1 hour ago, elliss said:

 

 Few and far between , as many old sex pats , over 70 , 

  Just have pensions , and memories , so sad .555

 

 

Their memories are far superior to your mundane reality!  ????

9 hours ago, Nout said:

A joiner fee. 555 A jackals fee more like. Only wet behind the ears ever paid a joiner fee! A fee for fools.

Thank you.... many years ago as an early Thailand tourist I was nervous to travel to Pattaya without a hotel booking, this was the days before Internet and Agoda! Those bookings made in Bangkok usually involved paying up front and a couple of times it appears the booking was on a single basis. Even early internet Forums would supply information on which hotels had joiner fees and which did not, it was quite common. There were hotels where you could not even get a girl in if she was not registered at check-in.

Your comments seem to stem from a lack of experience.

 

17 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

But not as a Marriott...and it too has now been rebranded as the Avani.

The Royal Garden was rebranded as the Marriott in early 2001. The HRH opened November 2001.

 

https://www.travelweekly-asia.com/Travel-News/Marriott-takes-on-more-Royal-Garden-hotels-2147462539

http://www.pattayamail.com/416/community.htm 

1 hour ago, dabhand said:

The Royal Garden was rebranded as the Marriott in early 2001. The HRH opened November 2001.

 

https://www.travelweekly-asia.com/Travel-News/Marriott-takes-on-more-Royal-Garden-hotels-2147462539

http://www.pattayamail.com/416/community.htm 

I guess every 20 years it's time for a rebrand...though it's been the same Minor International Group owner all along.

17 hours ago, Leaver said:

Question:  If Pattaya attracts high end tourists, how many helipads are on buildings in Pattaya?  

There are a few buildings with helipads (at least Royal cliff, Wong Amat Tower, A-One, The Urban, The Sands, ... and even VT3, VT5, VT7!),

but in Pattaya most hotels/condos will chose for a rooftop swimming-pool rather than an helipad.

BTW not really difficult to land at the marina helipad and have a taxi to your near hotel.

Overpriced <deleted> anyway so who really cares your paying  for a silly name

23 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

There are a few buildings with helipads (at least Royal cliff, Wong Amat Tower, A-One, The Urban, The Sands, ... and even VT3, VT5, VT7!),

but in Pattaya most hotels/condos will chose for a rooftop swimming-pool rather than an helipad.

BTW not really difficult to land at the marina helipad and have a taxi to your near hotel.

How many do you see landing on them?  

Off topic posts have been removed. This topic is not about the political situation in Thailand. It is about the Hard Rock Hotel in Pattaya potentially closing due to their lease expiring.

21 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

Their memories are far superior to your mundane reality!  ????

 

 Links , would be much appreciated ..

They will just change the name to Planet Pattaya or something.  They seemed to be doing ok before covid and they will probably do ok after a name change and after covid.  Sounds like the company that owns it has deep enough pockets to hang on till things get better.  It's definitely not a good time to try sell anything right now unless you are desperate.

Hard Rock is an attractive global brand; many "collect" different branches around the world to stay at. The Chinese love it too, worth noting. It was doing fine pre Covid and the decline in numbers of Western visitors is no big deal there - except for those from USA who have a loyalty to their home brands. It is built in a style similar to many Vegas casinos - just saying. ????

The buffets including free flow of beers at the Starz Diner were great value for money and a big spread of excellent food, back a few years now though!

On 9/27/2020 at 5:12 PM, champers said:

Hard Rock is an attractive global brand; many "collect" different branches around the world to stay at. The Chinese love it too, worth noting. It was doing fine pre Covid and the decline in numbers of Western visitors is no big deal there - except for those from USA who have a loyalty to their home brands. It is built in a style similar to many Vegas casinos - just saying.

Your description doesn't exactly indicate anything classy, which is what was being intimated upthread.

2 hours ago, treetops said:

Your description doesn't exactly indicate anything classy, which is what was being intimated upthread.

It is classy, no doubt about that. They take a lot of group bookings that make it more affordable for some. I am basically saying that the brand is very strong and if anyone is going to replace it then it ought to be with something better. I don't think that is likely.