Spread of Delta Variant in Thailand Aggravates COVID-19 Situation

[NanLaew]

16 hours ago, chalawaan said:

There is no meme ridiculous enough to post on here that matches the scale of their reptilian ineptitude.

 

Hey! Easy with the reptilian bashing OK?

 

The crocodile has been around, largely unevolved, for around 200 million years already and its brain remains the size of a walnut.

[chang1]

16 hours ago, internationalism said:

in march was already known from an India experience, that AZ don't work that well

What experience was that? In the UK it has been a fantastic success - way more effective than the trials suggested even on the Indian (delta) variant.

[NanLaew]

The main difference between the Delta variant and previous ones.

 

A ) It appears to be more infectious than previous variants, but

B ) It doesn't appear to be more lethal than previous variants.

[mancub]

16 hours ago, chalawaan said:

This obsession with industrial "sanitization" sprays is BS. They spray surfaces that immediately become unsanitary/germ compromised as soon as the stuff dries. Covid is airborne, it is spreading in ASQ hotels- this is widely broadcast in Australia but not here.

Their biggest idiocy was sanitizing the forest, the jungle, at the Myanmar border. A natural progression from the equally clownish water trucks spraying to reduce air pollution, not site dust, actual smog!

There is no meme ridiculous enough to post on here that matches the scale of their reptilian ineptitude.

Akin to pushing water up-stream .

[DrJack54]

13 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Hey! Easy with the reptilian bashing OK?

 

The crocodile has been around, largely unevolved, for around 200 million years already and its brain remains the size of a walnut.

Well one thing in common with Thai B1 and B2. 

 Brain size of walnut.

Perhaps I'm being bit harsh on the crocs

Edited July 6, 2021 by DrJack54

[dennnis]

5 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

It’ll mutate stronger and more lethal to fight the vaccine 

 

those that are vaccinated should be okay, but the next variant will carry a higher death rate to those not vaccinated

How can you know that it will mutate stronger, not weaker? Are you a fortune teller?

[jacko45k]

58 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said:

My feeling is that, people in the UK, have started to become very suspicious of the governments motive. For example, many of those that have been fully vaccinated were promised 'freedom' by the summer, yet there are still restrictions in place.

Summer is until September......

July 19th restrictions end.

[newnative]

I've totally lost track of the number of times they have said they are going to 'place an order' for this or that vaccine.  Here it is JULY and they are still talking about placing an order???  Unbelievable incompetence. 

[Tracyb]

Who could have seen this coming....?

[cyril sneer]

13 minutes ago, dennnis said:

How can you know that it will mutate stronger, not weaker? Are you a fortune teller?

Yes

[Cake Monster]

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He said the main measures, which can help contain the outbreak, are to reduce mobility, reduce travel and reduce the risk of getting infected in workplaces. Other measures include not eating at food outlets.

Thai Government .... Take note of what is required by you.

[soalbundy]

I recently watched a program about a hospital in the UK fighting covid, a doctor there said, "We aren't going to be able to eradicate covid, it's here to stay"

[aBigSmile]

17 hours ago, JamesH said:

Real world data from Public Health England,  demonstrated two doses of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca are 92% effective against hospitalisation due to the Delta variant and showed no deaths among those vaccinated.

 

I don't know what the British government publishes, but most delta cases in Israel are breakthroughs (i.e, double-vaccinated people get infected).

 

Here's a news tidbit from the hollyland:

"JUST IN - Israel: Pfizer mRNA vaccine is only 64% effective in preventing coronavirus infection after 2 doses, dropped from 94% in May. In addition, researchers warn that it is too early to fully tell how effective the vaccine is at preventing hospitalization."

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ministry-data-said-to-show-pfizer-shot-blocks-majority-of-serious-delta-cases/

 

(Of course, the headline is misleading, at is the wont of most media outlets nowadays).

 

 

[jacko45k]

16 minutes ago, newnative said:

I've totally lost track of the number of times they have said they are going to 'place an order' for this or that vaccine.  Here it is JULY and they are still talking about placing an order???  Unbelievable incompetence. 

Fit only for a game of whack-a-mole, each time one opens his mouth!

Edited July 6, 2021 by jacko45k

[cjinchiangrai]

14 minutes ago, newnative said:

I've totally lost track of the number of times they have said they are going to 'place an order' for this or that vaccine.  Here it is JULY and they are still talking about placing an order???  Unbelievable incompetence. 

The Bangkok Post had an article yesterday saying that they called Moderna to ask about delivery. Moderna said Q1-22 because no order has been placed. Apparently the vaccines they are collecting money for are not on the way.

 

Edited July 6, 2021 by cjinchiangrai

[aBigSmile]

23 minutes ago, dennnis said:

How can you know that it will mutate stronger, not weaker? Are you a fortune teller?

 

Because a mutation is normally a respond to evolutionary pressure, i.g. a vaccine.

The mutation is "stronger" because it's got to find ways to overcome the new impedance. 

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, aBigSmile said:

I don't know what the British government publishes,

Claims on UK News today was that most daily new infections were people who had not  been vaccinated. No mention if that meant not fully or zero jabs.

[newnative]

Just now, cjinchiangrai said:

The Bangkok Pust had an article yesterday saying that they called Moderna to ask about delivery. Moderna said Q1-22 because no order has been placed. Apparently the vaccines they are collecting money for are not on the way.

 

Shoot.  My partner and I applied and paid for the Moderna.  What a mess.

[Bangkok Barry]

17 hours ago, internationalism said:

AZ don't work that well

 

Utter nonsense.

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, aBigSmile said:

 

Because a mutation is normally a respond to evolutionary pressure, i.g. a vaccine.

The mutation is "stronger" because it's got to find ways to overcome the new impedance. 

In general mutations make diseases less lethal and more transmissable. This is the optimal survival strategy from the perspective of the virus.

 

[dennnis]

3 minutes ago, aBigSmile said:

 

Because a mutation is normally a respond to evolutionary pressure, i.g. a vaccine.

The mutation is "stronger" because it's got to find ways to overcome the new impedance. 

So, the mutations will be "stronger" because of the vaccine. Not because of the unvaccinated people.

[Bangkok Barry]

17 hours ago, Surelynot said:

With 50% of the UK double vaccinated new cases rose by 75% last week

 

You forgot to mention that despite the increase in cases and, although the UK is fully expecting cases to rise when restrictions are lifted, hospital admissions are extremely low as the vast majority of Brits have been fully vaccinated.

[dennnis]

4 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

In general mutations make diseases less lethal and more transmissable. This is the optimal survival strategy from the perspective of the virus.

 

Should be like that, but not with this virus, according to "experts".

[Bangkok Barry]

With the vast majority not having been vaccinated in Thailand, and as that situation is expected to be the case for many months to come, the country is sitting on a time bomb. I'd guess that any hopes they have of re-igniting the tourist industry are about to disappear down the toilet for at least another year - by which time it will be totally dead rather than in ICU.

[Surelynot]

8 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

as the vast majority of Brits have been fully vaccinated.

??? over 30 million not fully vaccinated.

Edited July 6, 2021 by Surelynot

[dallen52]

17 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

Europe start to order third dose for citizen's. So LOS not going to get it any time soon if they not fast!

Now is the time money really not count!

No country more than Thailand should understand the importance of money.

It's seems like they are sitting back waiting for more free handouts.

Rather than spend Thai government money.

 

They are way down the pecking order when it comes to preference with the vaccine companies...

[Cake Monster]

17 hours ago, Thailand said:

Fortunately it is not in Phuket.

Or so we have been told.

[rott]

17 hours ago, chalawaan said:

This obsession with industrial "sanitization" sprays is BS. They spray surfaces that immediately become unsanitary/germ compromised as soon as the stuff dries. Covid is airborne, it is spreading in ASQ hotels- this is widely broadcast in Australia but not here.

Their biggest idiocy was sanitizing the forest, the jungle, at the Myanmar border. A natural progression from the equally clownish water trucks spraying to reduce air pollution, not site dust, actual smog!

There is no meme ridiculous enough to post on here that matches the scale of their reptilian ineptitude.

Reptilian ineptitude. I like the sound of that and 

 

17 hours ago, chalawaan said:

This obsession with industrial "sanitization" sprays is BS. They spray surfaces that immediately become unsanitary/germ compromised as soon as the stuff dries. Covid is airborne, it is spreading in ASQ hotels- this is widely broadcast in Australia but not here.

Their biggest idiocy was sanitizing the forest, the jungle, at the Myanmar border. A natural progression from the equally clownish water trucks spraying to reduce air pollution, not site dust, actual smog!

There is no meme ridiculous enough to post on here that matches the scale of their reptilian ineptitude.

Reptilian ineptitude. I like the sound of that and would be pleased to plagiarise it, but I am concerned the less literate would not get it. Are reptiles known for being inept.? 

[digger70]

There be Sooo  many different strains of this mutated virus that they Will have to search for a New Updated Vaccine otherwise there will be Real Pandemic.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, dennnis said:

6 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

It’ll mutate stronger and more lethal to fight the vaccine 

 

those that are vaccinated should be okay, but the next variant will carry a higher death rate to those not vaccinated

How can you know that it will mutate stronger, not weaker? Are you a fortune teller?

 

Organisms evolve to survive. In layman's terms, the Delta variant is 'more sticky' hence it's ability to spread faster. So far that's it's only significant trait, ie. it's not causing a greater degree of respiratory distress and it doesn't appear to have greater resistance to the current suite of vaccines.