Three thousand foreign teachers waiting to return to Thailand - 165 Filipinos arrived at weekend

[VBF]

4 minutes ago, sambum said:

You're just picking up where I left off! ???? 

Nice!!!   Must be time to binn it now though....before we go off tropic

[jonclark]

4 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

Speculations are just that, speculations.

 

my guess is you are just <deleted> off bc The Farang has to wait while The Asian Filipino teacher can come in.

 

Sorry, just bc somebody is a white farang it doesnt mean  they are entitled to special treatment. It sucks and is highly  unfair, i know...

I would suggest that for teachers coming from the UK, for most of them the academic year / contracts have .just ended at the end of July, so it has taken them a couple of weeks to get the paperwork, flights and visas organised with the relevent agencies once they finished at their previous schools. 

 

Nothing to do with special treatment just common sense.

[moe666]

4 hours ago, herwin1234 said:

Speculations are just that, speculations.

 

my guess is you are just <deleted> off bc The Farang has to wait while The Asian Filipino teacher can come in.

 

Sorry, just bc somebody is a white farang it doesnt mean  they are entitled to special treatment. It sucks and is highly  unfair, i know...

In a early story else where these teachers are just coming back to old jobs, evidently they had been working in country until the virus broke out. Affording the cost more than likely, if working at a reputable private they could be making upwards of 200,000b a month

[metisdead]

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[jonclark]

3 hours ago, Scot123 said:

Actual qualified western teachers are still only paid peanut compared to their home countries. Even the top paying jobs salaries are laughable..

International school salaries here are actually significantly better than UK state schools. Especially when, scholarships for dependents, health care, flight allowance (inc dependents) and bonuses which for some are yearly .... And add in the creative accounting by the school's accountants which reduces the tax bill and many international teachers take home £4000+ net a month. Not many UK teachers make £50000 per annum net in the state or private sector.

[Max69xl]

8 hours ago, redwood1 said:

So how did these 165 Filipino teachers get approved?.....And why are 3,000 farang teachers waiting?.......I would speculate most Filipino teachers would be less able to jump through all the hoops and pay the money compared to most farang teachers...

 

Unless

 

Some one plans to pay the Filipino teachers less and does not mind footing the bill...

Many of these teachers are already hired and was stranded back home. Do you have any idea how many Filipino/Filipina teachers there are in Thailand, especially in BKK and Chiang Mai during a normal year? There are loads of them. Many of them have probably borrowed the money for the quarantine. 

[Max69xl]

5 minutes ago, moe666 said:

In a early story else where these teachers are just coming back to old jobs, evidently they had been working in country until the virus broke out. Affording the cost more than likely, if working at a reputable private they could be making upwards of 200,000b a month

"could be making upwards of 200,000b a month"

I strongly doubt that. 

[Expat Brad]

I smell BS. Or, are the Thai schools offering contracts and employment outside of Thailand. Only expensive private schools do this. What about the 39,000 government schools. I don't think that they are hiring in the same manner!!!

[Elkski]

I have met many Thai teachers and their English  skills were severely lacking,  even the ones with English degrees.  I watch several Phillipina YouTube channels and they speak better English than almost all the thai women I have met. 

[moe666]

3 hours ago, kevin612 said:

What do filipino teachers teach in Thailand? Thanks 

A friend worked at a top notch private school in Bangkok, the filippinos taught everything and a few were paid more than many of the other teachers due to being at the school for many years. Reading the commets here people do not know a thing about what teachers can make at a private school in Thailand. My friend started at 120,000b a month this was base salary more was paid for extra work. He could make 30,000 more a month for extra classes also they were paid 40,000 a month housing allowance. This was 10 years ago. Get your facts straight before posting non-sense.

[moe666]

16 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

"could be making upwards of 200,000b a month"

I strongly doubt that. 

Then you do not know what the top notch schools pay, these schools require that the teacher have a teaching certificate from the country they recieved there degree. These schools pay good money because believe it or not they charge 30,000 dollars a year tuition. Believe it or not.

[i84teen]

6 minutes ago, moe666 said:

A friend worked at a top notch private school in Bangkok, the filippinos taught everything and a few were paid more than many of the other teachers due to being at the school for many years. Reading the commets here people do not know a thing about what teachers can make at a private school in Thailand. My friend started at 120,000b a month this was base salary more was paid for extra work. He could make 30,000 more a month for extra classes also they were paid 40,000 a month housing allowance. This was 10 years ago. Get your facts straight before posting non-sense.

120K THB/month for a filipino teacher,,,in Thailand?

555.....rrrrriiiiiggggggggghhhhhhtttttt!

[phetphet]

With a lot of people losing their jobs here in Thailand due to COVID. Both Thais and foreigners. I am surprised that there is such a demand for schoolteachers as surely a lot of people won't be able to afford the international school fees this coming year

[Tongjaw]

3 hours ago, Darkside Gray said:

Seeing Filipino teachers performance before I very much doubt it.

I’d say they speak and teach better English than some of the so called ESL teachers in Thailand. Met a couple of teachers in Bangkok last year. They had completed their few hours of training and had jobs to go to in Udon Thani schools. One guy was from South Shields and the other Scouser. I just pity the poor kids who where unlucky enough to have them as their teachers. 

[GaryAdriaenssens]

And the biggest victims are the students (not that most of them care...) and the foreign teachers who are here and never wanted or needed to leave but are treated as another type of virus.... If the rumours are true hundreds of teaching positions are still vacant and schools are looking but the great rulers of most of these schools create a list of about 50 requirements that even a very qualified NES teacher can't fulfill. Lord have mercy! ????

[aussienam]

Unless it is a lifestyle choice to go to Thailand to teach English, many foreign teachers do not get paid that well there (exceptions of course if you are working in specialist area, international school etc).

 

The cost of flights, insurance, ASQ, visa app, etc will add up, meaning that for several months, you will be working for free, as you will be paying for the cost of getting back in.  

[Elkski]

The government sent out a decree recently about hiring more English teachers.   The teacher salary debate always rages.   What is clear is there is not a set pay scale because some farangs complain their wife or GF only makes 15,000 baht  when I have seen a written salary list with thai teachers making more than 50,000 baht/mo.    200,000 is surprising  to me but believable. Some people have very advanced teaching degrees and the private schools must compete.   I doubt many of the people who send their children to private schools have been hit hard financially from the virus.

 

Some of you  guys talk like people are starving and dying in the streets and Thailand is about to go into ruins, but all the thai people I know are doing fine.  One gal had a month off during lockdown and 1 month with reduced pay.  What kind of people do some of you guys associate with??

Edited August 11, 2020 by Elkski

[herfiehandbag]

9 hours ago, redwood1 said:

So how did these 165 Filipino teachers get approved?.....And why are 3,000 farang teachers waiting?.......I would speculate most Filipino teachers would be less able to jump through all the hoops and pay the money compared to most farang teachers...

 

Unless

 

Some one plans to pay the Filipino teachers less and does not mind footing the bill...

 

10 hours ago, ezzra said:

Can't see any of those teachers affording the $100k insurance, period testing and paying for their quarantines as teachers usually not that flush with cash to say the least...

You will probably find that the deal is: your salary is (nominally) THB 24000 a month, the school or the agency will pay for the quarantine and insurance ( a bulk deal probably negotiated), you will receive THB 1200 a month, until such time as the costs (and any "incidental expenses" of the agents and school principals) have been recouped. Some will be making a lot of money, you can be certain it won't be the Filipino teachers. In fact, I should imagine their salaries will never again approach the (not very heady) heights they achieved pre Covid.

[soi3eddie]

10 hours ago, ezzra said:

Can't see any of those teachers affording the $100k insurance, period testing and paying for their quarantines as teachers usually not that flush with cash to say the least...

suspect the insurance and costs may be paid by their employers.

 

[soi3eddie]

4 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I would not want any Filipino teaching my kids English

would be just same as an American teaching English ???? 

[DrMJA]

So a "Pino" (Near Native English) NNE who gets paid less than a (Native English) NE teacher, has the airfare and the 100K insurance, plus cash for the two weeks in quarantine with meals. 

 

However, you get what you pay for . . . . ????

[Percy P]

9 hours ago, Grumpy John said:

Bingo!  The prize for you is to be first in line for a shot of the Wuhan China plague virus miracle cure.  ????

What subjects are these teachers going to teach. If it English then they should be able to speak English phonetically and made to recite the alphabet letters phonetic sounds as spoken in a word  American English is not British English and should not accepted

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Percy P

[umlungu2012]

2 hours ago, nausea said:

I don't know, but I do know a mate of mine was lending out movies to a Filipino and he was renting them out to his mates. And I do know Filipinos who tried to exploit the Thai recruitment system. Basically, your average Filipino doesn't have two pennies to rub together. Anything that makes money.

I worked with a Filippino female teacher once and she was certainly smart and on top of her game. During an exam she was busy communicating the answers to her students. A fellow British teacher and I could barely catch up in the remaining exam time after discovering the above in handing out answers as well. It seemed it was a very non-academic, infantile competitive spirit that encroached on any credibility that the course and its final exam might have had. 

[FlyingThai]

The amount of racism and bickering in this thread is unbelievable. So you think a Filipino teacher employed at an international school doesn't make good money?

 

Think again buddy. These people probably make more than many of those moaning here on TV because they are "stuck" back home and won't be let in.

[NoComment]

I am sure any student would agree that a farang English teacher (L1 versus L2) is a far superior English teacher than a Filipino.

Me thinks Rooster would agree also.

However, if they have all of the correct paperwork etc I suppose a Filipino is better than nothing.

 

 

[FlyingThai]

34 minutes ago, Elkski said:

 

 

Some of you  guys talk like people are starving and dying in the streets and Thailand is about to go into ruins, but all the thai people I know are doing fine.  One gal had a month off during lockdown and 1 month with reduced pay.  What kind of people do some of you guys associate with??

Couldn't have said it better. Some people (foreigners) need to get out of the slums.

[umlungu2012]

1 hour ago, moe666 said:

A friend worked at a top notch private school in Bangkok, the filippinos taught everything and a few were paid more than many of the other teachers due to being at the school for many years. Reading the commets here people do not know a thing about what teachers can make at a private school in Thailand. My friend started at 120,000b a month this was base salary more was paid for extra work. He could make 30,000 more a month for extra classes also they were paid 40,000 a month housing allowance. This was 10 years ago. Get your facts straight before posting non-sense.

Not clear if your friend is a NNS or NS. NS, possible, although I taught in Thailand ten years ago and private schools were nowhere near 120,000 baht/month (for NS). These days I have no idea about salary levels. The old standard Thai govt school salary of 30-35k seems to have remained the same, I gather.

[anchadian]

14 minutes ago, Percy P said:

What subjects are these teachers going to teach. If it English then they should be able to speak English phonetically and made to recite the alphabet letters phonetic sounds as spoken in a word  American English is not British English and should not accepted

 

I couldn't agree more.  

[Percy P]

3 minutes ago, umlungu2012 said:

I worked with a Filippino female teacher once and she was certainly smart and on top of her game. During an exam she was busy communicating the answers to her students. A fellow British teacher and I could barely catch up in the remaining exam time after discovering the above in handing out answers as well. It seemed it was a very non-academic, infantile competitive spirit that encroached on any credibility that the course and its final exam might have had. 

I hope you are an English teacher who corrects your student's with the correct English pronunciation as water is not Wader or Wars as pronounced by American's.

[FlyingThai]

1 minute ago, NoComment said:

I am sure any student would agree that a farang English teacher (L1 versus L2) is a far superior English teacher than a Filipino.

Me thinks Rooster would agree also.

However, if they have all of the correct paperwork etc I suppose a Filipino is better than nothing.

 

 

I wouldn't want to be taught English by an Australian or Southern State American I can hardly understand. Apart from that being a NES doesn't make you a teacher. You need to have a proper command as well as knowledge of the language as well as an exceptional vocabulary. Plus ideally a teachers certification or BE. Not really what these begpacker "teachers" recruited at Khao San Road bring to the table but hey at least they have an Australian/Canadian/US passport. ????