Trump seeks return to spotlight with address to conservative meeting

[donnacha]

27 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

55555....you can't be serious.

Yeah, of course, I was joking.

Everyone should, though, chill and have more of a sense of humor about him. If the problem was that he was in power, well, he no longer is.

The irony is that the hard left's continuing obsession with him, clearly evident even here on ThaiVisa, is keeping his power alive. The media cannot live without him, they keep pumping out these articles. This is actually how he got elected in the first place.

It staggers belief that, more than a month after the transfer of power, there are still far more articles and online discussions about Trump than the actual president. It wouldn't surprise me if this continues for the entire 4 years.

This is a dangerous game because, of course, it is not guaranteed that everything will go well for Biden, or that Kamala will find a way to get the 2024 voters to like her. Allowing Trump to continue dominating the public imagination could backfire. 

[Berkshire]

3 minutes ago, donnacha said:

Yeah, of course, I was joking.

Everyone should, though, chill and have more of a sense of humor about him. If the problem was that he was in power, well, he no longer is.

The irony is that the hard left's continuing obsession with him, clearly evident even here on ThaiVisa, is keeping his power alive. The media cannot live without him, they keep pumping out these articles. This is actually how he got elected in the first place.

It staggers belief that, more than a month after the transfer of power, there are still far more articles and online discussions about Trump than the actual president. It wouldn't surprise me if this continues for the entire 4 years.

This is a dangerous game because, of course, it is not guaranteed that everything will go well for Biden, or that Kamala will find a way to get the 2024 voters to like her. Allowing Trump to continue dominating the public imagination could backfire. 

I understand your point, but I don't see any "continuing obsession" with Trump.  He's been in the news because of the very recent impeachment trial.  In fact, it's mostly the GOP who've given life to Trump, whether it's McConnell ignoring him or Gaetz licking his boots, or Haley...well, we're not sure what she's doing.  The real story is the GOP fracturing into two factions, not necessarily just Trump.

[Eric Loh]

51 minutes ago, donnacha said:

After his time off, you might all be pleasantly surprised by a wiser, more contemplative Trump.

Hard to be wiser when Trump in a cognitive decline for years according to Bannon. In fact, cognitive decline is irreversible. Just hope he still know how to put on his trouser one feet at a time. 

[donnacha]

3 hours ago, Berkshire said:

The real story is the GOP fracturing into two factions, not necessarily just Trump.

Maybe. We don't really know what the effects will be two years and four years down the road.

We can probably agree that the impeachment, being clearly politically-driven, forced the Republicans into defending Trump, whereas pretty much every one of them would have voted for a censure. That actually would have ended Trump politically.

So, the dems have more-or-less guaranteed that Trump remains in control of the party. That might be what they were aiming for but, as I say, they are playing a dangerous game, especially if the economic recovery does not go well, and if they cannot find a vaguely likable candidate for 2024 (they do actually have some great people).

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by onthedarkside
trolling reference removed

[stevenl]

24 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

I understand your point, but I don't see any "continuing obsession" with Trump.  He's been in the news because of the very recent impeachment trial.  In fact, it's mostly the GOP who've given life to Trump, whether it's McConnell ignoring him or Gaetz licking his boots, or Haley...well, we're not sure what she's doing.  The real story is the GOP fracturing into two factions, not necessarily just Trump.

In addition, I also hardly see any hard left here on TVF

[Berkshire]

Steven's right, I hardly ever see hard left types on TV.  The only time they were really vocal was during the democratic primary.  The Bernie Bro's were out in force and in some ways, they were very much like Trump supporters.  Hardcore believers who didn't want to listen and were quite hostile. 

Edited February 22, 2021 by onthedarkside
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[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

There is zero chance he will ever get better. He always gets worse. 

don't lose hope in the hopless

[Neeranam]

1 hour ago, Berkshire said:

I understand your point, but I don't see any "continuing obsession" with Trump.

Because the guy they hate has been beaten, there is no need for them to obsess anymore. 

[bendejo]

1 hour ago, donnacha said:

After his time off, you might all be pleasantly surprised by a wiser, more contemplative Trump.

 

Is this your idea of a Susan Collins impersonation?  A quote from January 2020:

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Collins said "I believe that the President has learned from this case" and that Trump "will be much more cautious in the future."

Susan Collins' beyond-laughable explanation for her impeachment vote

 

[ballpoint]

19 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

don't lose hope in the hopless

Spoken like a true Trump supporter.

[KarenBravo]

Can't win a primary without Trump backing.

Can't win a presidential election with Trump backing.

 

The Republicans are caught in a forked stick..........and they themselves made the forked stick.

[Nout]

7 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The GOP gets its very own embarrassing old uncle.

 

 

Very amusing given the Dems very own embarrassing uncle.LOL

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Nout said:

Very amusing given the Dems very own embarrassing uncle.LOL

False equivalence.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Nout said:

Very amusing given the Dems very own embarrassing uncle.LOL

You mean the one who defeated Trump in the election despite Trump’s efforts to prevent Democrat voters voting.

 

There’s no ‘Democrat’ embarrassment in that at all.

[Nout]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You mean the one who defeated Trump in the election despite Trump’s efforts to prevent Democrat voters voting.

 

There’s no ‘Democrat’ embarrassment in that at all.

And there is the embarrassment factor. The brass necked hypocrisy of criticizing Trump and ignoring the many faults of Biden.

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, Nout said:

And there is the embarrassment factor. The brass necked hypocrisy of criticizing Trump and ignoring the many faults of Biden.

That you even try to suggest Biden's faults are on a level anywhere near trump's is just......

[Nout]

He's a fighter! He's a scrapper. He terrifies the woke left. Great to see him back.

[Berkshire]

4 minutes ago, Nout said:

He's a fighter! He's a scrapper. He terrifies the woke left. Great to see him back.

55555....too funny.  He terrifies Republicans more than any Democrat.  And he's not back.  He's never coming back.  Trump is a loser and will forever be a loser. 

[candide]

22 minutes ago, Nout said:

And there is the embarrassment factor. The brass necked hypocrisy of criticizing Trump and ignoring the many faults of Biden.

Is Biden pushing ridiculous conspiracy theories? I did not know that!

[welovesundaysatspace]

16 minutes ago, Nout said:

He's a fighter! He's a scrapper. He terrifies the woke left. Great to see him back.

The big question is: Will he bring the clowns car with Rudy and Sidney again or just make a fool of himself alone? And: Did he use the time out to rehearse “woman man computer TV” to perfection? 
 

 

Edited February 22, 2021 by welovesundaysatspace

[Sujo]

47 minutes ago, Nout said:

He's a fighter! He's a scrapper. He terrifies the woke left. Great to see him back.

And he lost bigly.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Nout said:

He's a fighter! He's a scrapper. He terrifies the woke left. Great to see him back.

I see him more a word that rhymes with scrapper.

I'm sure it warms the cockles of his "heart" to know that he still has some loyal fans.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Nout said:

He's a fighter! He's a scrapper. He terrifies the woke left. Great to see him back.

He lost.  He lost bigly.

 

You have my sincere best wishes in your struggle to come to terms with those two facts

 

[onthedarkside]

A name calling post and several trolling posts have been removed.

 

[Sujo]

29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I see him more a word that rhymes with scrapper.

I'm sure it warms the cockles of his "heart" to know that he still has some loyal fans.

But not as many donors.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/21/republican-donors-aim-move-party-away-trump-influence

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4 hours ago, donnacha said:

Yeah, of course, I was joking.

Everyone should, though, chill and have more of a sense of humor about him. If the problem was that he was in power, well, he no longer is.

The irony is that the hard left's continuing obsession with him, clearly evident even here on ThaiVisa, is keeping his power alive. The media cannot live without him, they keep pumping out these articles. This is actually how he got elected in the first place.

It staggers belief that, more than a month after the transfer of power, there are still far more articles and online discussions about Trump than the actual president. It wouldn't surprise me if this continues for the entire 4 years.

This is a dangerous game because, of course, it is not guaranteed that everything will go well for Biden, or that Kamala will find a way to get the 2024 voters to like her. Allowing Trump to continue dominating the public imagination could backfire. 

Really? Remember a fella named George W. Bush. 2 disasters occurred on his watch: the 2nd  Iraq War and the near-collapse of the US economy. So, naturally his current favorability ratings stayed really low, right?

George W. Bush has turned his unpopularity upside down.

Six in 10 Americans, 61%, say they now have a favorable view of the 43rd President of the United States in the latest CNN poll conducted by SSRS, nearly double the 33% who gave him a favorable mark when he left the White House in January 2009.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/george-w-bush-favorable-poll/index.html

 

Of course, Bush knows how to behave politely and decently in public. That and the tendency for bad memories to fade over time has helped him immensely. It's apparent that Trump is incapable of behaving politely and decently. So reporting on his behavior should help keep his favorability low and the memory of his dismal record strong.

 

[Sujo]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Really? Remember a fella named George W. Bush. 2 disasters occurred on his watch: the 2nd  Iraq War and the near-collapse of the US economy. So, naturally his current favorability ratings stayed really low, right?

George W. Bush has turned his unpopularity upside down.

Six in 10 Americans, 61%, say they now have a favorable view of the 43rd President of the United States in the latest CNN poll conducted by SSRS, nearly double the 33% who gave him a favorable mark when he left the White House in January 2009.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/22/politics/george-w-bush-favorable-poll/index.html

 

Of course, Bush knows how to behave politely and decently in public. That and the tendency for bad memories to fade over time has helped him immensely. It's apparent that Trump is incapable of behaving politely and decently. So reporting on his behavior should help keep his favorability low and the memory of his dismal record strong.

 

Gwb also had the grace to welcome clinton and stayed away from commenting.

 

He also grew because trump was so bad.

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1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Gwb also had the grace to welcome clinton and stayed away from commenting.

 

He also grew because trump was so bad.

I think you're referring to George H.W., George W.'s father.

[Eric Loh]

With confirmed speakers like Pompeo, McFarland, Pete Hegseth, Jon Voight, DJ Jr, Pam Bondi, Charlie Kirk, Ron De Santis, Sarah H Sanders, Larry Kudlow, it looks a facist gathering to announce the formation of a neo-con extreme right party. Hail to the chief and click your heels. US is heading towards a deep divide.   

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5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

With confirmed speakers like Pompeo, McFarland, Pete Hegseth, Jon Voight, DJ Jr, Pam Bondi, Charlie Kirk, Ron De Santis, Sarah H Sanders, Larry Kudlow, it looks a facist gathering to announce the formation of a neo-con extreme right party. Hail to the chief and click your heels. US is heading towards a deep divide.   

Not neo-con, who were very prointervention and loathe Trump. But why form a new party? This is the real face of the Republican party now and has been for years. It's just that previous candidates and presidents knew who to dissimulate.