28 minutes ago, jonclark said:

We are all in this together but, there are far far more Thais that have exactly the same perilous situation that you speak of, but economically are in a far worse situation. That is not a justification, just an observation. 

 

Then should the Thai government give shots to them, instead of 20 year old military recruits?

Hmmmm. I'm not sure how ''we'' would feel if, when in our own country ''if'' -- during a virulent epidemic -- we found that ''foreigners'' were being given priority with vaccination (with a vaccine in very short supply) over ''us nationals''?

 

On reflection, I think we'd be pretty ''peed-off'' with our government for letting such a situation happen!

 

Yet here, so many ''foreigners'' -- many retirees, some long-stayers, some working and paying taxes -- consider they have the same rights as nationals! The Thai government are giving priority for nationals with underlying health conditions at the moment. ''Eventually'', they will give foreigners the vaccine.

 

[I just wish I was confident that no corruption will be involved!]

Just now, Surelynot said:

What makes you think a state run hospital will vaccinate a foreigner?

Becuase they treat foreigners if you can pay, for other ailments. Why would thy refuse? If there is an adequate supply for vaccine, there should be no problem. The problem now is supply. When supplies are ramped up there should be no problem.

 

This is what you can expect from the xenofobic minister. All other counties vaccinate all its inhabitants, no question about origin. And many of us expat pay tax to Thailand. But for Anutin that count for nothing.

On the other hand the dirty foreigners have vaccinated Thais citizens for free in the UK and USA weeks ago, race and nationality should not be a consideration anywhere, but they are here in the land of racists.

3 minutes ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

Hmmmm. I'm not sure how ''we'' would feel if, when in our own country ''if'' -- during a virulent epidemic -- we found that ''foreigners'' were being given priority with vaccination (with a vaccine in very short supply) over ''us nationals''?

 

In the US, they were.

3 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Becuase they treat foreigners if you can pay, for other ailments. Why would thy refuse? If there is an adequate supply for vaccine, there should be no problem. The problem now is supply. When supplies are ramped up there should be no problem.

 

If you read the thread it says when there is a surplus of vaccines......not when they are available.

3 hours ago, redwood1 said:

Do farangs come before Soi Dogs?

If you don’t like it, go back home!  No reason to complain. What did you think was going to happen? I really don’t understand some expats that think they should have the same rights as Thai people. 

"when there is a surplus" 

Gee I hope it's Pfizer or J&J ????

Racism in its splendor.  Wonder how would they feel if it happens to them when living in western county.  

1 hour ago, JCauto said:

Including their Socialist neighbours, Laos and Cambodia. LOL!

Cambodia & Phillipines started their rollout back in February, each with a donation of 600K doses from China.

Indonesia and Laos are also getting large consignments from China.

Thailand is not a lot different from their neighbours.

 

3 minutes ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

Hmmmm. I'm not sure how ''we'' would feel if, when in our own country ''if'' -- during a virulent epidemic -- we found that ''foreigners'' were being given priority with vaccination (with a vaccine in very short supply) over ''us nationals''?

 

On reflection, I think we'd be pretty ''peed-off'' with our government for letting such a situation happen!

 

Yet here, so many ''foreigners'' -- many retirees, some long-stayers, some working and paying taxes -- consider they have the same rights as nationals! The Thai government are giving priority for nationals with underlying health conditions at the moment. ''Eventually'', they will give foreigners the vaccine.

 

[I just wish I was confident that no corruption will be involved!]

 

I do not know where you are from, but in my home country (Norway) it would be totally incorrect to think like that. We want to practise that all residents are equal with the same access to public health care.

 

 

1 minute ago, Surelynot said:

Who says so? vaccines are not being released to hospitals......and will not be until Thais are vaccinated......each vaccine sold to a hospital is a vaccine not going into the arm of a Thai.

 

Expats get vaccinated when there is a surplus 

 

Mate, I am not going to try to change your mind as you mind is fixed. You see yourself (and other expats) as victims of a xenophobic government who are withholding and prevent foreigners from getting vital vaccinations. 

 

That is not the case. Vaccinations are very limited, currently only those in immediate risk of contracting co vid are being vaccinated. Their need is greater than yours. In time that will change, there will be enough vaccines to go around and by the end of the year you too will have had your jab. 

 

Remember that at this point in time there are literally tens of millions of Thais who have not been vaccinated just like you. They all need to wait as well.  

 

FYI  - Many of the migrant workers (aka foreigners) in Samut Sakorn have already been vaccinated free of charge by the government.  

 

Have a lovely day and stay safe. 

Just now, Petchou said:

Racism in its splendor.  Wonder how would they feel if it happens to them when living in western county.  

Western country gives them citizenship after a few years so they have equal rights, no discrimination. 

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

If you read the thread it says when there is a surplus of vaccines......not when they are available.

"They would be able to get jabs when there was a "surplus". "

There is NO surplus.

Thais are bookign it fast, and if not all allocated yet, it will be soon. There would be no real surplus until production has been ramped up.

Just now, Geir Rasch said:

 

I do not know where you are from, but in my home country (Norway) it would be totally incorrect to think like that. We want to practise that all residents are equal with the same access to public health care.

Even if those are tourists who don’t contribute taxes and so forth?

Do you REALLY need confirmation that falangs are, and NEVER will be, accepted??????

 

and yet we stay, and keep doing the 90-day reports.....

 

Imagine back home...... this would be soo backwards and against all we believe in.    

 

and yet we stay

1 minute ago, jonclark said:

 

 

 

Mate, I am not going to try to change your mind as you mind is fixed. You see yourself (and other expats) as victims of a xenophobic government who are withholding and prevent foreigners from getting vital vaccinations. 

 

That is not the case. Vaccinations are very limited, currently only those in immediate risk of contracting co vid are being vaccinated. Their need is greater than yours. In time that will change, there will be enough vaccines to go around and by the end of the year you too will have had your jab. 

 

Remember that at this point in time there are literally tens of millions of Thais who have not been vaccinated just like you. They all need to wait as well.  

 

FYI  - Many of the migrant workers (aka foreigners) in Samut Sakorn have already been vaccinated free of charge by the government.  

 

Have a lovely day and stay safe. 

It's the wording. Thais first and farang when there is a surplus and we all know what year that will be 

7 minutes ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

Hmmmm. I'm not sure how ''we'' would feel if, when in our own country ''if'' -- during a virulent epidemic -- we found that ''foreigners'' were being given priority with vaccination (with a vaccine in very short supply) over ''us nationals''?

 

On reflection, I think we'd be pretty ''peed-off'' with our government for letting such a situation happen!

 

Yet here, so many ''foreigners'' -- many retirees, some long-stayers, some working and paying taxes -- consider they have the same rights as nationals! The Thai government are giving priority for nationals with underlying health conditions at the moment. ''Eventually'', they will give foreigners the vaccine.

 

[I just wish I was confident that no corruption will be involved!]

So let's take the UK......eventually they will start to vaccinate low risk groups 20-40 years old, through to the end of this year........and the UK, lets say, has a large contingent of elderly, retired foreigners at high risk and dying on a regular basis from covid..........you let them die because they are not British...tell them to go home....tell them tough get on with it???

49 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Someone posted they are already contracted for some of the production to be exported.

Yes they have an obligation to export part of the production, but then so did the UK,EU and India and look what happened. Thailand is still waiting for deliveries of AZ that are now well overdue.

Thank God for HCQ and Ivermectin. Can't understand the fuss over an unproven, experimental vaccine that will not be proven for at least 2 years.

 

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/australian-embassy-snubs-aussie-expats-but-australia-donates-68-million-baht-for-thailands-vaccine-efforts.                   Australia donates 68 million baht to Thailand to assist with vaccination program. Australian expats told by Australian embassy in Thailand they won't be included.

Am I surprised at this U turn 

On expats now not qualifying for the Vaccine same as the Thai people

A big No

Will wait until advised to use the Private Hospitals when the vaccine comes available 

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Yet more said they would wait until they could pay for a vaccination at a private hospital where they may get a choice of VAX. 

And that is the GOOD news ....read it as :

Free choice of jab by paid service ....????

 

i am not demanding for free .....but i like to have choice of vaccine .....????

30 minutes ago, DavisH said:

Then you would just go to a government hospital and get the jab there, at a less inflated price. 

I think you've missed my point.

 

It could well be that Government hospitals or mass vaccination facilities will not allow their vaccines to be used on foreigners?

13 minutes ago, Ventenio said:

Do you REALLY need confirmation that falangs are, and NEVER will be, accepted??????

 

and yet we stay, and keep doing the 90-day reports.....

 

Imagine back home...... this would be soo backwards and against all we believe in.    

 

and yet we stay

 

Yes, I stay, because I'm indifferent to the double standards. I do dislike and complain about immigration's rule changes. But as for the rest, the weather is fine, I enjoy the scenery, life has less stress overall. And I don't care what, if anything, some Thais may think of me. From the beginning I've accepted the fact farangs would be unlikely to get this vaccine until very late in the game. I've done so with equanimity, because I learned much earlier during my time here that as much as you complain, those in charge will just say, "no, so sorry" and wai. You will not win. The one entity I am outright angry with is the callous US embassy and its deafness on this issue.

Looks like some people thinks that because they can register for a jab they will get one. Registering and getting are two different things. It is somewhere very normal own people first.

5 minutes ago, madmitch said:

I think you've missed my point.

 

It could well be that Government hospitals or mass vaccination facilities will allow their vaccines to be used on foreigners?

not allow?

My friend when to the government hospital today and registered no mention of Thais first  

22 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

What makes you think a state run hospital will vaccinate a foreigner?

Would getting a free flu jab at Chonburi count?