DaveC Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, KarenBravo said: "and then bought Japan rejects (at a bargain price) and that is the only reason non working expats were even offered a vaccination. " Got any evidence that this vaccine was rejected by Japan because of defects? Or, was it just excess? Not because of defects. The Japanese were worried about the blood clotting and had to either accept or reject because the Use By Date was approaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANSIAM Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, DaveC said: That is an improvement on the website. At least they are now trying to give a reason. Non immigrant 1 year was the correct selection. Dept. of Employment is a new angle which I had not heard of. Immigration have the capability of accessing your application and can reset (delete) your current form. My advice would be to allow 2 days maximum and then off to Immigration. Thailand sold all their AZ overseas for profit and then bought Japan rejects (at a bargain price) and that is the only reason non working expats were even offered a vaccination. My understanding is that it has now run out (except for allowance for 2nd doses). The hospitals are telling people who wish to purchase that nothing is available until October (unless of course you are a French citizen). Follow up - I went to Orchid Karon in person this morning, gave the lady at the desk my passport and said issues with online registration "I do not have a work permit" she took my passport to the doctor came back and said come back July 3 (she will be working then) - 9am for AZ. Interesting, looks like I have a verbal vaccination appointment Saturday, she also stated immigration has been getting involved at times checking entry and visa status for foreigners. I'll be sure to check the Use by Date ! Jesus Christ......... Edited June 30, 2021 by CANSIAM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveC Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, CANSIAM said: Follow up - I went to Orchid Karon in person this morning, gave the lady at the desk my passport and said issues with online registration "I do not have a work permit" she took my passport to the doctor came back and said come back July 3 (she will be working then) - 9am for AZ. Interesting, looks like I have a verbal vaccination appointment Saturday, she also stated immigration has been getting involved at times checking entry and visa status for foreigners. I'll be sure to check the Use by Date ! Jesus Christ......... That is an encouraging update. Unfortunately the extra messages showing for non approved applications on phuket.win are meaningless because you are unable to check or edit your input. The only possible verification is entering the erroneous Passport Number. Edited June 30, 2021 by DaveC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldcpu Posted June 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, DaveC said: At least they are now trying to give a reason. Non immigrant 1 year was the correct selection. Dept. of Employment is a new angle which I had not heard of. Immigration have the capability of accessing your application and can reset (delete) your current form. My advice would be to allow 2 days maximum and then off to Immigration. Further to what I learned about the acquaintance whose Thai wife had to go to Phuket immigration a couple times, to sort his vaccine registration - I learned something salient. It turns out his last permission to stay in Thailand (based on a Visa he obtained a VERY long time ago), was not in Phuket province, but in another Thailand province. However he has a place in Phuket, where at present time he and his wife were staying. So Phuket immigration had zero record of him in Phuket, which is why his registration for the vaccination failed - and why his wife ended up having to go to Phuket immigration to help clear up and have his vaccine registration processed. 4 hours ago, DaveC said: Thailand sold all their AZ overseas for profit and then bought Japan rejects (at a bargain price) and that is the only reason non working expats were even offered a vaccination. My understanding is that it has now run out (except for allowance for 2nd doses). The hospitals are telling people who wish to purchase that nothing is available until October (unless of course you are a French citizen). I confess I don't have the same interpretation you have on this. Japan donated (not sold) millions of doses of AstraZeneca across Asia, and not just to Thailand, donating to Indonesia (1-million), Malaysia (1-million), the Philippines (1-million), Taiwan (2.24 million), Vietnam (1-million) and Thailand. They donated it because they decided not to use it themselves due to the blood clot concerns their population had. These were donations to Thailand (not some bargain price purchase - there was NO price), and Thailand only had to pay for the transportation costs of around 10-99 million yen (2.9 million to 28.7 million baht). Thailand signed an agreement with Japan for 1-million donated doses of AstraZeneca, with vaccines to be delivered around 8 and 9 July, which is long after the date which many have us have already received our first dose. ie the vaccines from Japan haven't even arrived yet - so we as expats were not (yet) vaccinated with doses from Japan. Maybe our 2nd jab will be. However there are not 1-million expats in Phuket so clearly there is more to this Thailand donation receipt than just using Japanese donated doses for Phuket expats. My Thai wife has a mid-80s aunt (Thai) who had her first AZ jab a few weeks ago, with her 2nd jab of AZ scheduled for the 2nd week of September. She has lived in Thailand all her life and is not an expat. She may also benefit from this Japanese donation. Further, the the mass vaccination drive that started this month in Phuket relies heavily on AstraZeneca shots produced locally by Siam Bioscience. Yes, Siam Bioscience vaccine production experienced some delays, where those delays also impacted Thailand long since contracted deliveries to Taiwan, Malaysia and the Philippines. Note Thailand has had an agreement for a long time to provide AstraZeneca to Taiwan, Malaysia and the Philippines, so its not as if Thailand just now concocted a scheme to give foreigners Japanese Astra Zeneca donations and make money off of those countries. I have references for all of the above from Thai news sources, but don't want to belabor this too much. I too have to fight a tendency to be cynical at times, although in this case, maybe I am a bit less cynical - and in this case I confess I tend to follow the immortal words of "Odd Ball" from Kelly's Heros: "Have a Little Faith". ???? ???? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveC Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Thank you oldcpu for your detailed information and clarification. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANSIAM Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 I just heard from a friend, who's friend is a French citizen living in Kathu, she just received a JJ jab at Bangkok Hospital Phuket. The lucky French !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 9 hours ago, CANSIAM said: I just heard from a friend, who's friend is a French citizen living in Kathu, she just received a JJ jab at Bangkok Hospital Phuket. The lucky French !!! I also heard someone swear that Bangkok Hospital has vaccines and you can pay and get it right away....!!!!? I advised against it as I heard there are a lot of scams now and also many clinics and hospitals take the money and reserve a jab for like next week, but say next week again when people turn up...., so it will be interesting if this story is true, and they actually have , right now, a real, unexpired, unspolit and approved Covid vaccine ( not a seasonal flu jab...555)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pagallim Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Agusts said: I also heard someone swear that Bangkok Hospital has vaccines and you can pay and get it right away....!!!!? I advised against it as I heard there are a lot of scams now and also many clinics and hospitals take the money and reserve a jab for like next week, but say next week again when people turn up...., so it will be interesting if this story is true, and they actually have , right now, a real, unexpired, unspolit and approved Covid vaccine ( not a seasonal flu jab...555)... Bangkok Hospital (and Siriroj) opened this morning for applications to receive either one or two Moderna vaccinations. They won't be available until circa October or so, with a recommended 4 weeks between doses. There were major IT problems when they opened on-line and it took 90 minutes or so before people could actually register. It then closed for applications shortly afterwards. Many angry people questioning the organisation of this roll out, and remember, this is paying up front for something that isn't available yet. Given all of this, I think the prospect that Bangkok Hospital "has vaccines and you can pay and get it right away....!!!!?" is complete BS. I have not doubt that there may be those related or connected to people of influence in the medical field who can perhaps obtain the unobtainable, but the chances of that falling into a Farang's lap, there is more chance of the Salvation Army buying Suzy Wong's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter Posted July 9, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Today, about 10 days after registering, I was approved for the Phuket Win Sinovac vaccine. My appointment is on the 14th at Phuket airport. Edited July 9, 2021 by Pattaya Spotter 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Today, about 10 days after registering, I was approved for the Phuket Win Sinovac vaccine. My appointment is on the 14th at Phuket airport. They seem to be getting vaccines in batches, if don't fancy Sinovac, don't select it, check after a day (or two), maybe they offer AZ. If not then select whatever is available...., but not wait too long, all options maybe be gone by then, and have to wait for the next batch.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badrabbit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Today, about 10 days after registering, I was approved for the Phuket Win Sinovac vaccine. My appointment is on the 14th at Phuket airport. Received my Vaccination appointment for Sinovac also on the 14th of this month, gf has had both Sinovac jabs already, friend has had first Sinovac jab with no problems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 6 hours ago, Agusts said: They seem to be getting vaccines in batches, if don't fancy Sinovac, don't select it, check after a day (or two), maybe they offer AZ. If not then select whatever is available...., but not wait too long, all options maybe be gone by then, and have to wait for the next batch.... I am also signed up for the Moderna vaccine in October (if it gets here). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badrabbit Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: I am also signed up for the Moderna vaccine in October (if it gets here). I thought about the Moderna but then thought "what are the chances of it actually becoming available plus paying up front, also the possibility of having to fight for a refund if " I asked them the question "will I get a refund if the Moderna Vaccine never arrives" no answer!! Good luck! Edited July 9, 2021 by Badrabbit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcpu Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Badrabbit said: I thought about the Moderna but then thought "what are the chances of it actually becoming available plus paying up front, also the possibility of having to fight for a refund if " I asked them the question "will I get a refund if the Moderna Vaccine never arrives" no answer!! It was very difficult to successfully register (and receive confirmation & make payment) for the Moderna offerings by Bangkok Hospital Phuket, as the demand greatly exceeded the supply. My wife and I tried (with separate laptop computers) on the Wednesday starting at about 08:55am (prior to the 09:00 alleged opening) and kept trying every few seconds or so. Within a few minutes after 09:00 (after unsuccessfully trying) my computer indicated to me the Hospital website was down. This was confirmed later when Hospital noted on Facebook its website down and due to come back at 10:30am. I think it came back at around 10:33 am or so, and registrations closed at about 10:45am (maybe sooner). My wife was successful (which was good as she has only had Sinovac), with her getting an SMS 6-hours later saying registration successful (after which she immediately paid) but I was not (I received an SMS a day later saying I was not successful), where it is less important for myself to succeed as I have had AstraZeneca, and I was thinking of a 2nd jab or a booster for myself. I suspect it could be November timeframe before she gets her Moderna jab. My wife and my view, even before we started trying to register, was that (even true now with her having paid now) if there is no Moderna provided (despite having paid), it is a relatively inexpensive donation to the Hospital, where the private hospitals are seriously suffering financially at present, and they are not allowed to take much (any ? ) profit off of the vaccines. We agreed (prior to our attempt to register) to consider this worst case a donation to the hospital, and best case one of us might even get the vaccine jab. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pattaya Spotter Posted July 14, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 All together took about 2 hours today at Phuket Airport, Terminal X, to compete the vaccination process. It was all very calm and orderly. I would suggest getting there 15-30 minutes early as then you will be at the front of your time group's que (but don't go at 9 a.m. if you have a 10 a.m. time slot thinking you will join the earlier group...they will just direct you to the 10 a.m. group waiting area). The Terminal X building is located adjacent to the International Terminal...you take the entry into the Terminal but keep to the left of the pick-up and departure ramps and continue straight to the first road on the left. Turn left and about 200m down the road is TX. (It's also on Google Maps.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Badrabbit Posted July 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: All together took about 2 hours today at Phuket Airport, Terminal X, to compete the vaccination process. It was all very calm and orderly. I would suggest getting there 15-30 minutes early as then you will be at the front of your time group's que (but don't go at 9 a.m. if you have a 10 a.m. time slot thinking you will join the earlier group...they will just direct you to the 10 a.m. group waiting area). The Terminal X building is located adjacent to the International Terminal...you take the entry into the Terminal but keep to the left of the pick-up and departure ramps and continue straight to the first road on the left. Turn left and about 200m down the road is TX. (It's also on Google Maps.) That's great, I'm going to re-book my jabs as times are now available at Orchid Resort and Spa(Karon) my thought now is "anything is better than nothing" Edited July 14, 2021 by Badrabbit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insertcoins Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Hi, I just arrived to Phuket two weeks ago from Krabi. I am a 37 year old expat that would love to get vaccinated. I do not work in Thailand. Is it possible at all for me to get vaccinated? I am willing to pay for it and am not picky about which type of vaccination I will receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted July 14, 2021 Author Share Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, insertcoins said: Hi, I just arrived to Phuket two weeks ago from Krabi. I am a 37 year old expat that would love to get vaccinated. I do not work in Thailand. Is it possible at all for me to get vaccinated? I am willing to pay for it and am not picky about which type of vaccination I will receive. For the free government vaccination scheme, my understanding is you must be a registered Thai or foreign resident of Phuket (otherwise people would be flocking here from all over Thailand to get vaccinated). If you have taken long term accommodations on the island, and the landlord or lodging owner registers you as living here with immigration, you should be able to get the shot. The first step is to get registered as a resident and then sign up on the "Phuket Win" website. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallecc Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 1:04 PM, Pattaya Spotter said: All together took about 2 hours today at Phuket Airport, Terminal X, to compete the vaccination process. It was all very calm and orderly. I would suggest getting there 15-30 minutes early as then you will be at the front of your time group's que (but don't go at 9 a.m. if you have a 10 a.m. time slot thinking you will join the earlier group...they will just direct you to the 10 a.m. group waiting area). The Terminal X building is located adjacent to the International Terminal...you take the entry into the Terminal but keep to the left of the pick-up and departure ramps and continue straight to the first road on the left. Turn left and about 200m down the road is TX. (It's also on Google Maps.) Same experience, took my girlfriend to get her 1st jab, we were there at the same time as you ???? Only annoyance was that at the time of her booking only Terminal X was available, but from yesterday Karon Orchid is on again, I booked mine for Monday, will ask them if possible to get her 2nd jab there too, not to drive again from Kata to airport. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallecc Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 19 hours ago, insertcoins said: Hi, I just arrived to Phuket two weeks ago from Krabi. I am a 37 year old expat that would love to get vaccinated. I do not work in Thailand. Is it possible at all for me to get vaccinated? I am willing to pay for it and am not picky about which type of vaccination I will receive. Try your luck on Phuket.win website, but make sure your TM30 is Phuket address, because your vaccination needs approval from Phuket government (that's why there's few days waiting between booking and confirmation). My Volunteer vida is from some northern province, but my TM30 is Phuket, vaccine booked OK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted July 15, 2021 Author Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, sallecc said: Same experience, took my girlfriend to get her 1st jab, we were there at the same time as you ???? Only annoyance was that at the time of her booking only Terminal X was available, but from yesterday Karon Orchid is on again, I booked mine for Monday, will ask them if possible to get her 2nd jab there too, not to drive again from Kata to airport. Yeah...a bummer if jabs are now as close as Karon (I'm in Chalong); but it's still closer than a trip Stateside for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallecc Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, sallecc said: Try your luck on Phuket.win website, but make sure your TM30 is Phuket address, because your vaccination needs approval from Phuket government (that's why there's few days waiting between booking and confirmation). My Volunteer vida is from some northern province, but my TM30 is Phuket, vaccine booked OK. Sorry too late to edit: I meant "vaccination needs approval from Phuket *Immigration*" (after you submit the details, system sends it to Phuket Immigration first, and then they approve it to vaccination center to schedule appointments... vaccination worker told us) My girlfriend has Tourist visa and mine is Volunteer visa, we both got jabs confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallecc Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said: Yeah...a bummer if jabs are now as close as Karon (I'm in Chalong); but it's still closer than a trip Stateside for me. Monday I'm getting 1st jab in Karon Orchid, we will ask them if possible to change the location for my gf's 2nd jab to Karon (her 1st jab was at the Airport X), I will keep you posted here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 1 hour ago, sallecc said: Monday I'm getting 1st jab in Karon Orchid, we will ask them if possible to change the location for my gf's 2nd jab to Karon (her 1st jab was at the Airport X), I will keep you posted here. I was allocated a space at Phuket airport for my first AZ jab, but had so many friends going to Karon to get theirs so I tried to change it, but was told I couldn't. However it can be done and all you need to do is to cancel your girlfriend's appointment at the airport and she will be given an alternative, which may well include Karon, as mine did – – good luck. PS. I live in Patong, so perhaps that made the change a lot easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallecc Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 2 hours ago, xylophone said: I was allocated a space at Phuket airport for my first AZ jab, but had so many friends going to Karon to get theirs so I tried to change it, but was told I couldn't. However it can be done and all you need to do is to cancel your girlfriend's appointment at the airport and she will be given an alternative, which may well include Karon, as mine did – – good luck. PS. I live in Patong, so perhaps that made the change a lot easier. Thanks Xylo, but I was talking about her 2nd jab (can't be canceled since she got 1st jab already, now she only has a paper & sticker saying to come 3 weeks later, same place XT). We will try her luck in Karon Orhid, I'll ask them if it's possible to change her 2nd jab to there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sallecc Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just to report today's experience from vaccination at Karon Orchid today, took my parents for 1st jab: it was an absolute breeze - everything done in just over 1 hour (including 30 minutes 'cool-down' after jab), not to mention big convenience for us coming from Kata (>5 minutes slow bike ride). Very few people, everything was very fast, efficient and relaxing (all a bit opposite from last week at the Airport 11am where I took my girlfriend for her 1st jab), probably helped that I booked the last slot 3pm, there were more staff than people coming ???? 2nd shot same place Karon Orchid, August/9. @Pattaya Spotter: I asked them if my gf can get her 2nd jab in Karon (she had 1st jab at the Airport) - 1st desk worker said "No"... 2nd desk worker said "Yes, but Karon Orchid has 2nd jabs on Aug/9 only, so it's up to her to risk & try"... 3rd worker (jab hall registration) said "Yes" but they cannot update the booking, "just let her come to Karon Aug/9" (after she miss original slot @ Airport Aug/4, so it's a bit of a risk)... 4th worker (exit cool-down desk) said "Yes ", but then her colleague mentioned possible complication since Airport jabs are handled by Thalang hospital (not Chalong), so no idea really lol... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 7 hours ago, sallecc said: Just to report today's experience from vaccination at Karon Orchid today, took my parents for 1st jab: it was an absolute breeze - everything done in just over 1 hour (including 30 minutes 'cool-down' after jab), not to mention big convenience for us coming from Kata (>5 minutes slow bike ride). Very few people, everything was very fast, efficient and relaxing (all a bit opposite from last week at the Airport 11am where I took my girlfriend for her 1st jab), probably helped that I booked the last slot 3pm, there were more staff than people coming ???? 2nd shot same place Karon Orchid, August/9. @Pattaya Spotter: I asked them if my gf can get her 2nd jab in Karon (she had 1st jab at the Airport) - 1st desk worker said "No"... 2nd desk worker said "Yes, but Karon Orchid has 2nd jabs on Aug/9 only, so it's up to her to risk & try"... 3rd worker (jab hall registration) said "Yes" but they cannot update the booking, "just let her come to Karon Aug/9" (after she miss original slot @ Airport Aug/4, so it's a bit of a risk)... 4th worker (exit cool-down desk) said "Yes ", but then her colleague mentioned possible complication since Airport jabs are handled by Thalang hospital (not Chalong), so no idea really lol... Good for you. Hopefully it will be a little faster at the airport for #2 on 3 August doe me birthday overall can't complain when you see what's happening in the rest of the country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badrabbit Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) Had to cancel my Sinovac jabs due to a broken leg, now booked Astra Zeneca. 1st jab in Aug 2nd jab in Nov at Patong Hospital. Edited July 21, 2021 by Badrabbit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya Spotter Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Badrabbit said: Had to cancel my Sinovac jabs due to a broken leg, now booked Astra Zeneca. 1st jab in Aug 2nd jab in Nov at Patong Hospital. The lemonade is you'll be getting a supposedly better vaccine. Sorry about the???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agusts Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I read somewhere 1 x AZ vaccine is pretty useless against Delta variant, but 2 x AZ jabs gives a lot more protection.... 2x Sinovac is pretty useless against Delta, but in all cases you're far more protected against hospitalization and serious illness with any vaccine as oppose to no vaccine, a bit hard to get this message across....! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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