Bathroom build and repaint cost, is this expensive ?

[steven100]

Hi all,

I'm having a new bathroom constructed and repaint of a wooden bungalow and I'm just having a hard time accepting the price ... but in the end I guess i will end up paying. Bathroom is approx 3m x 2m so it's not huge ... all costs 32,000 ... 15,000 .... 20,000

 

Rebuild sub structure, take out timber support, lower & replace with steel channels.

Supply and Install floor slab material, supply and install wall plate material, apply 2-layer waterproof plaster.

Install only floor tiles as selected ( install only, not supplied )  Install only wall tiles as selected ( install only, not supplied )

Install only wash basin, all sanitary tapeware, mirror, install only toilet, install only shower heater and tapeware ( all items install only )

Supply and install all pipework and plumbing for the above.

Install only shower barrier ( 18 glass blocks )

Supply and install double french doors with frosted glass top half.

 

As above ... cost 32,000 baht

 

Inside 32 sqm approx : sand back all inside walls, floor etc .... repaint walls and floor as color selected. Seal all floor gaps before apply of gloss lacquer. paint supplied by me.

 

As above ...  cost 15,000 baht

 

Outside 6.5m x 5.5m : Check balcony sub structure and replace some timber supports to make level.

sand back all timber external, repaint color as selected. Replace all balcony timber with new and repaint ( paint supplied ) as selected color. Replace any wood with new as needed. Change existing wooden stairs from 5 steps to 3 steps and paint.

 

As above .... cost 20,000 baht

 

I mean there's alot of work to do to get it back to looking brand new again and it would be 3x that price in Australia so am I penny pinching too much ?

 

Is the price acceptable  ??

 

Thanks.

 

 

[gk10002000]

For comparison, my sister just got gouged (and I had to contribute some bucks).  Her small bathroom had the tub removed, tile installed, new glass door, some paint.  They did not even replace or upgrade the sink!  She thinks she got a bargain from her neighber for $5,000 USD!  Jesus Christ, I could do that in a few weekends.   So $5000 in the US.  I think $1,000 equivalent in Thailand doesn't sound bad.

[sherwood]

Sounds about right to me.

A fair bit of work involved for the price.

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

Rebuild sub structure, take out timber support, lower & replace with steel channels.

Supply and Install floor slab material, supply and install wall plate material, apply 2-layer waterproof plaster.

Install only floor tiles as selected ( install only, not supplied )  Install only wall tiles as selected ( install only, not supplied )

Install only wash basin, all sanitary tapeware, mirror, install only toilet, install only shower heater and tapeware ( all items install only )

Supply and install all pipework and plumbing for the above.

Install only shower barrier ( 18 glass blocks )

Supply and install double french doors with frosted glass top half.

Can give a rough comparison from recent work.

Rebuild structure, why not cut down wood & reuse can't say cost without looking. 

Install floor slab material, what in cement. 1 day 1 man lab.

2-layer waterproof plaster 80 bht per m2 lab.

Install floor tiles 60 bht m2 lab.

Install wall tiles 80 bht m2 lab.
Install wash basin, mirror, toilet, shower heater, all pipework plumbing & accessories.  Our man to do that took 1 day lab.

Shower barrier ( 18 glass blocks ) say half day lab.
Supply and install double french doors with frosted glass top half, don't know what they will charge you for them.  1 days lab say 2 men to install.

 

 

 

 

[Psimbo]

A lot depends on your location and who you know- it's difficult to assess otherwise. If you source the materials from Thaiwatsuda or a big place you will pay the sticker price- deal with a local hardware shop and you may get 'Farang Tax'. Are you doing this with a wife/gf who can liase with the builder or going it a lone. There are a lot of factors to consider, including how upmarket you want to go with materials. The guy who did a blog about building a house in Issan has some interesting comments on construction.

Edited June 5, 2019 by Psimbo

[steven100]

3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Can give a rough comparison from recent work.

Rebuild structure, why not cut down wood & reuse can't say cost without looking. 

Install floor slab material, what in cement. 1 day 1 man lab.

2-layer waterproof plaster 80 bht per m2 lab.

Install floor tiles 60 bht m2 lab.

Install wall tiles 80 bht m2 lab.
Install wash basin, mirror, toilet, shower heater, all pipework plumbing & accessories.  Our man to do that took 1 day lab.

Shower barrier ( 18 glass blocks ) say half day lab.
Supply and install double french doors with frosted glass top half, don't know what they will charge you for them.  1 days lab say 2 men to install.

 

 

 

 

I think those comparisons aren't realistic as it seems yours cost is 1,800 baht + the below waterproof and tiling rates.

 

The man hours you've compared aren't even close in this case, cannot 1 day 1 man labour, impossible.

Just not even close, I'm taking 32,000 baht because it's rebuild the sub floor / remove timber supports and replace with steel, new floor, waterproof wall plaster etc ...

2-layer waterproof plaster 80 bht per m2 lab.

Install floor tiles 60 bht m2 lab.

Install wall tiles 80 bht m2 lab.

[steven100]

8 minutes ago, Psimbo said:

A lot depends on your location and who you know- it's difficult to assess otherwise. If you source the materials from Thaiwatsuda or a big place you will pay the sticker price- deal with a local hardware shop and you may get 'Farang Tax'. Are you doing this with a wife/gf who can liase with the builder or going it a lone. There are a lot of factors to consider, including how upmarket you want to go with materials. The guy who did a blog about building a house in Issan has some interesting comments on construction.

I know what your saying ....

It's been done by a local guy who does work around different villages, in fact he's doing a couple of bungalows for a resort up the road.

Anyway, I bought the bathroom furniture / sanitary from Thaiwatsadu and homepro and his price is for the install of a new bathroom, rebuild sub floor, tiling, painting inside and out, replace balcony timber deck, level deck under floor, new steps. 

He travels a fair distance to our place and there's a lot of work in getting all this done imo.

Edited June 5, 2019 by steven100

[david555]

4 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

For comparison, my sister just got gouged (and I had to contribute some bucks).  Her small bathroom had the tub removed, tile installed, new glass door, some paint.  They did not even replace or upgrade the sink!  She thinks she got a bargain from her neighber for $5,000 USD!  Jesus Christ, I could do that in a few weekends.   So $5000 in the US.  I think $1,000 equivalent in Thailand doesn't sound bad.

"I think $1,000 equivalent in Thailand doesn't sound bad."

 

Slavery is abolished in Thailand a long time ago ….

(I took the $ sign for Baht as no baht sign on most keyboards ), if really USD ? I take back my comment …)

Edited June 5, 2019 by david555

[steven100]

13 minutes ago, david555 said:

"I think $1,000 equivalent in Thailand doesn't sound bad."

 

Slavery is abolished in Thailand a long time ago ….

(I took the $ sign for Baht as no baht sign on most keyboards ), if really USD ? I take back my comment …)

now I'm really confused on what you posted, are you saying the price is ok ?

 

....  gk10002000 is saying that the cost being 32,000 baht is not so bad as it's equivalent to around $1,000  USD .

 

That's what I make of his original post .

[david555]

1 minute ago, steven100 said:

now I'm really confused on what you posted, are you saying the price is ok ?

 

....  gk10002000 is saying that the cost being 32,000 baht is not so bad as it's equivalent to around $1,000  USD .

 

That's what I make of his original post .

I think the 32000 baht are reasonable for quit a job , baht stays baht ,only our exchange is hurting us now heavily , my mistake was that in first I took the 1000$ as 1000 baht …. but now I am full awake and had my coffee...

Good luck with the works 

[Kwasaki]

26 minutes ago, steven100 said:

I think those comparisons aren't realistic as it seems yours cost is 1,800 baht + the below waterproof and tiling rates.

 

The man hours you've compared aren't even close in this case, cannot 1 day 1 man labour, impossible.

Just not even close, I'm taking 32,000 baht because it's rebuild the sub floor / remove timber supports and replace with steel, new floor, waterproof wall plaster etc ...

2-layer waterproof plaster 80 bht per m2 lab.

Install floor tiles 60 bht m2 lab.

Install wall tiles 80 bht m2 lab.

Well as I stated without seeing the work required it's hard to price just trying to help with some prices we paid.

You think those comparisons aren't realistic well OK the prices are from resents works, we can get labour for 200-500 per day 1 person here, depends where your live I would say.  

[david555]

14 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well as I stated without seeing the work required it's hard to price just trying to help with some prices we paid.

You think those comparisons aren't realistic well OK the prices are from resents works, we can get labour for 200-500 per day 1 person here, depends where your live I would say.  

Example , bought a water heather at Home Works Pattaya and let install ( drill 2 holes + plug and connect to Elec. Board 1.5meter cable ) fix price was 800 baht .

[steven100]

6 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

get labour for 200-500 per day 1 person here, depends where your live I would say.  

yeah right, it's difficult to say but I expect the builder is about 400/day and labourer 300.... he has to travel a fair distance so he'll be adding probably 150 on top each day. It's hard to get anyone near home, there's no one who can really do the job here. I may be paying on the high side but I don't have a choice as I just want it done. Say 2 guys 400+300+150 x 3-4 weeks ( 24 days ) = 20,400 + material. The thing with Thailand is they know it's farang so 30% on top.

The whole job is 67,000 ...  but it will be brand new again so I have to accept that. Thats only $3,000 AUD.

 

[Kwasaki]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Example , bought a water heather at Home Works Pattaya and let install ( drill 2 holes + plug and connect to Elec. Board 1.5meter cable ) fix price was 800 baht .

Yeah it's good to get price comparisons with different areas.

A water heater is the kind of work I do myself.

I would of fitted a air-con we bought but for 500 baht I just watched. ????

[BritManToo]

6 hours ago, steven100 said:

I mean there's alot of work to do to get it back to looking brand new again and it would be 3x that price in Australia so am I penny pinching too much ?

Way too much.

500bht/person/day is more than enough.

[Kwasaki]

10 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Say 2 guys 400+300+150 x 3-4 weeks ( 24 days ) = 20,400 + material. The thing with Thailand is they know it's farang so 30% on top.

Yeah well your thinking it though in a good way and day lab for us would 900 bht a day for our builder and 1 labourer we use but he will work on a price m2 & lineal metre price as well which we prefer.

Goodluck with your project.

 

 

[1FinickyOne]

I was quoted 30,000 baht to take out tub and re-do bathroom... 

[steven100]

34 minutes ago, kenk24 said:

I was quoted 30,000 baht to take out tub and re-do bathroom... 

ok ... so that's near my 32,000 ... is that to completely rebuild and make new ? ... as in new tiles, new wash basin, new shower  ?? 

I'm just trying to get an idea if 32,000 is ok ... tks

[1FinickyOne]

7 minutes ago, steven100 said:

ok ... so that's near my 32,000 ... is that to completely rebuild and make new ? ... as in new tiles, new wash basin, new shower  ?? 

I'm just trying to get an idea if 32,000 is ok ... tks

It is taking out bathtub... and I was going to go for a brushed cement industrial style look... after that, we didn't really talk about details - not sure what it includes... 

 

Anybody ever put in a small sauna in the bathroom? It is not a big bathroom but if I take out the tub would there be room for half of that to be a shower and half for a sauna? 

[Thongkorn]

Work out  the cost usual 600 baht a day for skilled workman,

[SOTIRIOS]

...it's called....'sticking it to the stickler'.....

 

...price is directly proportional to the verbiage.....

[shaurene]

Would help if you tell us where your house is. We may be able to help. Some of us could be close to you and know people.

[ujayujay]

Reasonable Price.

[steven100]

1 hour ago, shaurene said:

Would help if you tell us where your house is. We may be able to help. Some of us could be close to you and know people.

Outside Phitsanulok region ...  work is 40% done already.

[steven100]

7 minutes ago, ujayujay said:

Reasonable Price.

thank's Ujay, so 30,000k is reasonable for a complete new bathroom inc' sub floor rebuild in steel.

[paulbrow]

Prices don't seem out of line to me. Fairly reasonable in fact. I've been here most of the last 24 years, so have a bit of experience...

[connda]

That's about right.  Watch the work though.  We had a lot of construction done on our land but it can often be shoddy work.  If it isn't done right, get involved and require that its done right.  You'll need to check everyday.  And remember - labor costs are dirt cheap.  Also, if you are replacing timbers with wood, really check the wood for termites.  I'd suggest to go with a metal support structure instead.
If you think you're being gouged, do this mental gymnastics.  Convert the prices quoted to your own currency, then calculate the costs for the same work in your home country including licenses, fees, easements, assessments, application costs, inspection cost, filing fees etc, then compare the two, and then convert back to Thai baht.
You'll probably be happy with the prices quoted! 

[GreasyFingers]

We had our house repainted before moving in. The painters were 400 per day (would have to look up the invoices for the full price).

I would be happy with the prices you were quoted. We also had an awning added and quotes varied from 4500 to 19000.

[mogandave]

Seems pretty reasonable to me, but it all depends on the quality of work.

I find it hilarious that people would round up a bunch of grunt-labor at ฿200 a day and turn them loose in their with buckets of paint....

[Andycoops]

On 6/5/2019 at 9:54 AM, steven100 said:

I know what your saying ....

It's been done by a local guy who does work around different villages, in fact he's doing a couple of bungalows for a resort up the road.

Anyway, I bought the bathroom furniture / sanitary from Thaiwatsadu and homepro and his price is for the install of a new bathroom, rebuild sub floor, tiling, painting inside and out, replace balcony timber deck, level deck under floor, new steps. 

He travels a fair distance to our place and there's a lot of work in getting all this done imo.

If those quotes are basically for labour only then in my opinion way over the top.