Fake Covid-19 negative certificate

[EricTh]

I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand.

 

For people who still won't believe that fake Covid-19 free cert can be purchased, here are the proofs.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54839434

 

French police have arrested seven people accused of offering fake negative Covid-19 test certificates to departing passengers at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport.

 

https://www.bedfordshire.police.uk/news-and-appeals/arrested-fake-covid-test-jan21#cd03cf6c

 

A man from Luton has been arrested on suspicion of fraud by false representation, in relation to the sale of bogus Covid test certificates.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/11/11/covid-19-tests-people-arrested-selling-fake-results-travelers/6246528002/

 

With COVID-19 tests becoming a common entry requirement for countries and states, a black market has popped up to serve travelers who need test results taken within a few days of departure.

 

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021/01/28/authorities-detect-forged-covid-19-result-slips-used-in-cross-border-travel

 

In a statement on Thursday (Jan 28), KPJ Healthcare Berhad said it has been made aware of reports where falsified or counterfeit results slips using Lablink letterheads had been used in the attempt.

Edited January 28, 2021 by EricTh

[blackcab]

Moved to the Covid19 forum.

[4MyEgo]

Low life's are always around, except they flourish in times of desperation.

[Oldie]

Will the same people supply vaccination passports too? 

[ukrules]

2 hours ago, Oldie said:

Will the same people supply vaccination passports too? 

 

There's no such thing as a vaccination passport - not yet anyway.

[XBroker]

bbc? Yeah.. they would never lie to me. ????

[richard_smith237]

13 hours ago, EricTh said:

I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand.

 

The likelihood of fake Covid certificates being available is quite believable.

 

BUT, which foreigners have arrived in Thailand and died ??? (you mean died in Quarantine?)

[madmen]

It's a good sign these people are getting busted. Proof that a quick photo shop and printer as I predicted are not going to cut it. 

Yes of course a few will get in, more to do with luck than good forgery 

[rabas]

15 hours ago, EricTh said:

I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand.

 

For people who still won't believe that fake Covid-19 free cert can be purchased, here are the proofs.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54839434

 

French police have arrested seven people accused of offering fake negative Covid-19 test certificates to departing passengers at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport.

 

https://www.bedfordshire.police.uk/news-and-appeals/arrested-fake-covid-test-jan21#cd03cf6c

 

A man from Luton has been arrested on suspicion of fraud by false representation, in relation to the sale of bogus Covid test certificates.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2020/11/11/covid-19-tests-people-arrested-selling-fake-results-travelers/6246528002/

 

With COVID-19 tests becoming a common entry requirement for countries and states, a black market has popped up to serve travelers who need test results taken within a few days of departure.

 

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021/01/28/authorities-detect-forged-covid-19-result-slips-used-in-cross-border-travel

 

In a statement on Thursday (Jan 28), KPJ Healthcare Berhad said it has been made aware of reports where falsified or counterfeit results slips using Lablink letterheads had been used in the attempt.

If fake certificates exist then someone could use one to fly to Thailand.

 

However,  positive cases in ASQ are likely because a  PCR test 72 hrs before departure can only detect people exposed to covid more than 5-6 days prior to departure. This is becasue of incubation time.

 

[Lacessit]

I'm more wondering about the state of mind of people that would buy one of these certificates, knowing it was fake.

[EricTh]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I'm more wondering about the state of mind of people that would buy one of these certificates, knowing it was fake.

 

If you desperately want to go to Thailand and your Covid test is positive, then buying a fake certificate is reasonable or else you won't be able to board the plane to Thailand.

 

Maybe that someone wants to be treated in Thailand or desperately need to be with some loved ones in Thailand etc, being infected with Covid is not a death sentence.

 

Edited January 29, 2021 by EricTh

[EricTh]

4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

The likelihood of fake Covid certificates being available is quite believable.

 

BUT, which foreigners have arrived in Thailand and died ??? (you mean died in Quarantine?)

 

I read a report in Bangkok Post recently about a British who tested positive soon after arrival. Note that the result takes a few days to process.

 

Arrival date: Dec 25 2020

Tested positive: Dec 29 2020

Died: Jan 24 2021

 

Because he was tested positive during quarantine, he was hospitalized until his death one month later.

 

 

Edited January 29, 2021 by EricTh

[Kiujunn]

3 hours ago, EricTh said:

 

Maybe that someone wants to be treated in Thailand or desperately need to be with some loved ones in Thailand etc, being infected with Covid is not a death sentence.

 

It may be the death sentence for a person that someone infects on the flight,  and it certainly is the death sentence for some future person further down the chain of infections started by flying.

[foreverlomsak]

8 hours ago, XBroker said:

bbc? Yeah.. they would never lie to me. ????

but I wouldn't put it past them to tell a version of the truth

[Puccini]

On 1/28/2021 at 11:03 AM, ukrules said:

 

There's no such thing as a vaccination passport - not yet anyway.

The WHO style international vaccination certificate should be good enough. It would be cumbersome to have to carry a separate document for every vaccination one gets.

[Firefan]

2 minutes ago, Puccini said:

The WHO style international vaccination certificate should be good enough. It would be cumbersome to have to carry a separate document for every vaccination one gets.

No worries - all the information will be in that chip they will implant in your butt ????

[MrMilk]

How about just taking the test instead of turning yourself into a criminal 

[richard_smith237]

On 1/28/2021 at 11:45 PM, richard_smith237 said:

 

The likelihood of fake Covid certificates being available is quite believable.

 

BUT, which foreigners have arrived in Thailand and died ??? (you mean died in Quarantine?)

 
So you have seen a report of one who died. 
 

There have been plenty of reports of foreigners who tested positive. That doesn’t mean the Covid Certificates were fake, it just means they contracted the disease after their test or close enough to the test that it was not identifiable at that stage. 

[gafdtomaka366]

On 1/28/2021 at 9:25 AM, EricTh said:

I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand.

 

That isn't as much of a cause you think because:

  * one can contract the virus even 5 minutes later after having taken a test

  * a test can be false-negative

  * one can contract virus  right before arrival, or in Thailand

  * if one wears a mask, then one can contract the virus  more easily versus "without a mask" because gems of the virus get accumulated on a mask

 

 

 

Edited February 2, 2021 by gafdtomaka366

[jackspade]

On 1/27/2021 at 11:25 PM, EricTh said:

I have noticed many cases of foreigners entering Thailand who tested positive on the first day and even died later in Thailand.

 

This is highly sus and sounds like typical fearmongering. Where's your proof? I find it more likely they had covid in the hospital and, being older, unhealthy people, later died from the flu/a car accident/heart attack/stroke/alcohol poisoning/drug overdose.

Edited February 2, 2021 by jackspade

[shdmn]

On 2/1/2021 at 1:56 AM, MrMilk said:

How about just taking the test instead of turning yourself into a criminal 

That would make too much sense. 

[Kiujunn]

10 hours ago, gafdtomaka366 said:

if one wears a mask, then one can contract the virus  more easily versus "without a mask"

I thought in Thailand, posting fake news about covid 19 is illegal? 

[PFMills]

On 1/29/2021 at 7:35 AM, EricTh said:

being infected with Covid is not a death sentence

Tell that to those who have died, oh no you can’t

[Cobra666]

9 hours ago, PFMills said:

Tell that to those who have died, oh no you can’t

For a broader reach, tell it to the people who survived. 

[EricTh]

On 2/1/2021 at 4:56 PM, MrMilk said:

How about just taking the test instead of turning yourself into a criminal 

Because they have already taken the test and tested positive for the virus. That's why they need a fake cert to enter Thailand, is this so difficult to understand?

[EricTh]

19 hours ago, PFMills said:

Tell that to those who have died, oh no you can’t

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

Deaths: 2 million

Recovered: 77 million.

 

So it's not a death sentence.

[rabas]

31 minutes ago, EricTh said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

Deaths: 2 million

Recovered: 77 million.

 

So it's not a death sentence.

 

Ah, 3% death rate.  Smell that coffee.

 

[longway]

On 2/2/2021 at 8:46 AM, gafdtomaka366 said:

 

That isn't as much of a cause you think because:

  * one can contract the virus even 5 minutes later after having taken a test

  * a test can be false-negative

  * one can contract virus  right before arrival, or in Thailand

  * if one wears a mask, then one can contract the virus  more easily versus "without a mask" because gems of the virus get accumulated on a mask

 

 

 

Also, depend on the protocol for a positive the lab follows. Just bc you are positive doesnt mean you are infectious, or in danger. Its just a convention that has been established. Doesn't mean its a good one.

Edited February 4, 2021 by longway

[richard_smith237]

8 hours ago, rabas said:

9 hours ago, EricTh said:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

Deaths: 2 million

Recovered: 77 million.

 

So it's not a death sentence.

 

Ah, 3% death rate.  Smell that coffee.

 

 

Hand anyone a bowl of 100 M&M’s - 2 of them will kill...  Anyone up for those odds ?

 

Globally: 103,631,793 cases of Covid-19 / Deaths 2,251,615 = 2.18% - but again, thats highly misleading because far more people may have had Covid-19 without noticing. Many of the deaths reported ‘with Covid-19’ and not ‘because of’.

 

Of course, that is an extremely basic and misleading statistic and what follows is also perhaps misleading and alarming because its based on data collected which itself is misleading due to died with Covid-19 not died because of. 

 

Anyone under 40... Offer them a bowl of 500 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Flirting with the odds them seems less risky. 

Anyone in their 40’s Offer them a bowl of 250 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Riskier odds.

Anyone in their 50’s Offer them a bowl of 77 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill. Anyone ready to play with those odds ?

Anyone in their 60’s Offer them a bowl of 28 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill.

Anyone in their 70’s Offer them a bowl of 13 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill.

Anyone over 80 Offer them a bowl of 7 M&M’s - 1 of them will kill.

 

Thus: Using the UK as an example - I want to use ‘excess deaths’ compared to an average over the past 5 years rather than reported Covid-19 deaths to avoid the misleading ‘died with’ issue.

 

Excess deaths for 2020: ±80,000 

Number of Covid-19 Cases: 3,870,000

The UK death rate from Covid-19 of 2.07% backs up the world figure of 2.18%.

 

The statistics show that anyone older than 50 really needs to be very careful. 

 

 

 

Source of age related deaths data.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

 

 

 

 

[EricTh]

9 hours ago, rabas said:

 

Ah, 3% death rate.  Smell that coffee.

 

 

 

What is the death rate of road accidents?