Expert: COVID Corpses Are Noncontagious

[snoop1130]

 

BANGKOK, July 21 (TNA) – The bodies of dead COVID-19 patients are noncontagious, assured the Forensic Physician Association of Thailand.

 

Dr Smith Srisont, president of the association, said there was misunderstanding about the bodies of COVID-19 infected people that they could transmit the virus and the people who handled the bodies must wear protective gear.

 

He said that corpses could not transmit diseases, COVID-19 bodies were put in body bags with zippers and undertakers did not have to wear protective suits.

 

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[NCC1701A]

good news everyone. 

 

no worries as you step over the corpses piling up around you. 

[mtls2005]

Answer to a question I never expected to be asked here.

 

I guess this is a potential concern because people are dying in the street?

 

prayut's "survival boxes" to the rescue.

 

 

 

 

[rabas]

 

But if the corpse was holding a door handle, which it grasped shortly before death, there would be a small chance of contagion. I think his point is chances are small, so the news media claims corpses are 'Noncontagious'.

 

Tomorrow's click headline, "Patient infected by noncontagious corpse!".

 

[4MyEgo]

I read this just the other day on the CDC website when a mate of mine sent me a photo of Thai men in PPE clothing carrying a coffin from the back of a pick up, with my reply being, they don't need PPE clothing as it's not Ebola, just scaremongering, anyways it was backwards and forwards until I said, "whatever" you know the word you use when you have just had enough and you know your right but the other person doesn't want to give in.

 

So I will say it again, "whatever".

Edited July 21, 2021 by 4MyEgo

[RotBenz8888]

Never wrong with a smile, in any context...

[LazySlipper]

32 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

So I will say it again, "whatever".

Whatever

[dinsdale]

57 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Answer to a question I never expected to be asked here.

 

I guess this is a potential concern because people are dying in the street?

 

prayut's "survival boxes" to the rescue.

 

 

 

 

There is no evidence of an increased risk of transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19 to funeral industry workers who handle the bodies of those suspected of having, or confirmed to have, died from COVID-19. The greatest risk is likely to come from failure to employ infection prevention and control measures and contact with family members.

For more information on stopping the spread, visit Department of Health - Launch of the coronavirus (COVID-19) campaign.

Funeral industry personnel should however employ infection prevention and control measures when handling bodies. Further information is available in the NSW Infection Prevention and Control Policy (PD2017_013).

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infectious/factsheets/Pages/covid-19-funeral-directors.aspx

 

7 months ago. Good to see the Thai experts are once again keeping up. LOL.

[Elkski]

I read early on that they are contagious.  Even the fecal matter that is excreted after death.  All those virus cells don't just die the second someone suffocates.  There were studies on how long it can survive on certain surfaces.   Mr "whatever". I'm sure you will love to grab and use the deceased O2 mask???  The density of some cranial cavities varies drastically I have learned. 

[TKDfella]

The Corona viruses are not capsid, that is , they don't cover a capsule around them. Therefore they dry out more easily than capsuled viruses in the environment and must have a live cell host to multiply. So when all the cells in a human body die they take the Covid 19 virus with them...but how long does it take the human cells to die? It depends on many factors of which someone else here with medical knowledge might be able to answer. I don't know.

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He said that corpses could not transmit diseases, COVID-19 bodies were put in body bags with zippers and undertakers did not have to wear protective suits.

Yeah right ..... so why do we see bodies being taken to the temples for cremation the handlers are in full PPE?

Edited July 22, 2021 by hotchilli

[jacko45k]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He said that corpses could not transmit diseases,

Not convinced about that.......

[crazykopite]

Maybe he should tell that to all the countries effected in the U.K. the body is placed in the coffin straight away and the lid is sealed no family members are allowed to visit the funeral parlour and this has happened in a lot of countries I know this to be the case as I have lost both family and relatives living in separate countries who were not allowed to see the deceased person 

[Gandtee]

16 hours ago, rabas said:

 

But if the corpse was holding a door handle, which it grasped shortly before death, there would be a small chance of contagion. I think his point is chances are small, so the news media claims corpses are 'Noncontagious'.

 

Tomorrow's click headline, "Patient infected by noncontagious corpse!".

 

So if you got infected by touching the door handle it was a dead give away.????

[Tarteso]

COVID Corpses Are Noncontagious

 

Heaven forbid ! … Good to know

Edited July 22, 2021 by Tarteso

[Yewbzee]

So we are rightly told to wash our hands regularly due to the virus being transmitted to other surfaces from the epidermis which is the dead layer of outer skin yet they are inferring that when a person dies then that ceases to be a problem? Additionally there will still be plenty of fluids in the dead body that will harbour the virus for a while.

 

Their advice sounds totally misleading.

[4MyEgo]

16 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

Whatever

"Whatever"

[samtam]

19 minutes ago, Yewbzee said:

So we are rightly told to wash our hands regularly due to the virus being transmitted to other surfaces from the epidermis which is the dead layer of outer skin yet they are inferring that when a person dies then that ceases to be a problem? Additionally there will still be plenty of fluids in the dead body that will harbour the virus for a while.

 

Their advice sounds totally misleading.

And by "misleading" you mean "balderdash".

Edited July 22, 2021 by samtam

[ThLT]

This is false and bad advice.

COVID is contagious on surfaces (although barely after many hours). If someone has COVID, and coughs or touches their mouth/nose, then their hands and other things they touched are contagious. 

And a recently dead body is much better conditions for a virus to survive than surfaces.
 

Edited July 22, 2021 by ThLT

[Burma Bill]

20 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

He said that corpses could not transmit diseases, COVID-19 bodies were put in body bags with zippers and undertakers did not have to wear protective suits.

Oh really! Apologies for keep mentioning Cambodia, but for reference (15th March 2021):-

 

"Phnom Penh municipal authorities are preparing to build four electricity-run crematoriums on 10ha of land in Tasal commune ........ the new crematoriums are for burning the bodies of those who have died from Covid-19".

"We could not build crematoriums for Covid-19-related deaths in the business and commercial areas of a town or city because of the risks of spreading the disease."

"building the crematoriums was not meant as an insult to the lives of Covid-19 victims, rather it was being done thoughtfully and in a humanitarian spirit".

 

https://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/work-crematoriums-victims-covid-underway

 

All persons associated with the cremation wear protective gear.

 

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by Burma Bill
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[PETERTHEEATER]

20 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

good news everyone. 

 

no worries as you step over the corpses piling up around you. 

Shoot! I thought the figure next to me was sleeping.

[MyFriend You]

20 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

Whatever

Whatever What??  Maybe all the scientists on this forum has an answer??  This is getting about as screwey as my own government.

[connda]

18 months in.....if the news media stated that "Experts say" that running naked at midnight under a full-moon protects you from Covid.  Well, the results will be obvious.  "Expertism" is ushering in something very dark. And ever so slow.

Investigative journalism and fact-based research is spiraling down the pooper as "Experts" give the chain one last, good hard pull.  Soon only "experts" will matter.  "Experts say" will become defacto "truth."  Nothing else will be considered - or allowed.
Soon we'll see the Sun rising in the East and be told by "experts" that East is now West - and most will then parrot that "Expertism" as undeniable "fact" - The Sun Rises in the West!  To deny the fact will be heresy.  And disagree with that? 
Ridicule.  Social stigmatization.  Prison.  Exile. Worse?
We're so close, right here, right now.

If you were raised in my generation you were raised to be wary.  To question.  Then most my age have placed their heads in the porcelain receptacle of New Knowledge and have pulled the chain.  Where are we going?
"To New Normal!"
Hummm.

[connda]

Just now, connda said:

18 months in.....if the news media stated that "Experts say" that running naked at midnight under a full-moon protects you from Covid.  Well, the results will be obvious.  "Expertism" is ushering in something very dark. And ever so slow.

Investigative journalism and fact-based research is spiraling down the pooper as "Experts" give the chain one last, good hard pull.  Soon only "experts" will matter.  "Experts say" will become defacto "truth."  Nothing else will be considered - or allowed.
Soon we'll see the Sun rising in the East and be told by "experts" that East is now West - and most will then parrot that "Expertism" as undeniable "fact" - The Sun Rises in the West!  To deny the fact will be heresy.  And disagree with that? 
Ridicule.  Social stigmatization.  Prison.  Exile. Worse?
We're so close, right here, right now.

If you were raised in my generation you were raised to be wary.  To question.  Then most my age have placed their heads in the porcelain receptacle of New Knowledge and have pulled the chain.  Where are we going?
"To New Normal!"
Hummm.

When they come to pick up those bodies, watch them arrive in Hazmat suits and then spray the entire area with disinfectant. 
I'm not disagreeing with Dr Srisont.  What I'm saying is that the public has now been told one "reality" but when the bodies are collected they will be shown an alternate "reaility."

Which is "true?"  It probably doesn't matter.  What matters is the confusion and cognitive dissonance the contrasting 'realities' create in the minds of the public. 

[DefaultName]

Covid can be caught from surfaces, that's why there is so much disinfecting going on.  Bodies have surfaces.  The clothes they're wearing have surfaces.  So, covid can be caught from bodies.

[worgeordie]

Not even if you have sex with one...... just asking for a friend .????

regards Worgeordie

[AgMech Cowboy]

What I love about this: the bodies are not contagious, but we've got all these special instructions to dispose of mask that have on indication of being infected either...

 

Obviously I would not throw one in the street, but putting used mask in a zip lock bag and then disposing of them as hazardous material. Really???

[connda]

3 hours ago, DefaultName said:

Covid can be caught from surfaces, that's why there is so much disinfecting going on.  Bodies have surfaces.  The clothes they're wearing have surfaces.  So, covid can be caught from bodies.

Where's your sources and attribution links?  You don't have any.  I do.

"Quantitative microbial risk assessment (QMRA) studies have been conducted to understand and characterize the relative risk of SARS-CoV-2 fomite transmission and evaluate the need for and effectiveness of prevention measures to reduce risk. Findings of these studies suggest that the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection via the fomite transmission route is low, and generally less than 1 in 10,000, which means that each contact with a contaminated surface has less than a 1 in 10,000 chance of causing an infection"
Sources:

• A. M. Wilson, M. H. Weir, S. F. Bloomfield, E. A. Scott and K. A. Reynold, “Modeling COVID-19 infection risks for a single hand-to-fomite scenario and potential risk reductions offered by surface disinfection,” American Journal of Infection Control, vol. Article In Press, pp. 1-3, 2020.
• A. P. Harvey, E. R. Fuhrmeister, M. E. Cantrell, A. K. Pitol, S. J. M, J. E. Powers, M. L. Nadimpalli, T. R. Julian and A. J. Pickering, “Longitudinal monitoring of SARS-CoV-2 RNA on high-touch surfaces in a community setting,” Environmental Science & Technology Letters, pp. 168-175, 2020.
• A. K. Pitol and T. R. Julian, “Community transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by fomites: Risks and risk reduction strategies,” Environmental Science and Technology Letters, 2020.

[khaowong1]

12 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Yeah right ..... so why do we see bodies being taken to the temples for cremation the handlers are in full PPE?

I'm guessing because nobody really knows the answers and this is just being really careful. 

[khaowong1]

5 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Not even if you have sex with one...... just asking for a friend .????

regards Worgeordie

No photo's or video's please.  ????