, its Sodom and Gomorrah, there are naked hookers pole dancing in 7/11, ping pong shows at the bank, short time rooms above all the government offices. Its very hard to shield the children from it, in fact they have pole-dancing classes at school.

What a ridiculous ignorant thread and comments. what is the difference between Pattaya or any other place that ex-pats live, There are bars and hooker areas everywhere in Thailand, and like Pattaya, its a couple of sois, WS etc.

 

And guess what, people live their whole lives here and never go near the bars and hookers.

Just a couple of sois eh? Now that is a ridiculous comment