probleme with my BMW order

[no deal]

i order in april a new BMW, today april 20 the dealer call me the car is there, i ask the vin number to check and this car is made in 2019! i dont want a 2019 car order in april 2020,what do you think?

[transam]

Where was it assembled, LOS or Germany or........

Is it a 2020 model..

In the UK, model years can start the year before....My Volvo did...

[Jai Dee]

If it was assembled in Germany it would have taken a few months to get delivered by sea.

[Kwasaki]

7 minutes ago, no deal said:

what do you think?

Wait for a 2020 then if it's that important unless you can get a good price deal on the motor.

[Kwasaki]

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Where was it assembled, LOS or Germany or........

Is it a 2020 model..

In the UK, model years can start the year before....My Volvo did...

Remember in UK use to get good new car deals before August 1st with most people thinking the important's of a number plate. ????

[KhunBENQ]

43 minutes ago, no deal said:

i order in april a new BMW, today april 20 the dealer call me the car is there

So less than 3 weeks to have it ready?

Obviously a model from the inventory.

No way being shipped or and unlikely made to order.

 

Now you have to find out how old it actually is (in months)?

Has there been a new model release/upgrade compared to the car that has been supplied?

What parts would deteriorate in such a (short) time frame at an unused car?

 

 

Edited April 20, 2020 by KhunBENQ

[KhunBENQ]

3 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

unlikely made to order

This refers to ordering a new BMW in Germany where each little detail of the car is individually put together from a large catalog of options.

When I bought my car (no BMW) in 2011 there was a choice of four main variants and a couple of colors.

And that was it.

[OneMoreFarang]

43 minutes ago, no deal said:

i order in april a new BMW, today april 20 the dealer call me the car is there, i ask the vin number to check and this car is made in 2019! i dont want a 2019 car order in april 2020,what do you think?

What exactly did you order?

 

In May in 2018 I bought a new European motorcycle. It was manufactured in 2017 and the 2018 model had basically no changes. So no problem. And the dealer told me before I paid.

You should know what exactly you ordered. Something like "a new M3" is no sufficient answer.

[transam]

1 minute ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What exactly did you order?

 

In May in 2018 I bought a new European motorcycle. It was manufactured in 2017 and the 2018 model had basically no changes. So no problem. And the dealer told me before I paid.

You should know what exactly you ordered. Something like "a new M3" is no sufficient answer.

Yes, my 1988 760 Volvo Estate was registered in I think October 1987, but it was the 1988 model, now the 1988 model went totally computerised and some body stuff was a bit different, my 1987 registered was 100% a 1988 model......Loved that car....????

[PattayaDavid]

In Thailand, the year of the car is based on the date of manufacture; this is how it will appear in your Green book.  If you want to buy a car that will be registered as a 2020, it must be manufactured in 2020.  You could decline this car and opt for another if you're not in a hurry as there might be a waiting list.

[no deal]

21 hours ago, transam said:

Where was it assembled, LOS or Germany or........

Is it a 2020 model..

In the UK, model years can start the year before....My Volvo did...

the car come from Germany and is assembled in Thailand i understand that,but if the manufacture in thailand order the new car parts in Decembre, they can sell the new year car in March,any way the dealer give me  big discount and i take the new 2019 BMW ,

but i really like to get a 2020 car, a 6 month new car all ready loose valus.

[no deal]

so the discount take care of that!

[gamesgplayemail]

Most people buying BMW and Benz built in Thailand don't even know that they are buying lower quality cars...

Only buy imported from Germany.

 

[transam]

2 minutes ago, gamesgplayemail said:

Most people buying BMW and Benz built in Thailand don't even know that they are buying lower quality cars...

Only buy imported from Germany.

 

Why...Are the parts Thai made or are you saying the fitter/assemblers tools are different......?

[no deal]

On 4/20/2020 at 11:40 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

What exactly did you order?

 

In May in 2018 I bought a new European motorcycle. It was manufactured in 2017 and the 2018 model had basically no changes. So no problem. And the dealer told me before I paid.

You should know what exactly you ordered. Something like "a new M3" is no sufficient answer.

i order a 2020 BMW i told the people i don't want a model 2019! but they try anyway!

[no deal]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Why...Are the parts Thai made or are you saying the fitter/assemblers tools are different......?

stupid comment,the car is the same just need assembled ,or you may be right the tools and assembler are different...

 

[gamesgplayemail]

27 minutes ago, transam said:

Why...Are the parts Thai made or are you saying the fitter/assemblers tools are different......?

 

sit in 2 similar cars, same options, 1 imported and 1 locally made, then you understand.

 

[transam]

1 hour ago, no deal said:

stupid comment,the car is the same just need assembled ,or you may be right the tools and assembler are different...

 

Stupid comment, well I am gasted and flabbered............????

[transam]

1 hour ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

sit in 2 similar cars, same options, 1 imported and 1 locally made, then you understand.

 

You tell me the difference and why they are different...?

[no deal]

3 hours ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

sit in 2 similar cars, same options, 1 imported and 1 locally made, then you understand.

 

that i understand,the all car is made in germany,but BMW adapte les models en fonction des pays,par exemple thailand drive not like in europe,and little think,but the car is made in germany and is good quality!

 

[Don Mega]

2 hours ago, transam said:

You tell me the difference and why they are different...?

Happy to be corrected but it was understanding they are CKD builds but to qualify for local tax breaks there has to a percentage of local content (40% comes to mind).

Edited April 21, 2020 by Don Mega

[no deal]

35 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Happy to be corrected but it was understanding they are CKD builds but to qualify for local tax breaks there has to a percentage of local content (40% comes to mind).

possble,tires,battery and other,very possible,the last two car i buy last year was one honda jazz and one honda civic RS, i have problem whit tires and battery...

[Don Mega]

2 minutes ago, no deal said:

possble,tires,battery and other,very possible,the last two car i buy last year was one honda jazz and one honda civic RS, i have problem whit tires and battery...

For some vehicles that I know are CKD (not BMW) its stuff like interior/exterior plastics/interior trim/fuel tanks/brakelines/ etc etc etc...

 

 

[DavisH]

6 hours ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

sit in 2 similar cars, same options, 1 imported and 1 locally made, then you understand.

 

They feel just the same to sit in on the side of the road broken down lol

[pineapple01]

Acetia make most of the Robots. Dont suppose a Robot cares if hes in Germany or Thailand. Herman the German does the same as Old Nop. Looks forward to going Home.

[DaRoadrunner]

Problem is the local content quality is Thai standard. Its not a full BMW but a TMW.

Edited April 21, 2020 by DaRoadrunner

[Sundown]

7 hours ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

sit in 2 similar cars, same options, 1 imported and 1 locally made, then you understand.

 

This is so true. 

Last month I sat into a Thailand assembled X5 and...the steering wheel was on the right side! I mean dude, one also pays 70% on top of taxes and duties for these poorly assembled cars? Definitely not worth it. Better buy a Proton.

[no deal]

to make a end of that my car is in the front of my house and i am very happy whit,a car is a car , i all way replace my car every two years, so quality don't matter to me and my BMW come whit 3 years warranty so....you have a good day!

 

[richard_smith237]

13 hours ago, transam said:

14 hours ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

sit in 2 similar cars, same options, 1 imported and 1 locally made, then you understand.

 

You tell me the difference and why they are different...?

 

Reputations last a long time. 

 

A Thai friend bought his Merc ML, I asked why Merc, his answer that it was stronger and better than a Japanese car because the steel flexes more on the bodywork of the Japanese car, ergo the Merc is safer. 

Perhaps he was right, but his preconceptions were flawed and based on dated opinions. 

 

Is there really any difference in where a car is manufactured these days? I'm not so sure.

 

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On the topic of MY of the car based on the vin. Its a common misconception that MY stands for Manufactured Year, it stands for Model Year. Cars are also dated with build date. 

 

Thus, if the Op has requested a car from 2020 it may not be possible as the model year is MY19 and thats all there is available until the next ‘face lift’. 

 

This could be a case of requesting something without understanding the specify and then getting hung up on a detail. 

 

That said - if the Op wants a 2020 car, he has to specify Build Year, in which case he may well have to wait a while longer. 

 

This Aussie site explains this: https://www.motorama.com.au/blog/buyer-advice/what-is-the-difference-between-build-date-compliance-date-and-model-year/

 

 

[richard_smith237]

7 hours ago, DaRoadrunner said:

Problem is the local content quality is Thai standard. Its not a full BMW but a TMW.

Would that mean any BMW built or assembled outside of Dingolfing (Bravaria) not fit for the BMW name?

BMW’s are also assembled in the UK, Austria, China, USA etc etc etc.... 

 

The ‘local content quality’ is just a Thai bash - A UK, US, China, Thai made model of the same car would be indistinguishable*

 

*Thats an assumption - we’d need to line up the same model from different factories (different countries) and drive them for a few years to actually see if there is any difference.