Expats sought to help Thailand’s tourism industry in its hour of need, end to dual pricing mooted

[umlungu2012]

.... and then you get to a restaurant and see the sign indicating foreigners "not welcome", not permitted access ..... Lol, this must be the real and unexplored "unseen Thailand". They have a long way to go to rediscover their long-lost sense of hospitality and genuine welcoming smile.

[FNQ]

1 minute ago, SunsetT said:

I learned many years ago never to roll up at a hotel with a suitcase when they can charge what they like; falang or Thai! Always book in advance thru an online agent like Agoda.com or get the missus to phone in advance, or enter the hotel or business first to check the price.

Yes , i check online first then approach the Hotel to give them the option of cash.

Funny though in some cases i have been told to book on line using the computer in the recption area because it is cheaper . Go figure.

 

 

[Jeff Simoneaux]

I would love to travel Thailand again like I did for the last 5 years that I lived there. But the Kingdom of Thailand needs to allow people like me with non-immigrant O retirement visas back to our our homes there.

[thequietman]

4 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

Let the retiree back in and this would certainly improve relations with the expat community. How about openly give long timers with family easy PR's!

They do - if you are a foreign female married to a Thai man. ????

 

The opposite way, Thai lady married to foreign male, is just hundreds of hoops and fences to get across. ????

[johng]

1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

when you can get the same treatment close to your own Home.

For us Brits we can just go across the channel for some "treatment"

????

[thequietman]

1 hour ago, lee b said:

What ever could the first one be? lol.

Sod, get, leave, jump, climb, stand, f##k, pi@@, kiss, rub, ......... ????

[djayz]

5 hours ago, lupin said:

Perhaps farang might be more interested in spending their dollars while traveling if, for example, restaurants didnt have policies refusing to serve said farang

I've never, in the 20 years that I've traveled and lived here, been refused service in any establishment. What state were you in when they refused to serve you? 

[BestB]

1 hour ago, Cake Monster said:

This is probably one of the best ideas I have heard in a longtime.

Expats are here because most of them have been successful in their own Countries and moved here on the success.

Lawyers, Engineers, Doctors Etc Etc Etc. All those skills and all that experience not being tapped.

Skills and Experience that would transform Thailand as a nation if they could be taught.

But no, we are not allowed to Educate these people to our high standards.

Yes so successful that they can not keep 800000 in the bank????.

 

so many foreign owned businesses claiming to be experts and charging premium yet providing below average service 

[Dukeleto]

4 hours ago, johng said:

She was in the hit TV series   that promoted "everyone" to go around dressed as  "olde Ayutthayins"

I’ll rush off to watch that then????

[johng]

4 minutes ago, djayz said:

I've never, in the 20 years that I've traveled and lived here, been refused service in any establishment. What state were you in when they refused to serve you? 

There a big hoo har a couple of days ago about a restaurant not serving foreigners along with viral video.

[Jenkins9039]

Not travelling, been doing a lot of building work though!!

[johng]

3 minutes ago, Dukeleto said:

I’ll rush off to watch that then????

"Up to you"  I haven't watched any of it.  Hijacked a bit by the "democratic soldier" and his minions.

[mr336]

1 hour ago, davemos said:

I think one soluton to the rising unemployment would be to let exoats work on any visa.There is a wealth of experience and opportunity getting wasted ???? This would give Thais opportunity to learn and develop .Income could be taxed and  help fill the gap left by the tourism sector.

I was a 7/11 clerk back home. Surely Im impotent?

[Shaunduhpostman]

Why are we being asked to help? Its their country they can work together to solve the problem. Not every country on earth has a strict lockout and 14 day quarantine requirement. Can't they look into what someone bedsides the WHO and UN say about COVID19, the droves of epidemiologists, virologists, doctors etc who say and can show you if you have a 30 minute attention span why COVID19 is not only not any more dangerous than  a flu, that nobody in any significant numbers  is dying of it anymore. How much can they really be bothered with solving the problem that they come out with this utterly lugubrious plea for foreigners to help? Here is an article from Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s website about how the pandemic is over, maybe this will help them adjust and be like some other countries who are apparently not quaking in their boots over flu viruses countries such as Mexico, Turkey, Macedonia, Albania, Serbia, Nepal (Mid-August), Brazil and many others with much less stringent foreigner requirements than Thailand. They need to put Thai people at ease by explaining they we have immune systems and that it is important to eat well, rest and exercise, and if you do that your immune system will not let you die or even get sick. But if they want to run with the Pharma companies and the vaccinators etc., to spread fear perhaps because they are signed on to do their bidding then no amount of begging for help from foreigners to save you from what you can easily save yourself from  is going to help. https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/lockdown-lunacy-3-0-its-over/?itm_term=home

Edited August 4, 2020 by Shaunduhpostman

[johng]

1 minute ago, mr336 said:

I was a 7/11 clerk back home. Surely Im impotent?

Too much junk food and MSG ?

[Longchop]

Have refused to enter any of your rip off ×2 to ×10  venues for past 15 years and have survived brillianty so am afraid I will not be rushing to go now, not even if it's free. With your treatment of your tourists in the past you deserve to sink.

[Bangkok Barry]

The attitude is breathtaking. For decades the government has led the way, set an example for fellow Thais, that it is okay to charge foreigners a higher rate than Thais. And now they might make an effort to try and end the dual pricing, but only if it's not too difficult and while admitting that they can only ask pretty please for everyone to not discriminate by race.

 

Here's an idea. Make it illegal to charge a different rate for foreigners for anything, and enforce it. Fine them 1000x the overcharge the first time and close their business for a month the second time it happens. And enforce it. Anyone who breaks the law can be highlighted on the Fleece the Farang FB site, and even report it to the police (not that that would make any difference if, as has happened with quarantine hotels, a kickback is offered for preferential treatment).

[SunsetT]

33 minutes ago, FNQ said:

Yes , i check online first then approach the Hotel to give them the option of cash.

Funny though in some cases i have been told to book on line using the computer in the recption area because it is cheaper . Go figure.

 

 

Me too, usually when I decide to book more nights.

[MRToMRT]

22 minutes ago, djayz said:

I've never, in the 20 years that I've traveled and lived here, been refused service in any establishment. What state were you in when they refused to serve you? 

Actually .... I have many times when I lived in Bangkok. Nearly all the Japanese clubs and bars would refuse me entrance. They would also refuse Thais.

[djayz]

I'll gladly start travelling and spending here again as soon as: 

* I'm treated like a tax paying resident who works and resides here legally (by that I mean I want to be treated like a normal human being),

* they permanently abolish dual pricing,

* they prohibit tuk-tuk/taxi drivers beeping and shouting at me/us when I/we go for a stroll, 

*properly train those employed in the hospitality industry. As part of their training, they should be educated not to pick their noses in the restaurant or kitchen, not groom their hair or clip/file finger nails while anywhere near food and they should clean tables and cutlery thoroughly, 

* tell the BIB to stop targeting farang for driving offenses which their countrymen commit a million times more often, 

* prohibit the brain dead street vendors from walking up to restaurant tables trying to sell their wares,

*clean up the parks, roadsides, canals, rivers, etc.,

*tackle the soi dog population explosion (sorry it that upsets some of you, but it really is a problem which should be tackled asap. Some of those muts pose a real health hazard). 

I could go on ad infinitum, but those are my main grievances. 

 

Having said that, I've had pretty positive experiences while travelling here, but I can't help but feel that if the above mention problems (and a few others) were solved, it could be so much better. 

 

 

 

Edited August 4, 2020 by djayz

[GigsGigs]

1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said:

Personally, I wish The Kingdom nothing but the worst. And honestly...everything bad for Thailand is actually good for me and my Thai family. 

Likewise. Proof is, Thai economy crashing? Look the exchange rate is back in our favor!

[phka]

Is that correct 2 million ex pat's living in Thailand? 

That's a lot. 

[Raphus]

Now the financial economic situation is FINALLY biting them hard in the raer end. Now they are FINALLY realizing the economic fall out that has been created. Now they are asking expats to spend money when they slagged is off and accused the dirty farangs being responsible for Covid19. Now they want you to turn the country back around.

what a false.

[MRToMRT]

As nearly all the expats in Thailand don't want to take part (by the majority of comments here) in helping to save poor Thailand from the fruits of its own government/s led xenophobia. Maybe they should let us who are stranded outside back in to kick start the economy? 

 

We promise to be good little servile farangs if you will let us back in. We promise to never raise the spectre of your throwing us out with the rubbish already.

[alien365]

The statistic that stood out to me was 12million Thais go abroad every year. That's a huge amount considering we keep getting told how little they earn. 

 

I also don't expect the dual pricing to end any time soon considering the new hospital tariffs that were confirmed a few months back.

[holy cow cm]

3 hours ago, Hank Gunn said:

But the key is, "really trending" with who? They may be famous with Thais but doubt many expats know who they are and if they do, they'd be a small minority.

Guilty as charged. I do watch and enjoy thai tv sometimes. Me and the wife recently watching a show or two he was in and there was One from old times she was in. 

[Sydebolle]

I use a VISA card, issued by Citibank in Bangkok. I've been charged higher commissions and surcharges, as the idiot cashier said, that Citibank is not a Thai bank but an American bank. Despite the "Royal Orchid Plus" Logo of Thai Airways, the local prefix of Thailand's VISA-cards she insisted on the surcharge. I got Citibank on the phone and got a bilingual professional lady on the phone. 

I passed on the phone to the cashier, who listened, did hang off the phone and still wanted to charge me. I asked for the duty manager, who appeared; I paid in cash and made it clear and loud enough to tell anyone around, that I enjoyed the stay but the "dirty farang" surcharge would make sure that my group of totally four double rooms for ten days would be the last visit ever. Vented also my spleen on TripAdvisor but nobody cared whatsoever. 

I refuse double pricing and racist surcharges by principle; maybe the tourism gurus of this country will take note of it. Very, very frustrating to hammer it into these idiots heads - serves them right! 

[Skeptic7]

4 minutes ago, GigsGigs said:

Likewise. Proof is, Thai economy crashing? Look the exchange rate is back in our favor!

Not sure what your currency, but mine is U$D and it is down against the TH฿ about 2% since mid-July and down more than 5% since early April. But hopefully in the longer run!

[3NUMBAS]

oaps have limited funds ya know

[johng]

4 minutes ago, alien365 said:

The statistic that stood out to me was 12million Thais go abroad every year.

Abroad could mean Burma and Laos ?