Thailand reports daily record of over 2,000 COVID-19 cases, 4 new deaths

[vandeventer]

3 hours ago, smedly said:

really ?, do explain

Try lack of testing!!!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

"Out of the 262 ICU beds in #Bangkok, there are only 69 left. Health officials estimate that they will run out in 6-8 days if the rate of infection continues as it is. Nationwide, there are only 1,000 beds. Enough for only another 19 days"

 

It would appear the ICU room numbers for Bangkok being referenced above roughly equate to this chart produced by the Ministry of Public Health a few days ago.. The ICU bed numbers are noted by the red highlight:

 

 

 

[rabas]

29 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Uk conducting nearly 1,000,000 tests a day, Thailand 15,000 ish. Thai infections appear to be 10% of all those tested. Quite obvious to me now that Thailand's great numbers are a complete untesting farce and based on keeping numbers low that way - after all they just quoted ability to test 20 odd million a day. So unless they have no tests they are just limiting them

 

One year after the pandemic the Thailand testing numbers are pathetic. 

It may be surprising to learn that until the recent UK strain outbreak, Thailand's testing strategy exceeded many countries including the UK based on international WHO recommendations to adjust testing to track positive cases. Under this system as positive cases go up, authorities raise tests to bring their ratio back down. 

 

This graph compares Thailand's performance with the UK. Lower is better. Thailand was hit with the UK strain because the UK failed to contain their outbreak and limit mutations.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

[Antonymous]

1 hour ago, Osthos said:

 

Most of the fatalities so far in the 20-40 range have been people with obesity. 

 

Time to lay off the processed foods, sugar, and carbs, return to a more traditional diet.

 

Exactly. And the 29yo female who was the unfortunate death #120 since the start of Covid at the beginning of last year was reported on the Thai Govt website as obese. As far as I can tell from the reports the vast majority of fatalities have been very old and all but a few of the deaths have been people with pre-existing conditions that put them at high risk with Covid.

 

Being fat is surely the easiest unhealthy condition that we all can fix.

[ThailandRyan]

1 hour ago, Amdesign said:

Tell this to factories which have closed down, and families left without income...

Test on arrival will help to bring illegal migration under control, and allow businesses to function.

They do test on arrival and then quarantine.  Where do you get your information from.

[Megasin1]

57 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

How can they have 10,000 ventilators but only 1,000 ICU beds? 

its a matter of logistics, you can have thousands and thousands of ventilators but they are little more than dust gatherers if you don't have appropriately trained staff to administer them. I also recall that during the first pandemic in UK there were serious issues around oxygen supply in that you can only plug in so many ventilators and then the pressure drop off renders them useless. Generally hospitals are not built along the lines that nearly every bed will use oxygen at the same time so the statement that they have 1000 icu beds could be true as well as having 10000 ventilators and the real urgent action required could be to start training up more icu nurses, a lot more, and actually creating icu field hospitals rather than stacks of beds in a hall. It is very easy for a countries health system to be overwhelmed by this disease due to the demand it causes on both human and material resources for the serious cases so that is the number that is really worrying and obviously with an increase at the base of the pandemic, ie those least affected, sadly the serious case number load also expands.

[Bkk Brian]

A bit more on the ventilator stock. The Health Dept says they have 10,000 available, however as I mentioned before, not all ventilators are the same. I've just found an article from last year where they stated the actual number of ventilators suitable for covid that Thailand has throughout the country is just 200! I'm presuming they've bought some more?

 

Its an interesting article but in the Bangkok Post, published on 16th April 2020 and called" The coming Storm" by Boon Vanasin, chairman of Thonburi Healthcare Group

 

The ventilators need to be able to trap air without spreading the virus.

[2 is 1]

1 hour ago, RichardColeman said:

Uk conducting nearly 1,000,000 tests a day, Thailand 15,000 ish. Thai infections appear to be 10% of all those tested. Quite obvious to me now that Thailand's great numbers are a complete untesting farce and based on keeping numbers low that way - after all they just quoted ability to test 20 odd million a day. So unless they have no tests they are just limiting them

 

One year after the pandemic the Thailand testing numbers are pathetic. 

Yeah! Infections should be under 1% from tested! Also they havent tell one important number (they dont know), to how many other person infected one transmit virus!

[Cake Monster]

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

I do feel a little uneasy with not only the numbers going up and the deaths rising as they have, but also getting concerned with the new Indian variant being found in Belgium, the UK and hoping to hell it has not snuck in the back door here.  I do not feel confident with Anutin and his cronies at the helm.  They really do need to start listening to the doctors in regards to the way things really are.  With all of those hospitalized as well as on ventilators the medical community here will soon be taxed. I would like to see the viral pneumonia cases listed again so we can see just what kind of an uptick there may also be their as well.

 

Of the four that died one was a 29 year old that apparently had no previously disclosed medical problems.  That is also very concerning.

Anutin and the rest of the Goons that are making this show seem so pathetic, not only need to listen to the Doctors within Thai Borders.

They need to put on a pair of Earphones, and connect with the rest of the World.

Many Countries throughout the World have been, and are going through this, and have a whole wealth of information and expertise that could be tapped into.

What would seem apparent, is that Covid is well and truly here in LOS, and its time for the powers that be to step up to the mark, and frankly ...man up

 

[ThailandRyan]

48 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

You cannot report an R number unless you have a good understanding of progress of infections, and you cannot do that without mass testing to all that come

Ergo why I have always ran with the "If you don't test you have no idea of the true numbers" Montage.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Province by province details from Friday's new domestic COVID cases report, along with the prior day's report for comparison purposes (excludes those cases of travelers who tested positive in quarantine):

 

The provinces are listed in the order arranged by the Ministry of Public Health, which reflects a ranking based on the total number of COVID cases (not listed in the charts) by each province since the start of the pandemic.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 23, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[chang1]

3 hours ago, Amdesign said:

8 of 2070, or only 0.39% of infections are from abroad. This means, risk from international arrivals is marginal, compared to domestic cases.

 

Why not open the country for business travellers, without quarantine? At this stage, all import/export/manufacturing businesses suffer from unability to travel (unless one is not a street noodle shop). I am not talking about tourism, I am taloking about all other buisinesses.

 

 

Have you not heard about the S. Africa or Brazilian strains? They are even worse than the UK variant. They could stop our holiday plans for another year here in the UK. Any travel to or through "red zone" countries will still mean a hotel quarantine here at your expense even if we open up.

[BestB]

this time round, government has no one else to blame but themselves and should either step down or pay out of their pockets.

 

did not have to be an expert or even half brain dead to figure out they had to lockdown red zones in BKK instead of leaving it open and allowing people to travel in and out and then interprovincial as well.

 

Then, instead if locking down the red zones, idiots closed down bars as if this would prevent people from travelling from closed bars to near by open bars.

 

Absolute and total farkup caused by the government and no one is held accountable

[ThailandRyan]

10 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

 

Exactly. And the 29yo female who was the unfortunate death #120 since the start of Covid at the beginning of last year was reported on the Thai Govt website as obese. As far as I can tell from the reports the vast majority of fatalities have been very old and all but a few of the deaths have been people with pre-existing conditions that put them at high risk with Covid.

 

Being fat is surely the easiest unhealthy condition that we all can fix.

Being healthy and in shape doesn't always save you.  It can't hurt but to blame someone for being obese is a misnomer.  BMI is not a good indicator of true health.  Look at the "Rock" his BMI because of his weight and size would indicate he is obese but he is not.

 

Why Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson Is Technically Obese (menshealth.com)

 

So please stop with being fat is unhealthy

[Antonymous]

2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Being healthy and in shape doesn't always save you.  It can't hurt but to blame someone for being obese is a misnomer.  BMI is not a good indicator of true health.  Look at the "Rock" his BMI because of his weight and size would indicate he is obese but he is not.

 

Why Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson Is Technically Obese (menshealth.com)

 

So please stop with being fat is unhealthy

 

If you look like The Rock good on yer.

 

Otherwise please stop with unreasonable excuses for being fat.

[BestB]

1 minute ago, ThailandRyan said:

Being healthy and in shape doesn't always save you.  It can't hurt but to blame someone for being obese is a misnomer.  BMI is not a good indicator of true health.  Look at the "Rock" his BMI because of his weight and size would indicate he is obese but he is not.

 

Why Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson Is Technically Obese (menshealth.com)

 

So please stop with being fat is unhealthy

sadly but true, i was a wanna bodybuilder, had the 6 pack, 170 height 92kg weight, was told by insurance companies that i am overweight and fat. because BMI does not fit into their criteria of being fit. 

 

But keep in mind, there is a big difference between being fat with high body fat percentages and being fat by BMI  standards. Ones who are actually fat with high body fat percentages often will also have many other health issues such as high cholesterol, possibly kidney or liver problems, heart problems, sugar and more. Same does not apply to those who are high BMI, but low body fat percentages

[dogfish180]

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

International and regional COVID comparison charts released today by the Thai Ministry of Public Health, ranking countries based on total numbers of reported cases. Thailand continued to rank 105th in the world based on its total number of cases.

 

 

And probably 105th in number of tests conducted ????????

[ThailandRyan]

21 minutes ago, Antonymous said:

 

If you look like The Rock good on yer.

 

Otherwise please stop with unreasonable excuses for being fat.

Stop with the unreasonable comments Dr.

 

Jim Fixx was a runner in what he thought was excellent health who ran every day yet died while running. Underlying health conditions he was unaware of killed him. Not everyone is perfectly healthy.

Edited April 23, 2021 by ThailandRyan

[joecoolfrog]

3 hours ago, Amdesign said:

There are real production businesses involving technical on-site inspections, trials, testing, tuning, maintenance, warranty etc. plus participating in exhibitions. Not the Zoom businesses. All these suffer from the current sutiation, in fact many projects are frozen.

 

Indian variants will come here from Mynamar migrants. And one can't track it as there is no control.

Your company is losing money , correct ?

[mick01827]

4 hours ago, Henryford said:

Obvious this was going to happen after Songhran. Have a party in Bangkok then travel all over Thailand duh !

They had to let songkran go ahead, thats the excuse to justify the numbers????????????

[Magenta408]

It's stronger than me but I always have to ask what in heck does banning alcohol have to do with a flu?

[smedly]

3 hours ago, Amdesign said:

Quarantine and entry restrictions would have been reasonable 1) at early days of pandemia when no one knew waht is happening or 2) if Thailand was an island. Now is too late, local transmission is 1000s time higher than imported cases. So why keep killing the economy by the entry restrictions?

 

you need to try and keep up mate.

 

It is emerging that there are variants that current vaccines are ineffective, it is not about Thailand opening up to let tourists in it is about whether people either want to come to Thailand or would be allowed to come from their home countries while Thailand would emerge as a "Covid Hub" if they were to just open up as you suggest

 

Their ineffective vaccine rollout is well behind the curve and to be quite honest is an embarrassment for a country that claimed not so long ago to be the "medical hub of Asia" it is not something I would want to publish and brag about as they are doing right now.

 

There is only one thing these leaders are interested in and that is money - either by not spending it on the people and things that need it or stuffing as much of it into their corrupt pockets as they can as fast as they can.

 

What was the ridiculous statement the Health minister made a few days ago about which vaccine company's Thailand would partner with like as if the world was begging in some huge bidding war for Thailand to allow them in - flicking  deluded nonsense, and just today another statement from our highly intelligent health minister -   Pfizer is likely to deliver 10 million doses of its COVID-19 vaccine but the arrival has yet to be scheduled - what the flick does that even mean - the man is an idiot 

[Denim]

Meanwhile , In India , a country only separated from Thailand by Burma ,

there were 332,730 cases reported on Friday ( a new world record ) and 2263 deaths.

 

More worryingly are reports of a double mutant variant .

 

Looks like the end of the covid tunnel is a long way off yet and the situation in Thailand is still a lot better than in other countries ............so far.

[joecoolfrog]

40 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

They do test on arrival and then quarantine.  Where do you get your information from.

Pravda and RT

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

https://www.facebook.com/ThaiPBSWorld/posts/4342584772453486

 

 

[smedly]

2 hours ago, Nismooo said:

Also Thailand does not have the same resources as the european countries. 

 

Thailand has the money and resources - they just don't want to spend it on the people. Record foreign reserves that they don't want to touch because it would drive the baht down 

 

 

The UK is testing one million people per day - how many is Thailand testing ?????, I rest my case

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

https://www.facebook.com/nbtworld/posts/10157968458337050

 

 

[Sametboy2019]

4 hours ago, dcsw53 said:

Is this because the new strain is more infectious, or a sign that the current measures are not working ? If the numbers rise next week again, that cannot be blamed on Songkran travel and shows a deeper problem. With the government's inability to source and accredit vaccines ( unless you are a hiso ) the signs aren't good.

Of course it can be blamed on songkran. Songkran finished on the 15th but people didn't need to be back home until the Sunday 18th. 

Symptoms can take up to 14 days to show. That coupled with the people who were being infected by the people travelling home oblivious to knowing they are infected any maybe still shows that until mid may we won't really know how bad this outbreak will be.

[Yewbzee]

I was starting to panic a bit there with regards to these increasing case numbers and then I read the bit where they have prohibited the sale of alcohol in restaurants. Thats a relief, Im sure that will stop this thing in its tracks.

[smedly]

2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

The difference between your company and my company is obvious. We worked internationally supporting Hotel security and casino security by doing on site investigations throughout all of SE Asia and back in Nevada.  When the pandemic hit many Hotels, Casino's closed up, shut down and canceled contracts.  Not much can be done as far as managing a sinking ship where there was no business to be had.  Fortunately, I learned to invest in my own company instead of taking the profits and upon closing down had plenty of funds to cover everything needed.  To open up as you continually propose would destroy your business in it's entirety, time for you to look inward and have a deep introverted look at what is really important.  Covid has changed the playing field for us all.

 

What he is suggesting would be like selling tickets to board the titanic as it was sinking - while everybody else is scrambling to save themselves 

 

Yeah - I've never been on a sinking ship before give me one of those tickets - I'll pay 10x the price for the pleasure