Course Changed! Government says private sector has no need to order vaccines

[webfact]

 

By Cod Satrusayang

 

Thailand’s government, through the Thai Chamber of Commerce, said late Wednesday that the private sector and hospital groups have no need to order vaccines on their own as the government would be able to provide for all vaccine needs.

 

Thai Enquirer reported on Wednesday that private sector requests for the government to countersign vaccine acquisition orders were being ignored by the public health ministry.

 

The lack of government action came despite criticisms from opposition and coalition politicians over the lack of movement on vaccines and the government’s stonewalling of the private sector’s request.

 

Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/26993/course-changed-government-says-private-sector-has-no-need-to-order-vaccines/

 

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[ThailandRyan]

Who would have queesed another Flop from the last flip.  This government must be full of gymnysts.

[DLock]

That crazy Czar.

 

One can only guess the logic, but my guess is a combination of face-saving when the hospitals import more than the Government and offer efficient service, and of course, money.

 

Will the Government sell to the hospitals...or will the Government be the only option?

 

I doubt this will go down well, and perhaps another back-flip is in order.

[lom]

The fear that the private sector will buy a better vaccine.

[Fex Bluse]

7 minutes ago, webfact said:

Thailand’s government, through the Thai Chamber of Commerce, said late Wednesday that the private sector and hospital groups have no need to order vaccines on their own as the government would be able to provide for all vaccine needs.

 

More perfect examples of Thailand's unique incompetence. And, some people here STILL believe the country somehow actually expertly managed the earlier waves. Get real. They've been the same incompents as always. There was no magic before. There was only cover-up, propaganda and maybe some luck.

[grantbkk]

So they have sourced enough vaccine for every Thai citizen but what about the 200,000 or so expats in the country.  Personally i do not want the less effective vaccine from the government. I would like to have a choice that I would gladly pay for at a private hospital.

Edited April 29, 2021 by grantbkk

[Litlos]

Someone realised if bought privately there are no kickbacks coming for government personnel.  There was an excellent opinion piece in the paper that shall not be named from a university professor on why Thailand did not join in the Covax group, with the Covax option pricing was transparent. No option for brown bags to the correct people.  Otherwise why is delivery so slow to Thailand of vaccines?

 

Cheers 

[Surelynot]

Yep....face saving......imagine all the private enterprises getting their act together and suddenly supplying the vast majority of the vaccines.........whilst Anutin then has to explain why Siam BoiScience has been left dead in the water....

Edited April 29, 2021 by Surelynot

[kotsak]

The usual "holier than thou" crapola again..

[Mr Meeseeks]

You are not allowed to compete or challenge, as Thaksin found out to his cost.

 

There can be only one.

[Rimmer]

A grammar police post has been removed

[grantbkk]

I Just called the Ministry of Public Health.  Lady said as a White dude I would be able to get the vaccine as soon as all Thais had been vaccinated.  She said if I wanted to do it sooner I should find a private hospital that will have the vaccine and pay for it myself. She may be onto something or didn't get the most recent memo from last nights meeting.  I can't believe I got through on the telephone.

[cyril sneer]

20 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Yep....face saving......imagine all the private enterprises getting their act together and suddenly supplying the vast majority of the vaccines.........whilst Anutin then has to explain why Siam Boitech has been left dead in the water....

could be this

 

or a disagreement over how much % of the private vaccine money would go to particular people

[Surelynot]

7 minutes ago, grantbkk said:

I Just called the Ministry of Public Health.  Lady said as a White dude I would be able to get the vaccine as soon as all Thais had been vaccinated.  She said if I wanted to do it sooner I should find a private hospital that will have the vaccine and pay for it myself. She may be onto something or didn't get the most recent memo from last nights meeting.  I can't believe I got through on the telephone.

So that will be late 2022 I would imagine......and Uncle has just flip-flopped and banned private vaccinations.......time to go home I feel.

[Surelynot]

1 minute ago, cyril sneer said:

could be this

 

or a disagreement over how much % of the private vaccine money would go to particular people

Quite possible ....sadly.

[Fromas]

Dumb doesn't begin to describe this!

[Enzian]

Got an email from Kaiser in Oakland that if I were there they could vaccinate me right now (being over 80 probably matters). CA is having about the same number of new cases per day as is Thailand currently (this surprised me), with 40 million population to Thailand's 70 million. But CA is still having roughly 50 new deaths per day, but it's definitely going down. So if the vaccine delay persists in Thailand, then the only reason to not leave for CA is the difficulty I would encounter returning to BKK, assuming I even wanted to. I yesterday bid goodbye to an American friend who is departing for SoCal mainly to replenish his bank account; he's hoping to return in November.

[holy cow cm]

We all know the reason. The good Thai people need to find new strength to get them all out.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, lom said:

The fear that the private sector will buy a better vaccine.

On the other hand they might just fear that the private sector will end up with inferior vaccines.

 

Stick 'fake covid 19 vaccines' into your search engine and see how many hits you get!

[LomSak27]

Thank God!

 

I was worried but now looks like everything is hunky dory. Any other ideas regarding other vaccines are wrong and sadly a misunderstanding.  
 

 

Play Again?

Edited April 29, 2021 by LomSak27

[mtls2005]

Natives would get restless if upper classes and foreigners could get/pay for a "good" vaccine.

 

Not surprising that prayuth reversed course.

[Patong2021]

The hysteria and delusional claims I read here is embarrassing.  Please take deep breath and calm down. There is no conspiracy, and no plot to profiteer.  Thailand will do what  UK, EU, Australia, Israel, UAE and many others will do - Purchase through the one representative, the MoH/Government.

 

1 hour ago, lom said:

The fear that the private sector will buy a better vaccine.

From who?  When did Pfizer, Jansen and Moderna start selling on open market?  Where do you expect the better vaccine to come from if ALL production has  already been purchased for at least the next 6 months. The only way the better vaccines will be distributed outside EU and USA is if they are allowed to go, and that isn't going to happen for some time. You think Japan will let someone grab its 120 million doses on order? No one in the EU is going to let go their Pfizer doses. The EU already tried to take the Pfizer destined to Canada and they nearly had a retaliatory trade war start.

 

1 hour ago, grantbkk said:

So they have sourced enough vaccine for every Thai citizen but what about the 200,000 or so expats in the country.  Personally i do not want the less effective vaccine from the government. I would like to have a choice that I would gladly pay for at a private hospital.

 

Ok. No one would argue against you, but the other vaccines you want are not available. The Astra Zeneca vaccine that Thailand will rely on has proven effective in the UK and Canada where it has been used under reliable reporting.  

[Andy from Kent]

 

I do hope private hospitals will be allowed to buy the vaccine.

 

I'd be happy to pay  for the chance to avoid getting this scourge.

[connda]

Course Changed! Government says private sector has no need to order vaccines

And the Truth now is rolled out into the light of day.  This was always about cornering the market and establishing a monopoly.  There will be no other option for the commoners except to take the jab produced by the monopoly.  So if you wanted a different vaccine?  So sad, too bad. 
Cha-ching!
Change my mind!

[WHansen]

The smiling assassins stick the blade in whilst saying "don't worry" in a calm and soothing whisper

[GarryP]

7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The hysteria and delusional claims I read here is embarrassing.  Please take deep breath and calm down. There is no conspiracy, and no plot to profiteer.  Thailand will do what  UK, EU, Australia, Israel, UAE and many others will do - Purchase through the one representative, the MoH/Government.

 

From who?  When did Pfizer, Jansen and Moderna start selling on open market?  Where do you expect the better vaccine to come from if ALL production has  already been purchased for at least the next 6 months. The only way the better vaccines will be distributed outside EU and USA is if they are allowed to go, and that isn't going to happen for some time. You think Japan will let someone grab its 120 million doses on order? No one in the EU is going to let go their Pfizer doses. The EU already tried to take the Pfizer destined to Canada and they nearly had a retaliatory trade war start.

 

 

Ok. No one would argue against you, but the other vaccines you want are not available. The Astra Zeneca vaccine that Thailand will rely on has proven effective in the UK and Canada where it has been used under reliable reporting.  

So there was actually no necessity to change the policy, as according to you private hospitals would not be able to source alternative vaccines anyway. 

[connda]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Thai Enquirer reported on Wednesday that private sector requests for the government to countersign vaccine acquisition orders were being ignored by the public health ministry.

Why don't the average citizens believe their governments?
Because their governments will tell bold face lies, and then will renege, and then tell bold face lies about telling bold face lies.

It was published over, and over, and over again as well as clearly stated by Prayut:  The government is not impeding or meddling in private hospital's efforts to obtain vaccine imports.  That!  That was clearly a deliberate lie in order to get them to exactly this point without public outcry.

We live in a sad-a**ed world where so-called "leaders" are devoid of an inner moral compass.  It's all about two things: Money and Power. 
The commoners be da*med.  The well-being of the majority of the public be da*med.
"Let them eat Creat!"  No choice for you plebs.  Mask-up, shut-up, and bow-down.  Your betters have spoken.

[cocoonclub]

19 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

There is no conspiracy, and no plot to profiteer. 

Whatever the reasons are or could be; I agree that’s pure speculation. It doesn’t change the result though, which is shít. 
 

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Thailand will do what  UK, EU, Australia, Israel, UAE and many others will do - Purchase through the one representative, the MoH/Government.

I can only comment on the EU: They secured enough jabs, from all major producers, not the Chinese ones. Where do you see that that is what Thailand will be doing? 

 

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From who?  When did Pfizer, Jansen and Moderna start selling on open market?  Where do you expect the better vaccine to come from if ALL production has  already been purchased for at least the next 6 months. The only way the better vaccines will be distributed outside EU and USA is if they are allowed to go, and that isn't going to happen for some time. You think Japan will let someone grab its 120 million doses on order? No one in the EU is going to let go their Pfizer doses. The EU already tried to take the Pfizer destined to Canada and they nearly had a retaliatory trade war start.

So now you’re saying the government won’t be able to secure the jabs that you claimed in the paragraph before it would be securing? 
 

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The Astra Zeneca vaccine that Thailand will rely on has proven effective in the UK and Canada where it has been used under reliable reporting.  

What you gonna tell females under 60 years old, who are better off taking an mRNA vaccines because of the risk of blood clots? 
 

 

Edited April 29, 2021 by cocoonclub

[internationalism]

the third time private import was forbidden.

chances of getting vax for foreigners this year is around zero

[connda]

1 hour ago, grantbkk said:

I Just called the Ministry of Public Health.  Lady said as a White dude I would be able to get the vaccine as soon as all Thais had been vaccinated.  She said if I wanted to do it sooner I should find a private hospital that will have the vaccine and pay for it myself. She may be onto something or didn't get the most recent memo from last nights meeting.  I can't believe I got through on the telephone.

In this messed up country, the right-hand has no idea what the left-hand is doing.  Your options for a selection of vaccines has probably been removed from the table for good by a czar supporting a monopolist who seems to need to amass more money than could spend in multiple life-times.  That need for greed, to me, is both unfathomable as well as unconscionably. 

This will eventually take on Marie Antoinette proportions before the end of the year imho and the messages to the masses will be:
"Let them eat Creat."

Humanity for these people are nothing but resources to be harvested, live-stock to be consumed, wealth to be expropriated.  Nothing more.
They are humanity-crushing moral derelicts.