Do you suspect you may already have had Covid in Pattaya?

[John435]

Why not test sewage around Thailand? It’s a far easier way to get an indication of local infection, symptomatic or not.

 

If there was a lot of untested COVID cases, would there not be an unexplained increase in deaths?

[ChipButty]

Im a firm believer in Fresh Air or Sea Air will clear your lungs, we are pretty lucky where we live our house is quite high up and we are surrounded by the ocean right now there is a lovely breeze blowing through the house 7 am, 

I reckon last year my wife got it she had a stinking cold for about a week to 10 days with a bad cough, she's as fit as a butchers dog, thank whoever no lasting effects it cleared so all good.

[NoshowJones]

19 hours ago, sapson said:

 

Went to my local lab here in Issan for cbc months back and enquired about covid test cost , couldnt do on site needed to go to a hospital, however this lab did offer an antibody test for 1000 baht.

 

Lab is part of the Thonburi labs group many branches and possibly one in Pattaya or nearby.

"however this lab did offer an antibody test for 1000 baht." 1000Bt?? What is the profit margin of this 1000Bt? Some people are really so money orientated that they get rich through a world pandemic, just how low can some people get?

[Guderian]

20 hours ago, sapson said:

 

Went to my local lab here in Issan for cbc months back and enquired about covid test cost , couldnt do on site needed to go to a hospital, however this lab did offer an antibody test for 1000 baht.

 

Lab is part of the Thonburi labs group many branches and possibly one in Pattaya or nearby.

 

I contacted Lifecare and they can't do it. Oh well, it was a nice idea. If anybody hears of a lab or hospital in the Pattaya area (say, Sri Racha down to Sattahip) that can do the Ab blood test, please let us know here.

[kokopelli]

Over a year ago, as the Corona virus started to gain attention, I came down with what seemed to be a minor cold which was unusual for me. Symptoms were mild and after one week it was gone. Corona or not;  I will never know.

[Leaver]

Some months ago, I woke up not feeling very well.  I had some of the covid symptoms and thought to myself it could be covid.  I stayed home to isolate, but woke up the next morning feeling fine.  

 

Whatever it was, it didn't last long.  

 

I stayed home for a couple of more days after that, and then had to go to the shops, but wore a mask and kept my distance. 

 

I stayed home for a little over a week, feeling fine the whole time, and then got back to normal.

 

I would have liked to have been tested, not only to benefit me, but for contact tracing, but when you read articles like below, I thought why bother.

 

If I am vaccinated in Thailand, before being tested for covid antibodies, I guess I will never know if what I had that time was covid, or not.

 

 

 

[calmichael]

On 2/18/2021 at 2:58 PM, wasabi said:

I know some will be skeptical of what I am going to tell you and I am not even sure of it but here goes:

 

In March of 2019 (Yes many months before Covid-19 was known and possibly even existed) My wife and I flew from Bangkok back to California. We flew on a Chinese airline and transited in a Chinese international airport. We didn't wear any masks on any flights because Covid was not a thing at that time and few people wore them. About 3 days after landing in California I got quite ill. I had a fever and cough with lots of phlegm. I know people say they have a dry cough but I always have an issue with phlegm every time I'm sick. Over about a week I gradually got better. 2 days after I came down with it my wife got sick. Her illness was much more severe than mine. She had trouble breathing and a few times we considered going to an emergency room, but didn't. Remember this is before Covid was a known thing. Then she slowly lost her entire sense of smell. Either she could not smell or everything smelled like burnt coffee or sickeningly sweet when in fact it did not. For the next six months she had trouble breathing and it took a full year for her smell to return. We went to many Dr's but no one knew why she lost her smell. I am type O+ and she is B+ if it was Covid then O+ tends to have less severe symptoms. To this day she still has some issues with coughing that she never had before but she largely is recovered. We are both in our 40s and otherwise healthy.

 

My theory is this could have been a very early strain of Covid-19. Since then it mutated and become more and more deadly though recent headlines indicate it is now getting less virulent. So if this is correct the virus in some form was around as much as 6 months before what is currently reported as the earliest known case.

Same exact story here. I haven’t left Pattaya for several years, but was frequently around tourists and I was in the same malls, restaurants etc. In April of 2019 I became extremely ill and exhibited the same symptoms as you, including extreme fatigue, cough, sleeplessness, and a brain fog that pretty much put an end to life as normal. I went from lifting weights 3 or 4 times a week, to having difficulty climbing a flight of stairs. I have never been ill with anything remotely resembling this illness. 
About 6 months later, at the supposed beginning of covid, I went to my normally calm and rational Dr. and inquired if maybe I had caught an early version or covid, or something similar, and that I am now what is know as a covid long-hauler. (The virus goes away but many of the symptoms remain).  He disagreed and excitedly told me that taking a test didn’t make sense, and he called me ‘irresponsible’. 
So, here I am, almost 2 years later, living life at about 60%. I’ve had just about every medical test known to my many recently acquired medical specialists, and they all say that I’m very fit. Except for these terrible symptoms.

So, I agree with you that this virus or one of it’s cousins made it’s appearance months before the authorities believe it did.

cheers!

 

[changnaam]

I traveled from Thailand to UK early Dec 2019 and 3 days after returning to UK had a really bad fever, second only to dengue which I had years before. Fever improved and I got the worst cough ever, then when that cleared up and I was back at the gym I couldn’t breathe well for a week.

Thought it was something I picked up on the flight, probably got it at the airport but now convinced it was COVID.

Non of my family in the UK got it, and we didn’t distance as we knew nothing at the time.

[tgw]

On 2/17/2021 at 5:25 PM, Guderian said:

Interesting replies, thanks.

actually yes.

it was around end of December 2019/January 2020, I had what felt as a bad flu and it took 3 weeks to go.

Edited March 14, 2021 by tgw

[cryo]

I was in Pattaya in Feb/March 2019 and was ill when coming back to the UK in March 2019 and thought I may have had covid but since I've been in the UK two of my friends have been infected in May 2019 and they were very ill but got over it and I now know what I had was not anywhere near as bad as covid. Now something to be aware of the two friends have had covid yet have been infected again in February 2021 (husband and wife) and one has recovered after being fairly ill but her husband is at this moment in a high dependency ward and luckily today he wife has informed me he has started to turn the corner and is starting to feel slightly better but still very ill. The hospital had asked my friend for permission to intubate him if he deteriorated further so very serious stuff. It appears the old covid antibody's do not protect you 100% from the new strains so beware thinking that you are protected if you have had a previous episode of covid or think you have. I thought I may be loosing one of my oldest friends over the last week so be very alert and wear your mask and gel your hands because this insidious disease is just waiting for you to get complacent as I suspect my friends were thinking they had immunity.

Edited March 14, 2021 by cryo

[Deli]

Had the symptoms in Feb 2020, might have been a normal flu. Felt like <deleted> for a week, took the regular funny pills and antibiotics. After a week or so I was kindda ok again.

[mancub]

Think there's a fair chance, given the very high incidence of reported cases here being asymptomic and people otherwise unaware of being infected. Routine tests now required for foreigners leaving the Kingdom seem to show up a number of positive cases also. 

[NotYourBusiness]

During early 2019 a flu-like disease swept through Cambodia. My friend had it and he got an oxygen bottle from the hospital to help him breath. He is quite healthy in most respects but he smokes.

If this thread is correct (and I believe it is), then it seems the world survived covid without a lockdown or any other measures. Imagine that.

Edited March 15, 2021 by NotYourBusiness

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, NotYourBusiness said:

If this thread is correct (and I believe it is), then it seems the world survived covid without a lockdown or any other measures. Imagine that.

It is not about the world surviving Covid, but people surviving. 

[NotYourBusiness]

8 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

It is not about the world surviving Covid, but people surviving. 

OK, but tell that to the millions of people who's lifelong businesses have been destroyed by unnecessary lockdowns.

Edited March 15, 2021 by NotYourBusiness

[BoganInParasite]

Well I'm in northern Thailand and about mid-year 2020 decided that I likely had it in the last days of 2019 and into the first week of 2020. Likely got it off a homestay guest from Bangkok that was not well. At the time I thought it was flu, but quite different to the flu I've had three times previously. I had headaches, really bad body aches, fever and shortness of breath. But I did not have coughing, nasal discharge/congestion nor loss of taste nor smell. My belief is that a less severe version of COVID is the one primarily moving through Thailand, and at much higher volumes than the official stats indicate. The body aches and pains basically forced me to stay in bed and thus self isolate from most others. On day 3 the wife found some painkiller in the medicine chest that was 500mg of something and only take one a day...cured the aches and pain. Took it for three days, nothing else. The shortness of breath lasted several months but was less and less over time.

[Aomelia]

November 19 fever for 5 days and dry hacking cough for a month got it in Udon Thani 

Edited March 15, 2021 by Aomelia

[ThailandRyan]

+1 on the OP's views.  My GF and I were also sick last February and it lasted for several weeks, and took a few months before I could actually start to jog and run again without issue.  Yes heavy phlegm, and a persistent deep couch.  Went through 2 packs of Zithromax over a month period of time and used some Robitussin  for the cough and Vicks vapo rub on the chest at bed time.  Many other folks I know had similar issues through February and March of last year as well.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

It is not about the world surviving Covid, but people surviving. 

It is about people in the world surviving, I just wonder how it would have ended up if there were no shutdowns anywhere in the world, and this Chinese virus was treated just like previous ones in 1957 and 1968 when there was no social media or internet.

I understand that the Asian Flu of 1957 had a global death rate of between 2 and 4 million, depending on which reports you read.

[Ventenio]

sorry, new to Earth.

Is Covid when it hurts to pee??????

if so, yes I had it many, many, many times

[sabai-dee-man]

Yes, I believe I've had it, and believe it was before it was "official" too. Late October/early November 2019.

I suffered a persistent dry cough for a year, and still a little now. I suffer lethargy a little, and also struggle to concentrate at times, but definitely improving. All apparently signs/symptoms of Covid.

 

I don't know for sure, but personally I'm convinced I've had it.

[Raphael Hythlodaeus]

ZRT Labs in the US have a COVID19 antibody test.

https://www.zrtlab.com/test-specialties/covid-19-igg-antibody/

I have used ZRT Labs for saliva hormone testing for many years, and they are very efficient, but not this COVID19 test which seems quite fiddly to collect the blood samples.

I would be interested in any local hospital/clinic/lab who provide an antibody test. 

 

[chilly07]

My wife thinks she may have got Wuflu after a trip to a funeral in1 Khampaeng phet in Jan 2020 where there are many Burmese labourers and I think I may have got it now with an intermittent cough and nasel blockage plus laboured breathing and she just returned from a funeral again in Khampaeng phet! She says the hospital in Khampaeng phet is very good and all her deceased relatives went to it and I've told her I'm not moving there!

Edited March 15, 2021 by chilly07

[DefaultName]

There seems to be mounting opinion that it was around, in a less deadly form, for months or even years before the nasty version evolved.  If so, given the sheer number of Chinese visiting Pattaya, it would be surprising if that older version didn't spread here, especially as Chinese tourists aren't the most sanitary of people.

[jacko45k]

5 hours ago, NotYourBusiness said:

OK, but tell that to the millions of people who's lifelong businesses have been destroyed by unnecessary lockdowns.

I will get the widows and widowers and children to do it.

[Cake Monster]

I really dont know about feeling crook in early 2020, but the Missus and I were really sick with symptoms similar to some kind of Viral Infection similar to Covid in November of 2019.

We both had rasping, hacking, continuous coughs, fever , headache and in my case some nausea. This continued for more than a Month, and no amount of Antibiotics would ease this thing, so it was therefore Viral.

Now I dont know ( and never will probably ) if this was Covid, but it was the worst i felt in my entire life, and I am convinced that it was this that indirectly caused a stroke for my Wife a very short while after

Fortunately, were are both well now, but I certainly dont want that particular Virus ever again.

 

[jacko45k]

4 hours ago, possum1931 said:

I understand that the Asian Flu of 1957 had a global death rate of between 2 and 4 million, depending on which reports you read.

So Covid is far worse in a time with far superior medical facilities.

[Guderian]

On 2/17/2021 at 4:46 PM, Guderian said:

Meanwhile, around two weeks ago, my niece’s father-in-law, who’s well into his 80’s, fell over at home and the paramedics said it was best to check him out in hospital, so off they went. And yes, within a week he also had the virus, but the lucky guy is asymptomatic, he doesn't even know that he’s got the virus.

Just to show that Murphy's Law is still working fine, my niece's aged father-in-law, whom I mentioned in the OP and who got Covid in hospital but was asymptomatic, had an MRI scan to see if they could find what caused his fall. I just heard from my brother back in the UK that the MRI scan found that he has terminal bowel cancer and isn't expected to last the month out. Isn't that just typical, 88 and apparently immune to Covid, but then the Big C gets him. If there's an all-powerful deity running the universe, then it really has got a strange sense of humour.

[peterrabbit]

I posted this last year about catching a strange flu like illness in November 2019 ( It has now been confirmed that Covid was spreading in China in October 2019)

 

[Rimmer]

An off topic post has been removed also some duplicates and replies