2 is 1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dialemco said: Well really not the time to open for tourism. The borders should be strictly controlled and every effort made to obtain more vaccines Sadly borders not any more issue here! Dosent matter even they open all! So much virus in Thailand already! If coming people go in ASQ they are more safe there than in other place in Thailand! And ASQ people are most tested people also! Edited July 9, 2021 by 2 is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surelynot Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, rott said: It would be good to see it happen but no reason why it should. People came here of their own free will so why should their governments carry the burden. “The ultimate aim of government is not to rule or restrain by fear, nor to exact obedience, but contrariwise, to free every man from fear, that he may live in all possible security; in other words, to strengthen his natural right to exist and work without injury to himself or others.........unless he moves abroad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aBigSmile Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Surelynot said: Well it certainly seems to be the case in the UK. You trust the information that comes out of the British governments? Usually, private organization and private research eventually give us a better picture. Just takes time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surelynot Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, aBigSmile said: Usually, private organization and private research eventually give us a better picture 55555.....seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 is 1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Seems like NBT not tell accurate covid info from all provinces today!? Or its really late, maybe wait lockdown news first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Government spokesman providing EN language translation of new government restrictions: saying COVID deaths could exceed 100 per day in the next two weeks. Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, aBigSmile said: You trust the information that comes out of the British governments? Usually, private organization and private research eventually give us a better picture. Just takes time. Well, until something else comes along, have to make do with it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aBigSmile Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, rabas said: What makes you think it can't also learn to bypass human immunity? Of course it can. It's been shown that stronger vaccines can produce a better immune response than natural immunity. So all you accomplish is more spread, more mutations, and more death. That's one reason Russian and Chinese disinformation like this idea. Yes, there is a link: https://www.reuters.com/world/china/russia-china-sow-disinformation-undermine-trust-western-vaccines-eu-report-says-2021-04-28/ Fallacy. Your T-cells can handle virus variations that exceed 20% of the original strain genetic make-up. A vaccine is not capable of such feat. As for number of deaths e.t.c., it’s so minuscule that last year failed to register any excess death compared to 2019. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aBigSmile Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, jacko45k said: Well, until something else comes along, have to make do with it..... Sure. But it's worth taking heed that in Israel most cases are doubly-jabbed and likewise the number fo deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Starting Monday for Bangkok and 5 adjoining provinces: Screenshot of televised government news briefing Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Not "fully" vaccinated. The 70%+ figure for Phuket was 1 shot, last time I saw province specific data. The 2 shot figure was something under 60%. And that is if the numbers are to be believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) New rules for 10 provinces in dark red zone including Bangkok and five adjoining provinces. Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Transportation restrictions starting Saturday for 10 dark red zone provinces: Screenshot from televised government news briefing Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Government spokesman lays out priorities for distribution of promised U.S. COVID/Pfizer vaccines: Screenshot of televised government news briefing Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, ChrisKC said: 2014 was 7 years ago and has no relevance to Covid or any of my comments. I said fairness and justice as it relates to some current actions. However bad people have been in the past, I don't automatically blame them now for something that they maybe didn't do! From the point of 2014 I agree with you. But we live in the present and sometimes we have to deal with others we don't approve of while attempting for an outcome that offers the greatest good for the greatest number. You are angry about the way things have happened in Thailand and so am I but neither you or I have any control over these things so I find myself having to accept the situation and not allow it to interfere in matters that are not directly connected. Not angry Thailand has been this way for yonks but I think what is happening today stems from 2014 as that's when the incompetence reestablished itself as well as the corruption and lack of transparency.This is the same situation we are living with today a lack of transparency and corruption and convicted heroin smugglers in what you refer to as a government.This greed and corruption are affecting the response to the pandemic as they have no accountability where as democracies must at least answer to the population.The vaccine situation is what is showing as a prime example of this with Thailands insistence on delaying the acquisition of vaccines by refusing Indias offer of AZ in the beginning and the blocks put on the private sector and it's priority of Sinovac over others based god knows what.Mainly it's the not being accountable which drive the ineptitude.We may be living in the present but we are suffering from the past. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, aBigSmile said: Sure. But it's worth taking heed that in Israel most cases are doubly-jabbed and likewise the number fo deaths. Yesterday, Israel 134 new cases and 2 new deaths, most cases is not significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) There’s also a re-adjustment of the rollout of #COVID19 vaccines with a bigger emphasis on Bangkok and surrounding provinces with 80% to be allocated to people senior residents and people with pre-existing conditions. https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1413431670334582784 Edited July 9, 2021 by anchadian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 Just now, anchadian said: There’s also a re-adjustment of the rollout of #COVID19 vaccines with a bigger emphasis on Bangkok and surrounding provinces with 80% to be allocated to people senior residents and people with pre-existing conditions. There go the 27 Pattaya had been allocated. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, anchadian said: There’s also a re-adjustment of the rollout of #COVID19 vaccines with a bigger emphasis on Bangkok and surrounding provinces with 80% to be allocated to people senior residents and people with pre-existing conditions. https://twitter.com/SaksithCNA/status/1413431670334582784 Gees if someone is living with 6 underlying conditions they miss out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonymous Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: There's a reality check twitter thread here from a foreign doctor and his family, including children + nanny etc in Thailand with his experience of the group catching covid, one died and the father and 2 and a half year old son both in serious condition in hospital. This is sobering reading and well worth the effort and yes young children can suffer seriously with the virus, I would paste it hear but it is too long, here's the first couple of tweets then you need to follow the thread: https://twitter.com/IntegralAnswers/status/1412644275980963841 1) My family’s experience with COVID in Thailand. On May 30th, a part time helper, employed by us to help with laundry, cleaning and most importantly caring for my 2 1/2 year old son and 10 year old daughter came to our home. When I returned home from work, she appeared ill. 2) I’m a physician. I immediately sent her to hospital for testing. Transferred money for her care. 3 days later (Jun 2) my 2 1/2 year old wakes complaining “My mouth hurts, Daddy.” He is hot to touch. Temp is 38.2C. Take family to hospital for tests. No word about helper yet. I read your link. Seems that you missed the crucial information that this doctor wrote. He went on to say: 4) Upon admission, X-rays confirm my son has pneumonia. 5) Daughter (2 neg tests) isolates with extended family. X-rays confirm I have pneumonia. Yes, pneumonia affects young children. Covid only in very rare cases. I had pneumonia as a child. Was three weeks in hospital. My sister had pneumonia last year and nearly died. She was intubated. The hospital (in the UK) tested her four times during her stay trying to diagnose Covid, but no, it was definitely pneumonia. Thailand had an average 122 deaths a DAY from flu and pneumonia in 2018. We are still quite a long way off reaching that statistic with Covid. Both pneumonia and Covid are contagious and deadly, but they are not the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 is 1(is that like 7 of 9?). Under $4,000 a month seemed rather low even for the PM of Thailand. Just a simple question and to offer a comparison to an average former American Public Servant who achieved a low rank while in his past service. The End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Antonymous said: I read your link. Seems that you missed the crucial information that this doctor wrote. He went on to say: 4) Upon admission, X-rays confirm my son has pneumonia. 5) Daughter (2 neg tests) isolates with extended family. X-rays confirm I have pneumonia. Yes, pneumonia affects young children. Covid only in very rare cases. I had pneumonia as a child. Was three weeks in hospital. My sister had pneumonia last year and nearly died. She was intubated. The hospital (in the UK) tested her four times during her stay trying to diagnose Covid, but no, it was definitely pneumonia. Thailand had an average 122 deaths a DAY from flu and pneumonia in 2018. We are still quite a long way off reaching that statistic with Covid. Both pneumonia and Covid are contagious and deadly, but they are not the same. Are you for real? Pneumonia is the number 1 symptom of covid in serious cases. It is caused as a result of catching the virus. Why do you think the first thing they do is xray your lungs. Edited July 9, 2021 by Bkk Brian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 At least this time, even in Bangkok and the other nine provinces with increased restrictions, they're not totally closing the public parks as occurred last time: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 The government said on Friday that checkpoints and logistics for the new measures will be introduced on July 10 but the full restrictions will not coming into effect until July 12. They will be imposed in six highly-controlled provinces including Bangkok, Nakhon Pathom, Nonthaburi, Pathum Thani, Samut Prakan and Samut Sakhon. The new measures introduced by the government include: Full implementation of the work-from-home model for both public and private sector The setting up of checkpoints to fully ban unnecessary traveling and curfew between 21:00 and 04:00 Public transportation will be closed between 21:00 and 03:00 Convenience stores must close between 20:00 and 04:00 Malls will be partially closed with only supermarkets, drug stores, and restaurants open. The closing time will be 20:00. No dining-in or sale of alcohol at restaurants. The closing time will be 20:00 Massage parlors, spas and beauty parlors are closed Public parks will open for exercising. The closing time will be 20:00 No social gathering of more than 5 people, except for authorities, work, and religious gathering. These measures will be in place for 14 days. https://www.thaienquirer.com/29666/thailand-introduces-new-lockdown-like-measures-for-two-weeks-beginning-on-monday/ 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Starting Monday for Bangkok and 5 adjoining provinces: Screenshot of televised government news briefing I look at the exceptions for inside shopping centres and i'm struggling to think of anything else. The list of exceptions is pretty much what's inside shopping centres. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 "Full implementation of the work-from-home model for both public and private sector" So does this mean that Government departments like Immigration will be closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, dinsdale said: I look at the exceptions for inside shopping centres and i'm struggling to think of anything else. The list of exceptions is pretty much what's inside shopping centres. Impacting department stores and regular retail stores with the exception of those specifically listed, AFAIK.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchadian Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Peterphuket said: And in Pattaya they definitely sure they open for the tourist at the end of this month. LOL Pattaya plans to open for international tourism in October subject to ? Edited July 9, 2021 by anchadian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aBigSmile Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 32 minutes ago, jacko45k said: Yesterday, Israel 134 new cases and 2 new deaths, most cases is not significant. Since exact figures seem important to you, I’ll put you on the right track: 450 new patients in the last 24 hours. 93 new patients identified between midnight and 9AM. Indeed, 2 victims. One fully vaccinated, the other not. BTW, quite a few cases of vaccine-related deaths that go unreported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) So, the closures of businesses, restriction of operating hours, and overnight closure of public transportation applies to Bangkok and the five adjoining provinces starting Monday: . Also asking private businesses to allow work from home policies to the maximum extent possible. [Note: the government spokesman originally said public transit would be closed until 3 am daily, but later corrected that to say 4 am.] But the broader overnight curfew type restrictions apply to the broader list of 10 provinces: As do the restrictions on interprovincial travel starting Saturday: Screenshots from televised government news briefing Edited July 9, 2021 by TallGuyJohninBKK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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