Pregnant woman, 32, confirmed as one of 11 deaths from COVID-19

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Image: Reuters file photo

 

A 32 year old pregnant woman was confirmed as one of the patients who died after testing positive for COVID-19, the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) said on Sunday.

 

A total of 11 deaths were reported, the highest number of deaths from COVID-19 reported in Thailand in a single day. 

 

Ages of the deceased announced on Sunday ranged between 27 and 70, but most victims were aged in their 30s. 

 

The 32 year old woman was a resident of Bangkok and was 25 weeks pregnant, a CCSA spokesperson said during Sunday’s briefing. 

 

She reported a high fever and a cough on April 8, tested positive for the virus on April 15 and died on April 23. An investigation into her death is ongoing.

 

The other victims all had pre-existing health conditions, including obesity, diabetes, gout, high blood pressure, hyperlipidemia and chronic kidney disease.

 

CCSA also said that 507 people remain in a critical condition in hospital, while 138 are on ventilators. 

 

Also on Sunday it was confirmed that 547 people had recovered from the virus, bringing the total number of recoveries to 31,113.

 

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[ThailandRyan]

Sad, that it took her life. Now her family will be mourning for two. The mother and unborn child.  The article does not say anything about the unborn baby, so my summation would be they were unable to save the baby as well.

[toofarnorth]

13 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

Sad, that it took her life. Now her family will be mourning for two. The mother and unborn child.  The article does not say anything about the unborn baby, so my summation would be they were unable to save the baby as well.

Yes , very sad , old blokes like me at 74 have had a good run for our money but she was too young , far too young .

[KhunBENQ]

17 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:

so my summation would be they were unable to save the baby as well.

Would have been difficult anyway, 25 weeks only, about 6 months.

[asiacurious]

23 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Ages of the deceased announced on Sunday ranged between 27 and 70, but most victims were aged in their 30s. 

 

It sure seems as though the virus strain in Thailand is effecting younger people much more than is typical with the original or UK strain.  Much more like the Brazilian strain or something new.

 

The biggest problem right now is the slow vaccination rollout (and vaccine hesitancy in the same parts of the world where many maskholes reside).  Delaying vaccinations gives time for new variants of the virus to develop and take hold.  New virus strains can:

• have a longer asymptomatic phase
• be easier to catch
• last longer
• cause more severe symptoms
• result in more deaths among all age groups

[Bkk Brian]

Oh dear, tragic news, rest in peace both of you, the family must be distraught. I just hope the death was not painful for her and she passed away in peace.

[tomazbodner]

Not going to call him a friend, as he isn't, but let's say acquaintance... had his second son born a few months back, after his wife caught COVID about 3 weeks before giving birth.

 

Newborn was diagnosed with "cancer of nerve cells" (translated this, not sure if there's a better name in English) and received 2 chemotherapy treatments already.

 

As such, even if they could save the baby, there is no guarantee that effect of this infection would not derail its chances in life later.

 

Wonder how common such consequences are...

[bkk6060]

Terrible and sad many stories like this all over the world.

Just a disgusting  virus.

[Sundown]

Tragic news but...I wonder if before 2020 30 years old people never died? Just asking..

Edited April 25, 2021 by Sundown

[tifino]

... and the original article seems to have avoided any mention  of:

 - whether she had (or Not) the 'vax' prior...

 - or whether she had earlier been in close proximity to a Vaxxed husband?? after reading widely what International Drs are now warning about on the television news... 

 

[cocoonclub]

3 hours ago, tifino said:

... and the original article seems to have avoided any mention  of:

 - whether she had (or Not) the 'vax' prior...

 - or whether she had earlier been in close proximity to a Vaxxed husband?? after reading widely what International Drs are now warning about on the television news... 

 

Where I come from: 
1. Pregnant women don’t get the vaccination; but 
2. Their husbands can skip the queue to get it. 
 

Based on that, I would assume she also didn’t get any vaccination, and that a vaccinated husband would not have increased her risk. 

Edited April 25, 2021 by cocoonclub

[Danderman123]

3 hours ago, Sundown said:

Tragic news but...I wonder if before 2020 30 years old people never died? Just asking..

You sound like the defense attorney for a murderer:

 

"You Honor, I know that it appears that my client killed the victim, but, in reality, everyone dies, so what's the big deal?"

 

[zhounan]

Some cases of young death happening also in Europe.

 

Had the poor girl recently been vaccinated? I hope the news will be transparent about this detail.

Edited April 25, 2021 by zhounan

[Dogmatix]

So sad. Definitely pregnant women are high risk.

[asiacurious]

4 hours ago, Sundown said:

Tragic news but...I wonder if before 2020 30 years old people never died? Just asking..

 

59 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You sound like the defense attorney for a murderer:

 

"You Honor, I know that it appears that my client killed the victim, but, in reality, everyone dies, so what's the big deal?"

 

Sounds more like a defendant who insists on defending himself.

[Sundown]

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

You sound like the defense attorney for a murderer:

 

"You Honor, I know that it appears that my client killed the victim, but, in reality, everyone dies, so what's the big deal?"

 

 

Well, if you can prove that no 30 y.o. pregnant woman has ever died due to high fever before covid era, then we can consider the possibility that she died for covid. Until then, we can say that she died, and tested positive to Corona.  Why they didn't test her for example to Cytomegalovirus? Or to HHV-1? Or HHV-3?

 

Maybe she was positive to all these 4 viruses. So now, what she died for?

[Danderman123]

38 minutes ago, Sundown said:

 

Well, if you can prove that no 30 y.o. pregnant woman has ever died due to high fever before covid era, then we can consider the possibility that she died for covid. Until then, we can say that she died, and tested positive to Corona.  Why they didn't test her for example to Cytomegalovirus? Or to HHV-1? Or HHV-3?

 

Maybe she was positive to all these 4 viruses. So now, what she died for?

You seem to have a loose connection with Real Life here: medical examiners and other medical personnel have a fairly good ability to diagnose Covid-19. In normal medical practice, the physician will make an educated diagnosis, then order tests, and if the tests support the diagnosis, then treat the patient accordingly.

 

What doesn’t happen is diagnosis of disease that don’t coincide with patient’s condition. You know, like HHV-1, when the patient has no signs of it.

That would be idiotic.

Edited April 25, 2021 by Danderman123

[KhaoYai]

8 hours ago, Sundown said:

Tragic news but...I wonder if before 2020 30 years old people never died? Just asking..

For god's sake man, give it a rest - I know what you're getting at. Covid deniers are not welcome here - even those who try to veil their wording.

 

Two young lives have been lost - one not even born!

 

Preach your rubbish elsewhere - preferably somewhere like Dehli right now - I'm sure you will find lots of people willing to listen.

 

Hopefully the moderators will recognise your veiled comments.

 

Edited April 25, 2021 by KhaoYai

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

The other victims all had pre-existing health conditions, including obesity, diabetes, gout, high blood pressure, hyperlipidemia and chronic kidney disease.

The post said most victims were in their 30's, looking at the above pre-existing symptoms Thailand is going to be in for rough ride if most people are in that category.

[robblok]

17 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

Not going to call him a friend, as he isn't, but let's say acquaintance... had his second son born a few months back, after his wife caught COVID about 3 weeks before giving birth.

 

Newborn was diagnosed with "cancer of nerve cells" (translated this, not sure if there's a better name in English) and received 2 chemotherapy treatments already.

 

As such, even if they could save the baby, there is no guarantee that effect of this infection would not derail its chances in life later.

 

Wonder how common such consequences are...

Shttttt.... the deniers only count deaths.. they don't look at the damage that can be done by the virus. They want people to believe its a flue. So if you get it and you don't die its ok its nothing to worry about.

 

No problems that some have lung problems, cant smell and taste, that others have chronic tiredness and that it can take many months to recover. 

 

Its best not to mention these things ore else the deniers will throw hissy fits as only deaths count and according to them it only kills the elderly and sick nobody else got anything to worry about. The lasting health problems of many should be mentioned.

[realfunster]

6 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

For god's sake man, give it a rest - I know what you're getting at. Covid deniers are not welcome here - even those who try to veil their wording.

I don’t agree with what he is getting at but believe in his right to free speech.

 

Feel free to make him look an idiot with reasoned arguments. Just shutting him down doesn’t achieve anything.

 

I would propose there is a spectrum of views around COVID not just two opposing and polarized camps of ‘believers’ or ‘deniers’ - would you agree ?

 

I believe history has taught us that shutting down thought and opinion, and developing groupthink can have some pretty dire consequences. 

 

Anyhow, if we are going to shut down thought and opinion, please kindly advise which supreme power will be the arbiter of such matters and provide a list of ‘approved’ opinions, so I can keep myself out of trouble. 

 

 

[Sundown]

8 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

For god's sake man, give it a rest - I know what you're getting at. Covid deniers are not welcome here - even those who try to veil their wording.

 

Two young lives have been lost - one not even born!

 

Preach your rubbish elsewhere - preferably somewhere like Dehli right now - I'm sure you will find lots of people willing to listen.

 

Hopefully the moderators will recognise your veiled comments.

 

Why not get me to walk with a star on the chest , burn a serial number on my skin and put me in a shiny friendly re-education center? 

 

Ps: in 2016 the mortality rate in Delhi spiked by +11%. That's way worse then Corona. Did you pray for Delhi in 2016? 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2021 by Sundown

[Caldera]

That's saddening news. From other countries, I've also seen reports that this mutant can be much more dangerous to relatively young people as well.

[robbioff]

21 hours ago, toofarnorth said:

Yes , very sad , old blokes like me at 74 have had a good run for our money but she was too young , far too young .

Did she receive the vaccine? 

[Excel]

Just now, robbioff said:

Did she receive the vaccine? 

Unless she was a HISO or from the government elite I doubt it. 

[KhaoYai]

8 hours ago, realfunster said:

I don’t agree with what he is getting at but believe in his right to free speech.

As far as I know, posts that deny Covid, anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theories are not allowed on this forum.  To the best of my knowledge Thaivisa does allow free speech but has its limits. In the case of posts conating covid denials and anti-vaccine messages, I believe they are banned because of the damage they can do through potential influence.

 

The poster I am refering to is sailing very close to the wind with his comments. In my opinion he has tried to get his point across (covid denial) by not directly stating such a position - although it is clear to me what his underlying message is.

 

I am not in a position to block him or delete his posts - that is the job of the moderators but just as you say he is entitled to free speech, that also applies to me calling him out on his veiled message doesn't it?

 

You may note that in his subsequent posts, the subject member has not denied what he was getting at.

Edited April 26, 2021 by KhaoYai

[KhaoYai]

8 hours ago, realfunster said:

I would propose there is a spectrum of views around COVID not just two opposing and polarized camps of ‘believers’ or ‘deniers’ - would you agree ?

No I don't agree. Covid 19 is factual and has killed over 3 million people worldwide - deniers manipulate figures to suit their twisted views and in doing so, sometimes convince others.

 

Case in point, last year a friend sent me an official looking 'news' item that she'd received on social media which stated that the woman who was the first to receive the Astra Zeneca vaccine as part of the initial trial had died.  I've learned not to trust everything I read on social media so did a quick Google on the subject and found it was a total lie - the woman produced a video showing she was alive.

 

We may think that everybody checks things out that they read but some don't - my friend was taken in by the story and was considering not having her vaccine when it was offered.  In a Pandemic, the potential for harm through speading false information is very significant.  If the only harm done is to the believer, then it could be said 'up to them' but if in turn they spread the misinformation which harms others - what is that?

 

I believe in free speech but I also believe that there are times when circumstances require it is limited - there are plenty of places where conspiracy theorists can talk freely and propogate their ideas all day long.

Edited April 26, 2021 by KhaoYai

[Sundown]

4 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

As far as I know, posts that deny Covid, anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theories are not allowed on this forum.  To the best of my knowledge Thaivisa does allow free speech but has its limits. In the case of posts conating covid denials and anti-vaccine messages, I believe they are banned because of the damage they can do through potential influence.

 

The poster I am refering to is sailing very close to the wind with his comments. In my opinion he has tried to get his point across (covid denial) by not directly stating such a position - although it is clear to me what his underlying message is.

 

I am not in a position to block him or delete his posts - that is the job of the moderators but just as you say he is entitled to free speech, that also applies to me calling him out on his veiled message doesn't it?

 

You may note that in his subsequent posts, the subject member has not denied what he was getting at.

Instead of running to the moderators crying because I stole your candies you should just learn to read the news. Nowhere is said that she died for coronavirus. It says that she tested positive to coronavirus and her death is being investigated. What if she exercised under the rain, got a fever and died for her weak immune system? We don't know... And the doctors are investigating. So why you want to convince us she died for covid when even the news and medics don't say so?

[Danderman123]

38 minutes ago, Sundown said:

Instead of running to the moderators crying because I stole your candies you should just learn to read the news. Nowhere is said that she died for coronavirus. It says that she tested positive to coronavirus and her death is being investigated. What if she exercised under the rain, got a fever and died for her weak immune system? We don't know... And the doctors are investigating. So why you want to convince us she died for covid when even the news and medics don't say so?

This lady was counted in the official statistics of Covid deaths, so you are barking up the wrong tree.

 

She was under treatment for Covid19 symptoms, so you will have to make something else up to support your Denier claims.

[KhaoYai]

1 hour ago, Sundown said:

Instead of running to the moderators crying

I haven't run to the moderators at all, given the time difference I would think they read your post long before I did.  Nobody here has to run anywhere - its a fully moderated forum.