Thai PM urges all to do their utmost to make reopening of Thailand possible in October

[samtam]

2 hours ago, Thomas J said:

I don't buy that.  The hotels would make far more money with their hotel rooms filled with many tourists versus the minimal amount that opt to accept the quarantine.  

If it is brown envelope money I would think the hotels would be more than willing to opt for a few baht to have their hotel filled with tourists versus whatever is being done now with quarantine stays. 

 

My point is that they didn't/don't have the option of filling their hotels with tourists, whereas the hotels that achieved ASQ status may have had to go through "a process" that assured them of attaining the status. Retaining that status is probably a "nice little earner", for those that manage that process.

[chalawaan]

This would take an entirely different mindset to: "mai bpen rai, its all a misunderstanding, hello, I'm here for the tea money, and kwaam sanuk or bust" so a social system akin to the self-disciplne and industry of the Singaporean population. 

 

Or at the very least a government of progressives such as those in the youth driven disbanded parties.

 

In summary, they don't have a snowballs chance on Venus.

[Nanaplaza666]

4 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Exactly. No one says that face masks are 100% effective. 

 

Wearing No face mask is 100% ineffective. 

So when this pandemic is over i geuss you will be the one still wearing a face mask every day because there are so many other virusses floating around that the mask doesn't protect you from . 

[Nanaplaza666]

3 hours ago, samtam said:

 

Can we substitute "uninfected" with "unelected", and reduces your chance of infection?????

 

 

 

Unless you wear them one time and discard, (or washable ones are properly washed after one time use).

 

 

 

Except private ventures owned by the "good" people.

 

 

 

The quarantine in hotels is a racket, and a huge money spinner for the "good" people.

That's the same as those desinfecting stuff that says it works for 99.9% but when it doesn't work they can blame it on that 0.1% . Only if it works for a 100% you can say that it works otherwise you will never be sure , so wearing a mask doesn't REALLY work it just lowers the chance but you can still catch it . Or you think that that 30% of the uninfected wearing it + that 70% of the infected makes up to a 100% ??? I can tell you that this 30% + 70% doesn't make a 100% protection . But deep down i think you know that yourself . 

[NoshowJones]

6 hours ago, khunpa said:

With new virus variants Thailand could risk becoming one of those countries that other nations soon will forbid travel to and from.

 

They had the golden opportunity to have vaccinated all by now. They missed it and the ordinary Thai people will now be paying the price.

 

I hope they enjoy their submarines, helicopters and other toys.

Don't forget their space programme.

[FarFlungFalang]

42 minutes ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

So when this pandemic is over i geuss you will be the one still wearing a face mask every day because there are so many other virusses floating around that the mask doesn't protect you from . 

Yesterday I saw an unherd vid where a woman who is on the SAGE panel advising the UK government on covid advocating that masks should become permanent for this very reason.

[ThailandRyan]

24 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Don't forget their space programme.

To infinity and beyond.  

Breaking news.

Thailand to send all of the Covid 19 variants to the moon.  TAT advertises free flights for infected.....

[lavender19]

Well if he and his joke of a government had done what is expected of a functioning government. They might not be in such a  shambolic mess now. And if they had not given preferential treatment to only two vaccine suppliers. Maybe there might have been enough vaccines.

[Nanaplaza666]

44 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Yesterday I saw an unherd vid where a woman who is on the SAGE panel advising the UK government on covid advocating that masks should become permanent for this very reason.

Yes because these people are part of the group that want to controle peoples freedom and all the sientists and doctors etc that say anything different will be blocked from doing so . Welcome to the new normal . Well not for me . After this pandemic they will use the climate change to keep us inside our homes and wear masks . I geuss then it will be to hot after six at night so you can't go out and like the virus it knows how to tell time and see peoples color and race . 

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, Nanaplaza666 said:

So when this pandemic is over i geuss you will be the one still wearing a face mask every day because there are so many other virusses floating around that the mask doesn't protect you from . 

Thais have been wearing masks since the outbreak of SARS. It has become commonplace in China and SEA. It’s just a piece of cloth that provides some degree of protection. Why it became political is beyond me. 

[spidermike007]

Some things that Prayuth and Anutin could and should be saying to those who invested heavily in the tourism industry here, or to the poor folks dependent on tourism for a living. If they cared one iota. 

 

I overlooked your happiness in an attempt to make myself happy, only to realize that my happiness lies in yours. I am sorry, please forgive me. 

 

How do I say the words, ‘I’m sorry’ when I know that words are not enough? And how can I ask you to forgive me when I know I can’t forgive myself?

 

With a bruised heart and a deflated ego, with sad soul and a head hung low. I apologize to you unconditionally.

 

I feel ashamed for what I had done. I don’t have any excuses. I did what I did. I take full responsibility for myself and my actions. I wouldn’t pawn this off on anybody. I’m sorry it happened. And that I hurt people.

 

Mistakes are always forgivable, if one has the courage to admit them.

 

I am not very good at saying sorry, but I apologize for causing so much pain and loss. I could have done alot better. 

 

 I want to say to each of you, simply, and directly, I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior I engaged in. 

 

I believe that when you’re wrong, own it and apologize, and so I do and put it on the equivalent of my front page. 

 

And finally: I am sorry my existence is not very noble or sublime. 

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Some things that Prayuth and Anutin could and should be saying to those who invested heavily in the tourism industry here, or to the poor folks dependent on tourism for a living. If they cared one iota. 

 

I overlooked your happiness in an attempt to make myself happy, only to realize that my happiness lies in yours. I am sorry, please forgive me. 

 

How do I say the words, ‘I’m sorry’ when I know that words are not enough? And how can I ask you to forgive me when I know I can’t forgive myself?

 

With a bruised heart and a deflated ego, with sad soul and a head hung low. I apologize to you unconditionally.

 

I feel ashamed for what I had done. I don’t have any excuses. I did what I did. I take full responsibility for myself and my actions. I wouldn’t pawn this off on anybody. I’m sorry it happened. And that I hurt people.

 

Mistakes are always forgivable, if one has the courage to admit them.

 

I am not very good at saying sorry, but I apologize for causing so much pain and loss. I could have done alot better. 

 

 I want to say to each of you, simply, and directly, I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior I engaged in. 

 

I believe that when you’re wrong, own it and apologize, and so I do and put it on the equivalent of my front page. 

 

And finally: I am sorry my existence is not very noble or sublime. 

.......and Please see through my mistakes and re-elect me as your PM who has restored happiness to you.

[johng]

8 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Thais have been wearing masks since the outbreak of SARS

I would say they have been wearing them  to try to protect themself from the shocking air pollution more so than to protect from a virus.

[johng]

1 hour ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Yesterday I saw an unherd vid where a woman who is on the SAGE panel advising the UK government on covid advocating that masks should become permanent for this very reason.

It will be very difficult to end the madness of this "Covidiocy"  ????

[spidermike007]

The great and benevolent leader has already insured happiness. Now, he is showing the vast purity of his heart, by allowing the people to lead such extraordinary lives, with so much freedom and liberty. 

 

He is lowering unemployment.

He is growing the economy.

He is doing everything in his power to open the country up again, and increase tourism revenue.

He is increasing exports.

He is abiding by all of the terms of the ASEAN charters he signed, and allowing the duty free importation of all beer throughout ASEAN. Bintang, Beer Lao, Bia Saigon, Bia Huda, Bia Ha Noi, Dagon, Saigon Special, 333, are on all of the supermarket shelves as we speak. We are no longer subject to the very low quality local beers, as promised in the recent ASEAN charter, that Thailand agreed to and signed. 

 

He is making visa policy easy, simple and streamlined, and all tourists and expats are very happy about that.

 

He is working on the attitudes of government workers, and making sure they are open and friendly to both tourists, and ex-pats.

 

He is improving traffic and public safety.

 

He is working day and night to eliminate the air quality issues, that have become a catastrophe for the nation. 

 

Corruption is being eliminated, and innocent fall guys are no longer getting charged for murder, and being put to death.

 

The taxi mafia on Samui and Phuket have been eliminated, and tourists can now get a taxi at a fair price. They are also adding multiple options of cheap public transportation on the Southern islands. 

 

Life is better for all now that this great man is demonstrating his genius and vision on a daily basis. All he cares about is the welfare of his own people, and the happiness of both tourists and the ex-pat community. He contemplates this day and night

[KKr]

10 hours ago, kaneko86 said:

and allow tourists to enter with a negative pcr test

what about tests when leaving, and how about treatment as if and when needed, after exposure to a 95 % or so unvaccinated population ?

[koratkarlos]

As I waited two hours today for my Khor Ror 2 it became crystal clear to me that it will be a challenge to make the vaccination quotas.  As the country may open up to a singly vaccinated base a perfect storm may be brewing.  I truly hope this is not the case and am encouraged by the apparent sense of urgency.  Good luck Thailand!

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, sambum said:

And this "top story" is running side by side with a post from a senior doctor at the Internal Medicine Department of the Faculty of Medicine at Mahidol University, urging caution about reopening Thailand too early to International visitors.

 

Seems like a conflict of interests here?

 

Nothing unusual. In the UK, Boris and the team meet with SAGE. SAGE says it's risky. Boris tells Hancock to tell everyone it is OK. Hancock tells everyone it is OK. Non-SAGE specialists vice their doubts publicly. SAGE hides below the parapet. MSM goes and interviews people that want to go to the pub, gym or Portugal. Suspected happenstances eventuate and it is not OK. People that went to the pub, gym or Portugal suddenly get their privileges yanked. MSM interviews pub and gym goers and people who had a few hours in the sun in Portugal. Hancock says it's very difficult but we must save the NHS. Boris follows up with a long face, mumbling interminably about being deeply sorry, saving the NHS and better luck next time."

 

Same same here just different language and players.

[kaneko86]

22 minutes ago, KKr said:

what about tests when leaving, and how about treatment as if and when needed, after exposure to a 95 % or so unvaccinated population ?

 

Test when leaving is up to the destination country.

Treatment I don't really understand what you mean but anyway you need to be covid insured to enter so that answers your question. 

Exposed to a 95% unvaccinated population, omg I didn't know unvaccinated equates infected...

[DogNo1]

The die was cast last summer when it was decided to procure Thailand's supply of vaccine only from the local company Siam Bioscience.   With various governments buying huge amounts of vaccine from the foreign makers, it is now hard to get.  The only hope is that more vaccines from new producers will be approved and world-wide supply will increase dramatically.

[chalawaan]

I will try to make as many dangerous U turns without indicating, as posiible, all to honour loong tu.

I'm doing my bit like a local.

[NanLaew]

58 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Some things that Prayuth and Anutin could and should be saying to those who invested heavily in the tourism industry here, or to the poor folks dependent on tourism for a living. If they cared one iota. 

 

I overlooked your happiness in an attempt to make myself happy, only to realize that my happiness lies in yours. I am sorry, please forgive me. 

 

How do I say the words, ‘I’m sorry’ when I know that words are not enough? And how can I ask you to forgive me when I know I can’t forgive myself?

 

With a bruised heart and a deflated ego, with sad soul and a head hung low. I apologize to you unconditionally.

 

I feel ashamed for what I had done. I don’t have any excuses. I did what I did. I take full responsibility for myself and my actions. I wouldn’t pawn this off on anybody. I’m sorry it happened. And that I hurt people.

 

Mistakes are always forgivable, if one has the courage to admit them.

 

I am not very good at saying sorry, but I apologize for causing so much pain and loss. I could have done alot better. 

 

 I want to say to each of you, simply, and directly, I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior I engaged in. 

 

I believe that when you’re wrong, own it and apologize, and so I do and put it on the equivalent of my front page. 

 

And finally: I am sorry my existence is not very noble or sublime. 

 

<deleted> me, another screenplay.

 

Will this be for a movie or made-for-TV?

[Joinaman]

10 minutes ago, DogNo1 said:

The die was cast last summer when it was decided to procure Thailand's supply of vaccine only from the local company Siam Bioscience.   With various governments buying huge amounts of vaccine from the foreign makers, it is now hard to get.  The only hope is that more vaccines from new producers will be approved and world-wide supply will increase dramatically.

i wonder who is the owner of this new company, who i guess will be profiting very nicely . Would this be why they prefer to wait than buy from other companies ??

[Danderman123]

6 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I agree that's what the CDC says.Have I seen them prove it?No.

Okay, so now we are down to your opinion vs the CDC. Not to mention WHO, and any number of national scientific bodies that support use of face masks to reduce viral transmission.

 

Edited June 21, 2021 by Danderman123

[FarFlungFalang]

9 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Okay, so now we are down to your opinion vs the CDC. Not to mention WHO, and any number of national scientific bodies that support use of face masks to reduce viral transmission.

 

Here's a quote from the publication of the CDC health advice in the link below.

 

"Randomised controlled trials in health care workers showed that respirators, if worn continually during a shift, were effective but not if worn intermittently. Medical masks were not effective, and cloth masks even less effective."

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32512240/

[dukeandduke]

"CDC recommends that travelers who are not fully vaccinated continue to wear a mask and maintain physical distance when traveling."

[bradiston]

1 hour ago, DogNo1 said:

The die was cast last summer when it was decided to procure Thailand's supply of vaccine only from the local company Siam Bioscience.   With various governments buying huge amounts of vaccine from the foreign makers, it is now hard to get.  The only hope is that more vaccines from new producers will be approved and world-wide supply will increase dramatically.

I think the mistake the Thai government made was to promotes SBS as the main source of vaccines. Sure, give it a chance to do what it can, but what has happened? It should always have been a  Plan B. Plan A should have been to buy in as many shots of whatever was available of proven worth.

 

But what was AstraZaneca doing issuing it a licence in the first place? This is a lab that has never produced large quantities of vaccine, AFAIK. Whatever induced (?) AstraZaneca to ok it? If it all goes pear shaped, I think it would have to be AZ that takes a lot of the blame. 

[3NUMBAS]

the worlds airlines may not bo able to comply with these plans

[Danderman123]

40 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Here's a quote from the publication of the CDC health advice in the link below.

 

"Randomised controlled trials in health care workers showed that respirators, if worn continually during a shift, were effective but not if worn intermittently. Medical masks were not effective, and cloth masks even less effective."

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32512240/

The published conclusion:

 

”The study suggests that community mask use by well people could be beneficial, particularly for COVID-19, where transmission may be pre-symptomatic. The studies of masks as source control also suggest a benefit, and may be important during the COVID-19 pandemic in universal community face mask use as well as in health care settings. Trials in healthcare workers support the use of respirators continuously during a shift. This may prevent health worker infections and deaths from COVID-19, as aerosolisation in the hospital setting has been documented.”

[holy cow cm]

Yep Big Cheezy, let’s keep on bringing  Sinocrapa in with its’ less than favorable short comings. That should fix the problem after about 4-5 jabs of it for each person. 

Edited June 21, 2021 by holy cow cm