Thailand says Russia agrees to supply Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine

[herfiehandbag]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Wait a second. Are you saying they're accountable to how people feel? Who knew?

Not accountable, but they know that their narrative as to how Thailand will save it's own people by entirely relying on it's own vaccine production has been comprehensively discredited, and the (largely unreported) protests by the youngsters continue.

 

Perhaps some fundamental orifices amongst the dinosaurs are going" sixpence, half a crown, sixpence, half a crown, sixpence, half a crown,"?

[The Hammer2021]

4 minutes ago, Dogmatix said:

 

In the best case the Sputnik sent to Thailand might turn out to contain only saline solution.  In the worst case it might be a dangerous concoction that causes strokes like the Sinovac.

Duly reported as trolling and disinformation

[The Hammer2021]

2 hours ago, internationalism said:

sinovac was not cheap, 650b per vial for the first batch 2mln.

Thai have ordered another 2mln.

at $21 per vial it's more expensive, as many other ones.

But thailand has no choice, has to buy anything and for any price.

They waited far too long.

So I won't be surprised if they pay also over $20 for sputnik. Blame thailand for not planning for the future waves and new strains 

Like everybody else planned ahead and factored in new strains?

[boogiewoogie]

19 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The problem being this is another vaccine without fully published phase 3 results, the same as Sinovac. The results we have for Sputnik are interim only, so still to be published and then reviewed. 

 

Currently here is a review summary carried out by a large number of Universities and specialists around the world.

 

Concerns with the Sputnik V vaccine data

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n743/rr-1

 

 

Ur links are months old. They already went thru phase 3 and now claiming effectiveness is even higher.

[rabas]

23 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

The problem being this is another vaccine without fully published phase 3 results, the same as Sinovac. The results we have for Sputnik are interim only, so still to be published and then reviewed. 

 

Currently here is a review summary carried out by a large number of Universities and specialists around the world.

 

Concerns with the Sputnik V vaccine data

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n743/rr-1

From your link:
 

"The unusual and improbable high homogeneity of the vaccine efficacy across age strata and different interim analyses raises concerns about the data reported. "

 

When Russia mentioned 92% right after AZ first mentioned 90%, improbable was the word that came to mind.

 

Edited April 22, 2021 by rabas

[Bkk Brian]

2 minutes ago, boogiewoogie said:

Ur links are months old. They already went thru phase 3 and now claiming effectiveness is even higher.

Even higher than 91% wow!! Excellent!

 

Where is the published final phase 3 data link please?

 

WHO also appear to be waiting for it? https://extranet.who.int/pqweb/sites/default/files/documents/Status_COVID_VAX_07April2021.pdf

[Amdesign]

53 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sputnik is clearly being used by Russia as a propaganda tool but if it's safe and effective sign me up. Face it if we're in Thailand we need to trust the Thai health authorities to judge on that whether its Sputnik  Astrazenica, or anything else. So you bare your arm you take your chances. If I do get Sputnicked it won't magically make me love Putin though.

I am vaccinated by Sputnik, and many people I know. Never heard about side effects.

 

Regarding 'propaganda': if You go to Moscow, everything is open for many months - shops, restaurants, karaoke, public transport, etc. all businesses are open. You only have to wear mask in public transport and in enclosed public spaces. Not like in EU countries going through constant lockdowns. Why? Because vaccination is widely available, it is independent from foreign suppliers, it costs about 700Baht per jab (free for retired and social groups), government advertises vaccination widely. 2 jabs are required, 3 weeks between them. They deployed mobile vaccination centers, they are even in shopping malls...

 

The advantage of Russian vaccine is: does not need to be stored/transported at very low temperatures.

 

As to 'Slovakia issue' with Sputnik, this is dirty political games and competition. Mass media noise, no proofs. Why Russia would risk reputation to supply substandard vaccines, for what purpose??

[Caldera]

That's good news. Hopefully it will materialize, and soon.

[rabas]

5 minutes ago, boogiewoogie said:

Ur links are months old. They already went thru phase 3 and now claiming effectiveness is even higher.

 

A paper published March 21, 2021 discussing possible fraudulent claims is months old? 

 

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

I am vaccinated by Sputnik, and many people I know. Never heard about side effects.

 

Any real world data on that?

[rabas]

7 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

I am vaccinated by Sputnik, and many people I know. Never heard about side effects.

 

Regarding 'propaganda': if You go to Moscow, everything is open for many months - shops, restaurants, karaoke, public transport, etc. all businesses are open. You only have to wear mask in public transport and in enclosed public spaces. Not like in EU countries going through constant lockdowns. Why? Because vaccination is widely available, it is independent from foreign suppliers, it costs about 700Baht per jab (free for retired and social groups), government advertises vaccination widely. 2 jabs are required, 3 weeks between them. They deployed mobile vaccination centers, they are even in shopping malls...

 

The advantage of Russian vaccine is: does not need to be stored/transported at very low temperatures.

 

As to 'Slovakia issue' with Sputnik, this is dirty political games and competition. Mass media noise, no proofs. Why Russia would risk reputation to supply substandard vaccines, for what purpose??

 

Had a long talk with a good friend in Moscow yesterday. His story is very different than yours. He slipped on ice a couple of weeks ago and badly needs an X-ray and MRI, but says he doesn't dare go to a hospital until they can get covid under control.  Same Moscow?

 

 

 

[Bkk Brian]

12 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

As to 'Slovakia issue' with Sputnik, this is dirty political games and competition. Mass media noise, no proofs.

Sounds like a statement from Russia denying their dope fixing at the Olympics

[surangw]

that must pay the best kick- backs 

[Bkk Brian]

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Nearly two thirds of Russians are not willing to receive Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine,

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-poll-idUSKBN2AT2XK

 

No problem, the Thai's will buy it off you

[Amdesign]

7 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Had a long talk with a good friend in Moscow yesterday. His story is very different than yours. He slipped on ice a couple of weeks ago and badly needs an X-ray and MRI, but says he doesn't dare go to a hospital until they can get covid under control.  Same Moscow?

 

I was in Moscow 2 weeks ago, there was no any ice already... ????????

[Amdesign]

2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Nearly two thirds of Russians are not willing to receive Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine,

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-russia-poll-idUSKBN2AT2XK

 

No problem, the Thai's will buy it off you

Yes, one can 'trust' Reuters. Very reliable source about Russia... ????????

[Amdesign]

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Sounds like a statement from Russia denying their dope fixing at the Olympics

Tell this to the asthmatics - the Norwegian ski team ????

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

Yes, one can 'trust' Reuters. Very reliable source about Russia... ????????

Thailand says Russia agrees to supply Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-thailand-idUSL4N2MF2CJ

 

Ops sorry you can't trust that from Reuters!! 

 

What is a credible source for Russian news in English in your opinion that backs up your claims on this vaccine?

 

Please also go ahead and give us the published data web link on final phase 3 trials, obviously this would be in English

Edited April 22, 2021 by Bkk Brian

[2 is 1]

Thailand can get all Az vaccine , EU announce not going to buy that anymore. Was still oder 100 million more dose. So be quik Prayut.

[JamieM]

[Amdesign]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

What is a credible source for Russian news in English in your opinion that backs up your claims on this vaccine?

 

Please also go ahead and give us the published data web link on final phase 3 trials, obviously this would be in English

I don't have to give You any 'data on phase 3 trials', anyway me or You can't interpret the results, we are not bio science experts. The experts have it and they work with it. By now Sputnik is adopted in over 60 countries.

 

The vaccination is ongoing You like it or not. And it works.

 

P.S. Vaccination passports are issued, too - through Russian government services portal. I just applied for one yesterday.

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Amdesign said:

I don't have to give You any 'data on phase 3 trials', anyway me or You can't interpret the results, we are not bio science experts. The experts have it and they work with it. By now Sputnik is adopted in over 60 countries.

 

The vaccination is ongoing You like it or not. And it works.

 

P.S. Vaccination passports are issued, too - through Russian government services portal. I just applied for one yesterday.

Because there are no final phase three results yet.

 

It may well work but final data is needed. We also do not need to interpret the results, its reviewed by specialists when published.

 

When its approved by WHO I will be happier but they are also still waiting for all the data and have not even yet set a date for a decision.

[2 is 1]

5 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

I don't have to give You any 'data on phase 3 trials', anyway me or You can't interpret the results, we are not bio science experts. The experts have it and they work with it. By now Sputnik is adopted in over 60 countries.

 

The vaccination is ongoing You like it or not. And it works.

 

P.S. Vaccination passports are issued, too - through Russian government services portal. I just applied for one yesterday.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00191-4/fulltext

 

Here if some want read.

[Jingthing]

A vaccine without any side effects is suspect. A reaction indicates that it's working. Of course nobody wants dangerous side effects.

[Amdesign]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

A vaccine without any side effects is suspect. A reaction indicates that it's working. Of course nobody wants dangerous side effects.

Well, some people can feel slight fever 1-2 days after vaccination, this happens with Sputnik sometimes (not with anyone I know).

But not blood clots or paralysis, like some other vaccines.

[Bkk Brian]

20 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

Well, some people can feel slight fever 1-2 days after vaccination, this happens with Sputnik sometimes (not with anyone I know).

But not blood clots or paralysis, like some other vaccines.

Without real world data we have yet to see on that. Sputnik is an adenovirus type vaccine, same as AstraZeneca, Sinovac and J&J

Edited April 22, 2021 by blackcab
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[Amdesign]

Here is the official website of Sputnik V (not 'Reuters' or other propaganda stuff).

Study and enjoy, about trials:

https://sputnikvaccine.com/about-vaccine/clinical-trials/

[Amdesign]

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Without real world data

There is sufficient real world data, millions are vaccinated.

But don't look for this 'data' in biased western media... ????

[rabas]

14 minutes ago, Amdesign said:

I don't have to give You any 'data on phase 3 trials', anyway me or You can't interpret the results, we are not bio science experts. The experts have it and they work with it. By now Sputnik is adopted in over 60 countries.

OK, but the bio science experts said the earlier data was "improbable".

 

Concerns with the Sputnik V vaccine data

https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n743/rr-1

 

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, Amdesign said:

Here is the official website of Sputnik V (not 'Reuters' or other propaganda stuff).

Study and enjoy, about trials:

https://sputnikvaccine.com/about-vaccine/clinical-trials/

From your link: "COVID-19 vaccine: an interim analysis of a randomised controlled phase 3 trial in Russia"

 

Same as the link before a few posts above.