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Caution voiced over premature reopening of Thailand to international visitors

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Associate Professor Dr. Nithipat Jiankul, chief of the respiratory disease and tuberculosis department

 

A senior doctor, at the Internal Medicine Department of the Faculty of Medicine at Mahidol University, has voiced caution over premature reopening of Thailand to foreign arrivals in October, pointing out that vaccination of 50 million Thais, to begin development of herd immunity, should not be the only consideration behind such a decision.

 

Associate Professor Dr. Nithipat Jiankul, chief of the respiratory disease and tuberculosis department, said that, besides the mass vaccination operation, the decision to open the country must also take into consideration the domestic health system, the national economy and security. If new daily infections are still at about 3,000, or more than 300 people are in need of ventilators with more than a dozen fatalities each day, he said that it is better for the country to remain closed. 

 

Dr. Nithipat said that, to achieve the goal of inoculating at least 50 million people in Thailand with their first doses of vaccines, in the hope that this will generate a safe level of herd immunity, is just the first step before easing restrictions, as mass vaccinations are not the only prerequisite for the safe opening of the country.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/caution-voiced-over-premature-reopening-of-thailand-to-international-visitors/

 

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  • Jingthing
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    Also to consider the widespread use of Sinovac here. One does of Sinovac gives very little protection. So people getting Sinovac shouldn't really be counted until weeks after their SECOND dose.

  • MasterBaker
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    what this guy possibly knows about virus? he's not even a general!

  • ThailandRyan
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    The man is pretty much spot on.  So even if Phuket gets 70% of its population vaccinated, the returning workers from Issan won't be vaccinated.  A little short sighted this government is 

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Not that Thailand is anywhere near it but Scott Morrison recently said they same thing about Australia if we are now at the point where mass vaccination isn't enough to start opening up the world is <deleted>

 Let's just keep moving those goalposts further and further and further away.

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The man is pretty much spot on.  So even if Phuket gets 70% of its population vaccinated, the returning workers from Issan won't be vaccinated.  A little short sighted this government is 

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Also to consider the widespread use of Sinovac here. One does of Sinovac gives very little protection. So people getting Sinovac shouldn't really be counted until weeks after their SECOND dose.

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3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Also to consider the widespread use of Sinovac here. One does of Sinovac gives very little protection. So people getting Sinovac shouldn't really be counted until weeks after their SECOND dose.

Sinovac restores Brazilian city  back to normality.

Your statement is far from the facts.

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4 minutes ago, itsari said:

Sinovac restores Brazilian city  back to normality.

Your statement is far from the facts.

Judging by the flat daily deaths and rising new infections and the second highest total deaths,  is that normality in Brazil?

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He first should refuse his monthly salary and give it to unemployed hotel workers until Thailand isn't reopened... Than maybe he can come back and talk again.

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what this guy possibly knows about virus? he's not even a general!

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Says the doctor with a rock-solid, high-paying job....

Still unclear on the metrics for opening "in 120 days".

 

50 million people vaccinated. Does that mean one dose? Two?

 

Kinda basic stuff to define, or is that left to the committee?

 

 

 

Testing location, volume.

 

Infection rate

 

Hospitalizations

 

Deaths

 

Vaccination numbers

 

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54 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Judging by the flat daily deaths and rising new infections and the second highest total deaths,  is that normality in Brazil?

Read the most recent facts. Things are changing quickly with the vaccination programs around the world.

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9 hours ago, webfact said:

Dr. Nithipat said that, to achieve the goal of inoculating at least 50 million people in Thailand with their first doses of vaccines, in the hope that this will generate a safe level of herd immunity, is just the first step before easing restrictions, as mass vaccinations are not the only prerequisite for the safe opening of the country.

One dose... hope the rest of the world is watching and taking note.

Safe trusted Thailand... 

The borders will be opened no-doubt about that, it's Prayuts saving grace.

Businesses will all open...

and when only a few tourists show up how many businesses are going to remain open with no punters.

You will see more go bankrupt in the first six months of the borders open than you've seen over the last 18 months.

No more bail-outs... sink or swim.

 

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The PM has finally understood that closing the country when Covid has settled everywhere has become counterproductive for the economy, therefore reopening everything is the most logical solution in order that the depression does not reach a much more serious crisis.

let us get something straight in one simple question without dancing on the subject.

 

Does the government believe that fully vaccinated (2 dosages) are safe to enter Thailand without quarantine? Is there any evidence that fully vaccinated tourists can infect other?

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Also to consider the widespread use of Sinovac here. One does of Sinovac gives very little protection. So people getting Sinovac shouldn't really be counted until weeks after their SECOND dose.

there are rumors that sinovac can't protect you against the delta virus. look at the news coming from Indonesia.

Dubai reinject people who got sinovac with Pfizer..

there is still doubt about sinovac.  

 

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1 hour ago, itsari said:

Sinovac restores Brazilian city  back to normality.

Your statement is far from the facts.

You must have been asleep!  Wait up and do some recent research or as they say get better resources! It is now clearer that the Sinovac after testing 6 months isn't showing much or any immunity protection. What is the definition to normality?  ????

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29 minutes ago, itsari said:

Read the most recent facts. Things are changing quickly with the vaccination programs around the world.

Yesterday +44,178 cases....second highest in the world!

Brazil on this morning's news due to protests against the lack of measures and high infection and deaths. 

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I've said this from day one,  Thailand leaders have had over a year to get ready for an outbreak but instead of obtaining equipment they did very little or nothing. Their answer to everything was to lock down and sit back and glow how well they protected their people.

 

Today, they have no vaccine what they do have since day one is lots of comments and bright ideas that aren't well thought out. Leaders and many of the Doctors who speak out fall into the category " the more patriotic the more stupid " they throw out ideas with their position because they know they can there isn't any breakdown or fact check of their statements.

 

Since day one it has been the dirty foreigner today it still comes back to the dirty foreigner when the fact is the problem has always been themselves and the border surrounding Thailand.????

Get your own house in order Thailand ! If you dont , and start opening  too early , it will be you thats a super spreader with its own variant delegation - the Thai Variant . Immunise ALL asap !

Why is there no mention of whether the opening in October is to vaccinated only or all foreign tourists? I think it makes a huge difference.

A lone voice crying in the  wilderness.

5 hours ago, GrandPapillon said:

boom bala boom, here we go for another round ????

More fantasy BS

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Also to consider the widespread use of Sinovac here. One does of Sinovac gives very little protection. So people getting Sinovac shouldn't really be counted until weeks after their SECOND dose.

Actually a friend of mine who was in Samut Sakhorn when all this started and got vaccinated just as that cluster unfolded... shared results.

 

 

31/03/2021 was the first shot, 26/4 is actually 2 weeks after 2nd shot... Only 6 weeks after 2nd shot numbers looked favourable. So comment above is spot on.

 

But there's one twist to this - most if not all vaccines are using original Wuhan detected virus as their base to build immunity for. Against that one they are likely very effective. But with more and more mutations, their effectiveness will decrease. What I wonder is if vaccine makers are actually tweaking their vaccines to adapt, or is that only coming at some later stage through booster shots?

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lets get some perspective here,the chinese vacc doesnt offer a great deal of cover compared to other vaccs,it has side effects,my friends in hk wont use it,the news coming out of china frightens them.the vacc roll out heres a joke,info like where to go and testing etc is like rocking horse <deleted>.foreigners are still the evil demon and are not invited to the party but sure is a mean smart virus it knows the difference between a burmese

,a yank, a brit and a thai.weve no chance!every day 100  or so die on the roads,that hasnt stopped the economy for yrs and the fatalities from covid are by and large the sick and old and a hell of a lot less than die on the roads.......if you keep pushing it back and back changing goalposts youll never recover.whats next? jab the cats and dogs,thats a possibility according to some 'experts',kids are now a suspected reservoir,but if youve had both jabs!!??its never ending.whats next ahhh global warming so we will be limited in the no of flights we can get on in the future but of course that wont apply to the pollys and the likes of bono.1984 well its already here my phone knows when i use the toilet.and itll tell someone thats for sure.no wonder they make you use your phone for everything.the  thought police are already amongst us see the woke crew in the west,checking your thoughts what you say read or access then like china they will give you a score.aghhh you failed...step this way a little uigher re education for you my boy.this govt well good luck ive t shirts with higher IQs and as all this comes to pass not a word on the cause CHINA

Looking forward to seeing Phuket International airport packed with Tourists in July 

Will be interesting to see what nationalities they are ????

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