Keeping the bad guys out! Thais spending 2.1 BILLION baht on biometrics

 

 

Thai immigration hope by spending 2.1 billion baht on biometric technology they will be able to keep the bad guys out of Thailand. 

 

Too many on blacklists have been changing their names and passports and sneaking back into the Land of Smiles. 

 

Now those days may be gone with the 2000 new facial recognition and fingerprint analysis machines that will replace old technology at 170 sea, land and airport borders nationwide. 

 

The machines will also find their way into immigration offices. 

 

Yesterday at Phuket International Airport the press were invited by Lt-Gen Tinaphat Phumarin and many police and immigration bigwigs for a demonstration of the fancy new tech. 

 

They were joined by a representative of the private company responsible for the machines - Mr Gunther Mull of Dermalog, an award winning German company. 

 

The machines are expecting to be up and running by July 1st. 

 

However Thaivisa notes that the project has already been beset by delays.

 

According to contracts if there are any further delays past July 1st the Thais can charge the company 4 million baht a day for lateness in completing the contract. 

 

Source: Daily News

 

 

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3 minutes ago, webfact said:

spending 2.1 billion baht on biometric technology

I wonder what the actual cost is ?

2.1 billion baht would be the 'budget' for the equipment, with many pockets filled too.

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

 

According to contracts if there are any further delays past July 1st the Thais can charge the company 4 million baht a day for lateness in completing the contract. 

And if works they will pay the company on July 2nd.

Maybe, hopefully.

Always courageous to do business with Thai government agencies.

What effect will it have for dual nationals (not criminal) coming back with the other passport to beat the x-times entry rules?

7 minutes ago, webfact said:

 

The machines are expecting to be up and running by July 1st. 

Were gambling allowed I would stake my shirt on it not being ready anywhere near that date.  And anything else I had left would go on there being serious cost over runs too. Some people will be getting very rich out of this overpriced introduction I am sure.

keeping the bad guys out hey? perhaps turn the machines 180degrees then?

Talking about keeping the bad guys out must be very hard for this junta keeping a strait face even harder????

19 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

Were gambling allowed I would stake my shirt on it not being ready anywhere near that date.  And anything else I had left would go on there being serious cost over runs too. Some people will be getting very rich out of this overpriced introduction I am sure.

that happens any time the government buys any big machinery (military, IMO computers, police cars and so forth) a police guy living not far from my place got a new bike 7-8 months ago, he never used it, still on/under his carport full of dust

What chance have they got to be able to operate it? years after introducing 90 day online report is still works only sometimes, for some people using restricted software. Like all 'improvements' to immigration here it will only make the waits longer.

34 minutes ago, webfact said:

Keeping the bad guys out!

 

I think it will keep more then just the bad guys out..

Who in his right mind will want to give his Biometrics to a military regime?

I hope a different software company was hired to implement the biometric equipment... and not the guys that developed the online TM47 "system"

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I would be curious to see if they know how to use such a system. I wonder what will happen to the few unfortunate folks that physically can't get their fingerprint read.

It would not be very surprising if they just ditch it after a brilliant local engineering intern redesign the system to make it unusable. Maybe the BOI will have good insight on this problem.

3 minutes ago, yokat said:

I wonder what will happen to the few unfortunate folks that physically can't get their fingerprint read.

The same as happens in the US or Singapore, both of which already take fingerprints, I would imagine.  The accompanying news story already says it's the same system as used in Singapore

Hah I'll  fool em, Im gouging out my eyes and cutting off  my fingertips, right after breaking my nose and offsetting it.

8 minutes ago, gunderhill said:

Hah I'll  fool em, Im gouging out my eyes and cutting off  my fingertips, right after breaking my nose and offsetting it.

All that to become a better looking hansum man eh??

32 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

that happens any time the government buys any big machinery (military, IMO computers, police cars and so forth)

Maybe they are trying to keep up with the inflated prices the USA (& other EC countries!) government pays its suppliers, NASA is supposed to be one of the biggest offenders in this arena!

And what is the real criteria based on for not letting someone back in? As in conviction here for anything? Or a conviction with jailtime? Late TM30 or numerous late 90 day check ins?

 

Conviction in the persons own country? Conviction and jail time in the persons own country?

 

What do they exactly consider a bad guy?

Oh dear- progress and all people can do is knock it.

 

What a sad life some lead. 

With a bit of luck this will necessitate an upgrade to the overall Immigration systems, making the 90 day and Online address reporting service more reliable. I believe that they still manually input the info from TM6 cards as well. Let's see.

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Thais spending 2.1 BILLION baht on biometrics

 

Who cares if it works? The incredibly lucrative commissions and highly profitable backhanders are all that really matter.

 

 

1 hour ago, Psimbo said:

Oh dear- progress and all people can do is knock it.

 

What a sad life some lead. 

This sort of progress can be totally twisted against some harmless person who did nothing so wrong. Sort of works that way here.

The technology is way above their heads.when these machines go wrong they will cause nothing but headaches and longer queues.

4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

I wonder what the actual cost is ?

2.1 billion baht would be the 'budget' for the equipment, with many pockets filled too.

2,100,000,000 divide by 

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The 2000 new facial recognition and fingerprint analysis machines

and you get a good idea.. 

They could save a big part of this money, by just asking a police clearing from the foreigners  by entering the country , especially for visa exempt or visa on arrival  ( as a "on the run one" would use this more than a visa ), Police clearance (or other naming ) is free online to obtain in my E.U. country at short notice 

They have some up and already running in bangkok, I arrived on the 4 may . They took prints of both hands and thumbs, 

Thailand used to spend money on marketing for getting foreigners coming in but nowadays they are spending that money for keeping foreigners out.

Something changed.

so 1.000.000 per machine, installed by the company

 

or 50.000 per machine and 950.000 for the helping HANDS

1 minute ago, Destiny1990 said:

Thailand used to spend money on marketing for getting foreigners in but nowadays they are spending big money for keeping foreigners out.

Something changed.

Normal behavior if you see the wrong guest's are coming 

7 minutes ago, david555 said:

Normal behavior if you see the wrong guest's are coming 

You are referring about yourself I assume otherwise i have no clue what wrong guest you’re talking about.

3 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

You are referring about yourself I assume otherwise i have no clue what wrong guest you’re talking about.

So no wrong guest's ….? How many taken already last years since the computers become more accurate in using them 

 

Shall I show you my police rapport ...but blanket the name …., I have it do you ?