Thai PM turns to Sputnik V jabs

[webfact]

Picture: Daily News

 

Thai prime minister Prayuth Chan-ocha is turning to the Russian produced Sputnik V vaccine for his frontline health workers.

 

This was revealed in a video conference meeting of the CCSA main committee that Prayuth chaired yesterday. 

 

The PM said that the necessary paperwork for Sputnik was being worked on. 

 

The PM also commented upon the necessity that Rapid Antigen Tests are controlled and the price is regulated. 

 

It was noted that infections in Bangkok were slowing but in the provinces they were on an upward trajectory.

 

The peak is expected sometime in the next one to two months, reported Daily News who said that 30,000 bed capacity in private and state hospitals was just about full.

 

Now people were being told to isolate at home and in something called community isolation. 

 

Meanwhile vaccine procurement continues with 10 million doses expected to be available in August and 30 million more Pfizer by the end of the year. 

 

Lockdowns were only showing 20% effectiveness in slowing the spread of the virus, the committee was told. 

 

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[HaoleBoy]

What happened to the donated 700,000 Pfizer doses allocated for Frontline workers ?  This is already in the country ... Why switch to Sputnik now?

 

Did the Chinese masters dictate that no US vaccines are to be used?

Edited August 2, 2021 by HaoleBoy

[ThailandRyan]

2 minutes ago, HaoleBoy said:

What happened to the donated 700,000 Pfizer doses allocated for Frontline workers ?  This is already in the country ... Why switch to Sputnik now?

Your guess is as good as mine. Plus what will he do with the 20 million plus of Pfizer he ordered

[seajae]

really have to wonder where the pfizer vaccines are going and if someone  is enriching themselves from them

[Snuller21]

And again, Again he turn to a socalled vaccine with no, NO protection against the Delta Variant. Why not continue with Pfizer and Moderna that are protecting against the Delta Variant. Does he want vaccinated people die on the streets all over Thailand?????

[mistral53]

Well, finally a vaccine I would accept to take - I hope it becomes more widely available.

[WhatsNext]

I got offered the pfizer suddenly out of nowhere from a hospital in Bangkok. Everything very strange. Sinovac isn't working much, Astra is dangerous if you are under 60 and healthy, pfizer is so convinced that their vaccine works, that they don't accept any responsibility. Plus everything is emergency use only and happy worrying for the next 10 years if you take one. I'll wait for novavax thank you.

[grandpa]

I am sure that the PM said months ago that he had accepted an offer of Sputnik V after a conversation with Putin!

[Scrotobike]

7 minutes ago, WhatsNext said:

I got offered the pfizer suddenly out of nowhere from a hospital in Bangkok. Everything very strange. Sinovac isn't working much, Astra is dangerous if you are under 60 and healthy, pfizer is so convinced that their vaccine works, that they don't accept any responsibility. Plus everything is emergency use only and happy worrying for the next 10 years if you take one. I'll wait for novavax thank you.

Lucky you.... no chance out here in the sticks.

[tomazbodner]

Sputnik works in a similar way to Astra Zeneca, just that it uses 2 different vectors between first and second jab, which probably (depending on what vectors they actually use) would make it more effective than Astra and J&J. There were not many side effects reported from it either. However, the company making them is new to vaccine production and they have little or no control over batches "while they are cooking" which is 8 weeks if I remember correctly. It is only at the end of the period that they compare the batch to reference sample and either pass it or toss it. Given many batches didn't match reference, their output was severely crippled since they had no way to check samples through the process, which would have saved them a lot of time. Due to that, their output was many times smaller than they originally predicted, and then, of course, someone started making fakes and selling them around, to ruin their reputation completely.

 

Hence from vaccine point of view, it's a more effective version of AZ, with efficacy in the same range as mRNA vaccines. But from availability point of view, it's basically non-existent.

[internationalism]

I think it was dr anutin who met sputnik representatives in bangkok just after songkran.

That was over 100 days ago.

That's the second time this vax is publicly mentioned.

Btw the PM can't pronounce names of all those vaccines. That one he called Sasaputnik, that is even reading from a full script just on front of him

Edited August 2, 2021 by internationalism

[Mr Meeseeks]

It's pin the tail on the donkey time. 

[JoePai]

Small problem :

 

Sputnik V isn’t yet approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) or the World Health Organization, meaning it cannot be used by COVAX

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38 minutes ago, Snuller21 said:

And again, Again he turn to a socalled vaccine with no, NO protection against the Delta Variant. Why not continue with Pfizer and Moderna that are protecting against the Delta Variant. Does he want vaccinated people die on the streets all over Thailand?????

Nonsense No real world studies yet exist to guage the performance of those vaccines. Antibody studies are very far from definitive. And the reason not to continue with the mRNA vaccines is obvious. You can't continue with what you can't get more of.

 

[placeholder]

43 minutes ago, mistral53 said:

Well, finally a vaccine I would accept to take - I hope it becomes more widely available.

Argentina abandoned Sputnik 5 because the Russians couldn't provide enough of the 2nd dose.

[mfd101]

30 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Sputnik works in a similar way to Astra Zeneca, just that it uses 2 different vectors between first and second jab, which probably (depending on what vectors they actually use) would make it more effective than Astra and J&J. There were not many side effects reported from it either. However, the company making them is new to vaccine production and they have little or no control over batches "while they are cooking" which is 8 weeks if I remember correctly. It is only at the end of the period that they compare the batch to reference sample and either pass it or toss it. Given many batches didn't match reference, their output was severely crippled since they had no way to check samples through the process, which would have saved them a lot of time. Due to that, their output was many times smaller than they originally predicted, and then, of course, someone started making fakes and selling them around, to ruin their reputation completely.

 

Hence from vaccine point of view, it's a more effective version of AZ, with efficacy in the same range as mRNA vaccines. But from availability point of view, it's basically non-existent.

Yes, I remember the early reports on Sputnik V a few months ago. They basically said that it was a good one (Russian labs are good) but Russia lacked sufficient high-quality manufacturing capability so would have to outsource manufacture to others ...

[placeholder]

22 minutes ago, JoePai said:

Small problem :

 

Sputnik V isn’t yet approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) or the World Health Organization, meaning it cannot be used by COVAX

Covax isn't going to play much of a role in helping Thailand. Thailand is far from being an impoverished nation.

[phetphet]

26 minutes ago, JoePai said:

Small problem :

 

Sputnik V isn’t yet approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) or the World Health Organization, meaning it cannot be used by COVAX

Anyone know if Thai produced AZ is approved by EMA?

[Dmitry2222]

32 minutes ago, JoePai said:

Sputnik V isn’t yet approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA) or the World Health Organization, meaning it cannot be used by COVAX

69 countries already registered Sputnik V. It is just politics.

 

46 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Hence from vaccine point of view, it's a more effective version of AZ, with efficacy in the same range as mRNA vaccines. But from availability point of view, it's basically non-existent.

10 countires have own production include Argentina, South Korea, India. 

Edited August 2, 2021 by Dmitry2222

[Phoenix Rising]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Covax isn't going to play much of a role in helping Thailand. Thailand is far from being an impoverished nation.

But in danger of becoming one judging by the latest economic figures being published.

[club]

1 hour ago, HaoleBoy said:

What happened to the donated 700,000 Pfizer doses allocated for Frontline workers ?  This is already in the country ... Why switch to Sputnik now?

 

Did the Chinese masters dictate that no US vaccines are to be used?

Good question,  and the article also said 30 million Pfizer at end of the year. I thought it was 20 million . Did they order another 10 million Pfizer? The 10 million this month should be 6 mil AZ and 4 mil Sinovac. Also how will they vaccinate 30 mil in August with 10 million doses? I think the health minister said this the other day. Interesting

[club]

13 minutes ago, Dmitry2222 said:

69 countries already registered Sputnik V. It is just politics.

 

11 countires have own production include Argentina, South Korea, India.

From what I have read it is a very good vaccine. 

[statman78]

1 hour ago, HaoleBoy said:

What happened to the donated 700,000 Pfizer doses allocated for Frontline workers ?  This is already in the country ... Why switch to Sputnik now?

 

Did the Chinese masters dictate that no US vaccines are to be used?

An excellent question.  The Pfizer is already here while it will be a while before the Sputnik arrives.  I my of missed it but a few months ago it was not approved yet by Thailand because of some missing data

[ChipButty]

Any port in a storm with this guy now

[koratkarlos]

Will there ever be a coherent plan that is followed with some degree of discipline.  I feel that if there was a plan people could adjust their lives accordingly.  But the ever changing directions leaves this old man scratching his head, wondering what will be.

[Stocky]

BBC was reporting Sputnik V vaccine was experiencing delays, so wouldn't hold out much hope pursuing this option.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58003893

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Thai prime minister Prayuth Chan-ocha is turning to the Russian produced Sputnik V vaccine for his frontline health workers

Wonder if that has anything to do with Pfizer recently raising its prices for its jab.
 

They’ve done this in the EU, it seems likely they will do it elsewhere as well.

 

I could be wrong though. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-moderna-raises-prices-its-covid-19-vaccines-eu-ft-2021-08-01/

Edited August 2, 2021 by Bluespunk
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[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, seajae said:

really have to wonder where the pfizer vaccines are going and if someone  is enriching themselves from them

Seeing as TIT, I’d say the odds are that quite a few someones are shamelessly abusing their power to enrich themselves.

[club]

6 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Seeing as TIT, I’d say the odds are that quite a few someones are shamelessly abusing their power to enrich themselves.

I would not be surprised if they sent most of them to where they are trying to open other Sandboxes . 

[herfiehandbag]

2 hours ago, seajae said:

really have to wonder where the pfizer vaccines are going and if someone  is enriching themselves from them

 

18 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Seeing as TIT, I’d say the odds are that quite a few someones are shamelessly abusing their power to enrich themselves.

 

9 minutes ago, club said:

I would not be surprised if they sent most of them to where they are trying to open other Sandboxes . 

Almost certainly there are individuals/agencies scrambling to get their grubby paws on the stuff. 

 

I'm also pretty sure that there will be moved to concentrate the distribution to areas of "particular economic interest to those with influence"!