Koh Samui: Immigration nab Hungarian widow on 4,165 day overstay

[Saratoga Slim Anon]

1 hour ago, mahtin said:

Simple if cynical explanation: husband died couple of weeks ago, so no more money, ergo no more tea money,

Just tidying up.

THIS????

[Chongalulu]

1 hour ago, Cat Boy said:

So...., like every other high profile arrest, will this poor widow, the "perp", be obliged to re-enact her "crime" and dramatize her 4,165 days of overstay for the RTP to video? 

Deporting her to her native Hungary from Thailand seems like a terrible fate given the Viktor Orbán dictatorship there.

Well at least she’ll be used to ‘dictatorship' by now ,eh? ???? 

[crazykopite]

Whilst I’m against those who overstay I sympathise with this woman if she recently lost her husband, she was most probably strolling along the beach grieving over her loss when these guys jumped out behind a Bush demanding to see her passport I really hope that they show some for, of kindness towards her and don’t send her up to the immigration detention centre in Bangkok l hope that during her stay on Samui that she has at least one genuine friend who will possibly help her even if it’s just a visit . She certainly doesn’t appear to be a hardened criminal 

[terryofcrete]

Pathetic and  frightening at the same time ! " Report Foreigners" ... protecting the security of the state ... with this kind of thinking and the publicity surrounding this triumphant capture of a bereaved woman one wonders if the IQ  of the RTP is even on a par with a 10 year old child. 

[crazykopite]

1 hour ago, Wuvu2 said:

Hmmm.  I've been here 15 years and never had the police or immigration officers check my visa while walking on the beach. There is something missing from this story. 

I have twice in 16 years thankfully I was carrying my pink I’d card issued with my house book both times they looked at it and wished me a good day 

[crazykopite]

45 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

Correct, what amazes me is how these long overstayers survived financially, without detection.

I say good luck to her, and if i was the LOS boss I would grant her residence.

Well done I hope you r treated with respect and kindness. 

If they had any respect and kindness they wouldn’t parade her in front of a camera for a political photo shoot these people don’t know the meaning of those two words as far as they are concerned we’re all dirty robbing farangs

[Archie Baker]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why did immigration suddenly notice her after all these years?

  Does someone want her "out the way" ?

How did her Husband die ?

What will happen to their business ?

Who will inherit it ?

Dead right. 4165 days then they find her. Crock if s.h.1.t.  someone wants rid of er. 

[WhiteBuffaloATM]

probably mental health problems elevated by husbands death….. nobody here can be unaware of the three month foreigner reporting/ visa extention cycles….. foolish PR stunt obviously has the opposite intended effect….. highlights gross Imm. negligence / incompetence……. this case should surely have been priority flagged by Imm. Computer after she failed to register after say 18 months from entering thailand……also encourages other overstayers big time……why dont we ever see any Wanted posters for criminals here ?

[Caldera]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

The Hungarian woman readily admitted she had arrived in Thailand on a tourist visa on 30th November 2009 and was permitted to stay until February 2010. 

She made the most out of her holiday. Clearly she behaved quite alright, otherwise she would have been dobbed in or found out long before. Hardly a threat to national security, this one.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, ezzra said:

Funny to see those immigration guys standing at attention around her as if she some kind a dignitary or something...so 11 years and 7 months without the proper documents, doesn't say much for those guys on such a small island, hopefully they will take it easy on her...

Yeah, next available airplane home to nothing.

[hotchilli]

2 hours ago, lom said:

They were able to nab her without using the BMW..

They get stuck on soft sand.

[Bobydog]

1 hour ago, Bundooman said:

I agree entirely. This lady probably relied on her husband to do the necessary paperwork while he was alive and may not have even been aware of what she was supposed to do.

I feel very sorry for her and the fact that she lost her husband recently just increases my sympathy for her.

She isn't a young woman and probably needs more help than the pompous attitude of the Immigration department with their proudly displayed, 'Caught a dangerous security risk' Photo Op.

Of course the law needs to be followed, but for crying out loud - some human kindness, please.

Many Wives the world over would leave management matters to their Husbands which would include necessary paperwork. So Husband had a business and wasn't required to report income, license etc etc so the failure to detect raises more questions here. I wish the Lady well.

[Jack Cook]

How utterly sad and pathetic. Evil evil

evil Farangs

[malthebluff]

It seems somebody wanted the husbands business after he died. Or no more brown envelopes going the right way.

[kiwikeith]

41 minutes ago, james1943 said:

I was a police officer in America for 28 years and many time you over look a so small misdemeanor because the person really did nothing that bad or did not hurt anyone. This poor lady just lost her husband and now they want to put he into more pain. Let the lady go if the only thing she done wrong was stay with and love her husband till the day he died then felt so lonely and was wondering on the beach that her and husband probably loved. The police are to also protect people also not just arrest good people

If only all police thought out things like this , best wishes

[Xonax]

1 hour ago, rott said:

Exactly, from the photo she doesn't look like a dosser and they don't normally do spot checks on random farang (do they?) so possibly someone ratted her out. As our American cousins say. 

Maybe they are checking, if all tourists in the Samui Sandbox are doing their overpriced mandatory tests, which is needed for the country to survive?

[Sydebolle]

An overstay is an overstay but to dramatize this harmless issue is seriously over the top and in line with the ongoing "Farang Bashing".

Immigration Bureau chief Lt-Gen Sompong Chingduang needs to be promoted to General-General for his successful hunting of dangerous elements by criminal foreign elements, such as this Hungarian widow. 

Well done - Sompong - keep up the good work. 

 

Naew Na must be thanked with three Big Wai to the floor and back to remind the superior Khon Thai to report all foreigners, guilty or not, on 1178 to maintain Thailand's security.

Maybe "Naew Na Farang Basher Newspaper" might push for a Four Digit phone number on Koh Tao with the Telephone Organization of Thailand. Plenty of "unsolved" murder cases pending against exclusively Farang - and yes, keep up the good work in promoting Thailand as a tourist destination. 

What a dual tier society ................ 

[ChrisKC]

Overstay = security threat? She is on Overstay - nothing else!

 

Do I know that for sure? No! But very unlikely, I think!

[RJRS1301]

5 hours ago, phetphet said:

That picture doesn't look right to me. Where is the obligatory big poster showing all the details of the arrest?

and the pointing stick

[mommysboy]

Poor woman.  Probably grief stricken. No mercy in Thailand.

[RJRS1301]

45 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Whilst I’m against those who overstay I sympathise with this woman if she recently lost her husband, she was most probably strolling along the beach grieving over her loss when these guys jumped out behind a Bush demanding to see her passport I really hope that they show some for, of kindness towards her and don’t send her up to the immigration detention centre in Bangkok l hope that during her stay on Samui that she has at least one genuine friend who will possibly help her even if it’s just a visit . She certainly doesn’t appear to be a hardened criminal 

I wonder if "wandering" is indicative of "lost" as well as in grief, there could be a cognitive disorder as well. 

Yes a long time over stayer, so it is a deliberate overstay, and irrespective of her current grief and distress, remains an overstayer.

I hope they treat her with dignity and compassion, and I hope further she has supports to assist wind up her affairs so as she does not end up impoverished and grieving in her home country.

 

[ChrisKC]

Just now, mommysboy said:

Poor woman.  Probably grief stricken. No mercy in Thailand.

You maybe right at the time she was "arrested" for Overstay) but has she been grief-stricken for over 11 years?

[Rampant Rabbit]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Naew Na reported in their standard rhetoric that this was part of Immigration Bureau chief Lt-Gen Sompong Chingduang's policy of keeping Thailand safe and secure from the danger represented by criminal foreign elements

Christ yeah shes probably an international arms  dealer, drug  runner (  oh  sorry reserved for govt ministers) and all round bad  sort

[kiwikeith]

17 minutes ago, Xonax said:

Maybe they are checking, if all tourists in the Samui Sandbox are doing their overpriced mandatory tests, which is needed for the country to survive?

I think ratted out No 1 on the thoughts list

[kiwikeith]

6 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

I wonder if "wandering" is indicative of "lost" as well as in grief, there could be a cognitive disorder as well. 

Yes a long time over stayer, so it is a deliberate overstay, and irrespective of her current grief and distress, remains an overstayer.

I hope they treat her with dignity and compassion, and I hope further she has supports to assist wind up her affairs so as she does not end up impoverished and grieving in her home country.

 

If we could only know , what thoughts these unique overstayers have, obviously high intelligence at survival, know full well how to manage accommodations and finance, Maybe some one will write a book one day " My big long life in Thailand without a Visa, I admire them for their skill, busted for them is the end of privacy and entry into the restricted world . God bless sanity xxx

[Ginner]

6 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Such a dangerous person?

Whilst I do not condone people who overstay or break the law, this lady is not really a threat to Thailand's security.

 

6 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Such a dangerous person?

Whilst I do not condone people who overstay or break the law, this lady is not really a threat to Thailand's security.

Commend those 3 brave officers bravely guarding such a violent overstayer. I wonder how many it will take to put a plastic bag over her head and try to extort money from her dead husbands business????????? 

 

[geisha]

I don’t know how old this lady is, but a lot of the older generation depend on their husband to keep papers, bank accounts etc in order.  Surely someone on here has more news on the couple and business ?  I can imagine a situation, ( as happened to one of my friends in EU) that when her partner died she had no access to bank accounts and when monthly payments turned up , she couldn’t access the accounts as they were not in her name !,   As for this lady, being in a foreign country, possibly without many friends, she could have found herself in dire straits as well as grief and shock.

It must be in local news there, and someone should at least call the Hungarian Embassy for her if it hasn’t already been done. A bit of sympathy needed here I think. She should be given time to sort herself out, not locked up. 

[Peterphuket]

5 hours ago, phetphet said:

That picture doesn't look right to me. Where is the obligatory big poster showing all the details of the arrest?

And pointing to the 'object'.

[GlassWayOverHalfFull]

6 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Such a dangerous person?

Whilst I do not condone people who overstay or break the law, this lady is not really a threat to Thailand's security.

Because she has deliberately broken the rules. Do you really think there should be no laws at all for immigration?

[RobU]

2 hours ago, Cat Boy said:

So...., like every other high profile arrest, will this poor widow, the "perp", be obliged to re-enact her "crime" and dramatize her 4,165 days of overstay for the RTP to video? 

 

I hope so, it would obviously take 4,165 days to do it properly,