2 hours ago, david555 said:

(And here a warming up for the Brexit boys.... )

 

Daniel Boffey in Brussels

Tue 18 Feb 2020 13.36 GMT

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/uk-brexit-negotiator-britain-eu-different-planets

UK Brexit negotiator accused of treating Britain and EU as 'two different planets'

Verhofstadt says it would be a ‘hell of a job’ to achieve success using David Frost’s approach

 

 

Boris Johnson’s chief Brexit negotiator has been accused of treating the EU and the UK as if they are “living on two different planets” after vowing to break all regulatory ties with Brussels.

Guy Verhofstadt, the former Belgian prime minister who has led the European parliament’s approach to Brexit, said it would be a “hell of a job” to secure a successful outcome from the negotiation using the British approach.

“It’s not a good thing that we continue to discuss the future relationship as if the UK and Europe are living on two different planets because the UK market and the market are so close to each other – physically, geographically,” Verhofstadt told reporters during a joint press conference with Sadiq Khan. “And so, these things are so intense that we have to look at it in a little bit of a different way than to simply say, this is a pure free trade deal.”

 

 

 

Who gives flying fig what Toofy Verhofstadt says?

35 minutes ago, david555 said:

Oh No ?  delicious  Eating it regularly and enjoying it …...having my cake and eating it ???? (dixit PM May...)

Pattaya made 

dicks it lol

29 minutes ago, david555 said:

Than shift your island also in that geographic location …. that could help to get the same …. not just beside our trade … ???????????? 

We shifted it already  -  out of your adorable EU!

1 hour ago, david555 said:

Than shift your island also in that geographic location …. that could help to get the same …. not just beside our trade … ???????????? 

Ahhh...so you are scared of what the 'little' UK can achieve as your competitor. Insecurity. That explains it ????

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Ahhh...so you are scared of what the 'little' UK can achieve as your competitor. Insecurity. That explains it ????

scared  is not the word ....

But not accepting ruining correct settings of quality and workers rights as a third country desperate to maintain themself as a loner ....????

2 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Ahhh...so you are scared of what the 'little' UK can achieve as your competitor. Insecurity. That explains it ????

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/18/uk-brexit-negotiator-britain-eu-different-planets

Michel Barnier rejects UK call for Canada-style trade deal

EU officials rubbish No 10 claims that bloc is trying to win back Parthenon marbles for Athens

 

Michel Barnier has rejected British demands for a Canada-style trade deal that would free the UK from EU rules as he made a thinly-veiled warning to Boris Johnson not to break his word.

 

Speaking in response to a landmark speech by David Frost, Britain’s Brexit negotiator, Barnier said such an offer was not on the table and noted that the prime minister had agreed only six months ago to stick to the EU’s state aid rules and current social and environmental regulations after the transition period.

You got your country back woohoo, best of luck to you all you poms from an aussie.

6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

Who is asking the EU to change their rules exactly? Does the EU insist that other non-EU countries such as Canada and Japan follow EU rules, and abide by ECJ rulings? 

The UK are asking to be treated just like other non-EU countries. 

 

And '"English exceptionalism"...please change the record ????

The EU has said if you want to remain in the single market and customs union then yes you have to abide by ECJ rulings. Canada and Japan are not in the single market and customs union. You are comparing apples with oranges. Deliberately so I think.

 

If you object to the term English exceptionalism then I shall stop using it and call it what it really is.

English nationalism.  

9 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

The EU has said if you want to remain in the single market and customs union then yes you have to abide by ECJ rulings. Canada and Japan are not in the single market and customs union. You are comparing apples with oranges. Deliberately so I think.

 

If you object to the term English exceptionalism then I shall stop using it and call it what it really is.

English nationalism.  

Ah. Jocks are part of leaving ! You couldn't join EU even if independent. Under the SNp it's economy has performed so bad ! 

1 minute ago, pixelaoffy said:

Ah. Jocks are part of leaving ! You couldn't join EU even if independent. Under the SNp it's economy has performed so bad ! 

Whats that got to do with what I posted?

Deflection eh? Its the Brexiteer way.

There may be some good news for the Brexiteers soon, poor souls.

Boris's secret trade talks'

 

5 hours ago, deeks said:

You got your country back woohoo, best of luck to you all you poms from an aussie.

Fair dinkum cobber.

3 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

The EU has said if you want to remain in the single market and customs union then yes you have to abide by ECJ rulings. Canada and Japan are not in the single market and customs union. You are comparing apples with oranges. Deliberately so I think.

 

If you object to the term English exceptionalism then I shall stop using it and call it what it really is.

English nationalism.  

It's the whole of UK which, like it or not, includes that noisy squeaky little bit at the top that keeps hijacking these boards from Thailand and getting nowhere.

 

You lost. Get over it.

8 minutes ago, evadgib said:

It's the whole of UK which, like it or not, includes that noisy squeaky little bit at the top that keeps hijacking these boards from Thailand and getting nowhere.

 

You lost. Get over it.

"You lost. Get over it."   

 

O.K.

but you don't go get the things as before, now  out of the club as 3th country  .....also get over that ????

 

Stop whining for such deal "  WTO kangaroo deal" is you granted ...

1 hour ago, david555 said:

O.K.

but you don't go get the things as before, now  out of the club as 3th country  .....also get over that

And neither will the Dutch, French and Spanish who have raped the UK waters. Soon to stop.

 

The gravy train is over.

As for out of the club great. We never really felt part of your federalised Europe.

 

You can keep your euro and also enjoy the coming economic turbulence coming your way. Not to mention other EU members saying we want out.

2 hours ago, evadgib said:

It's the whole of UK which, like it or not, includes that noisy squeaky little bit at the top that keeps hijacking these boards from Thailand and getting nowhere.

 

You lost. Get over it.

Scotland voted against Brexit.

4 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

And neither will the Dutch, French and Spanish who have raped the UK waters. Soon to stop.

 

The gravy train is over.

As for out of the club great. We never really felt part of your federalised Europe.

 

You can keep your euro and also enjoy the coming economic turbulence coming your way. Not to mention other EU members saying we want out.

Which other EU members want out?

4 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

And neither will the Dutch, French and Spanish who have raped the UK waters. Soon to stop.

 

The gravy train is over.

As for out of the club great. We never really felt part of your federalised Europe.

 

You can keep your euro and also enjoy the coming economic turbulence coming your way. Not to mention other EU members saying we want out.

Good you are on the way of understanding ....acceptance shall follow …. no doubt ! 

13 hours ago, david555 said:

O.K. you still don't get it …..????  short time shall tell you the different approach result 

Actually it is you who doesn't seem to get it. When Teresa May was PM the EU thought she was a joke and they walked all over her.

 

Now Boris is a positive leader and has said that we will leave finally 31 December this year with or without a deal, the EU is slowly waking up to the fact that the UK won't be bullied into doing what the EU wants any more.

 

As I said in an earlier post you and the few like you on TVF still cannot accept that the majority of the voters in the UK voted to leave the EU and the last election added more people wanting to leave.

 

It was a democratic vote both times yet you don't seem to understand or accept that part of democracy.

 

TBH I am bored with your comments and replies so I shall put you on my ignore list. It is a shame because you do make some good posts quite often.

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

Actually it is you who doesn't seem to get it. When Teresa May was PM the EU thought she was a joke and they walked all over her.

 

Now Boris is a positive leader and has said that we will leave finally 31 December this year with or without a deal, the EU is slowly waking up to the fact that the UK won't be bullied into doing what the EU wants any more.

 

As I said in an earlier post you and the few like you on TVF still cannot accept that the majority of the voters in the UK voted to leave the EU and the last election added more people wanting to leave.

 

It was a democratic vote both times yet you don't seem to understand or accept that part of democracy.

 

TBH I am bored with your comments and replies so I shall put you on my ignore list. It is a shame because you do make some good posts quite often.

You see that way  we see different way , that is why it shall be Boris no deal aka Kangaroo deal 

cheers 

18 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Actually it is you who doesn't seem to get it. When Teresa May was PM the EU thought she was a joke and they walked all over her.

 

Now Boris is a positive leader and has said that we will leave finally 31 December this year with or without a deal, the EU is slowly waking up to the fact that the UK won't be bullied into doing what the EU wants any more.

 

As I said in an earlier post you and the few like you on TVF still cannot accept that the majority of the voters in the UK voted to leave the EU and the last election added more people wanting to leave.

 

It was a democratic vote both times yet you don't seem to understand or accept that part of democracy.

 

TBH I am bored with your comments and replies so I shall put you on my ignore list. It is a shame because you do make some good posts quite often.

I'm bored that you don't seem to understand that the majority of UK voters did not vote to leave the EU.

Only 37% did.

 

1 minute ago, bannork said:

I'm bored that you don't seem to understand that the majority of UK voters did not vote to leave the EU.

Only 37% did.

 

Which in fact translates into 52% of those who bothered to vote Leave or Remain.

 

If they didn't vote, then the vote was not recorded.

 

Do you know for sure which way the non voters would have cast their vote, IF they had bothered?

 

I have no idea and nobody else does either.

 

Perhaps it would have been 50/50, which means that leave would still have had a majority albeit a larger one.

 

I could have won 30,000,000 baht on the Thai lottery this month, that is if I had bothered to buy the tickets. It is the same principle. 

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Scotland voted against Brexit.

<yet another ???????????????????????????? hijacking?>

9 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Which in fact translates into 52% of those who bothered to vote Leave or Remain.

 

If they didn't vote, then the vote was not recorded.

 

Do you know for sure which way the non voters would have cast their vote, IF they had bothered?

 

I have no idea and nobody else does either.

 

Perhaps it would have been 50/50, which means that leave would still have had a majority albeit a larger one.

 

I could have won 30,000,000 baht on the Thai lottery this month, that is if I had bothered to buy the tickets. It is the same principle. 

The fact is only 37% of the electorate bothered to vote for Brexit. Who knows which way those who didn't vote would have chosen?

But no one can say the majority of the British people voted for Brexit.

They didn't.

Just now, bannork said:

The fact is only 37% of the electorate bothered to vote for Brexit. Who knows which way those who didn't vote would have chosen?

But no one can say the majority of the British people voted for Brexit.

They didn't.

What percentage of the UK population voted to Remain ?

It was less than 37 %

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Scotland voted against Brexit.

Scotland didnt vote individually

The UK (Which Scotland is part of)voted to Leave  

21 minutes ago, bannork said:

The fact is only 37% of the electorate bothered to vote for Brexit. Who knows which way those who didn't vote would have chosen?

But no one can say the majority of the British people voted for Brexit.

They didn't.

#534 (⛔)

1 hour ago, Rookiescot said:

Scotland voted against Brexit.

38.0% of the people in Scotland voted to Leave

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/18/uk-to-close-door-to-non-english-speakers-and-unskilled-workers

UK to close door to non-English speakers and unskilled workers

Government plans to take ‘full control’ of borders a disaster for economy and jobs, say industry leaders and Labour

 

 

O.K. it is their country and so their right ,and  they could vote it easy with supermajority ….

 

BUT what if the E.U. make it same way …..? Some funny languages in the 27 country's …. , and like Brits are in general no language champions.... (in general i say exceptions exists ) as English is accepted as international used language  …. I would see the result for all those old pensioners having language exam in their local E.U.country of residence language …..

As what counts for one side could count for the counterpart side also ????

1 minute ago, david555 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/18/uk-to-close-door-to-non-english-speakers-and-unskilled-workers

UK to close door to non-English speakers and unskilled workers

Government plans to take ‘full control’ of borders a disaster for economy and jobs, say industry leaders and Labour

 

 

O.K. it is their country and so their right ,and  they could vote it easy with supermajority ….

 

BUT what if the E.U. make it same way ….. some funny languages in the27 country's …. , and like Brits are in general no language champions.... (in general i say exceptions exists ) as English is accepted as international used language  …. I would see the result for all those old pensioners having language exam in their local E.U.country of residence language …..

As what counts for one side could count for the counterpart side 

Its not really important for pensioners to be able to speak the language of where they live