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I used to live in Lake Green Condo (in the picture) back when Bangkok was still fun! 

 

I would not be surprised if several Bangkok condos experience the same fate as in FL within 10-15 years. Hopefully they are able to find the issues and evacuate or fix it in time.

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If one falls, the land price has likely risen, so you can just collectively sell your plot, and buy somewhere else (further out from the city), chances are the appreciation offsets any actual loss...

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Fact is that concrete deteriorates after 50 - 55 years. Excess of water or not, starts weakening even in dry conditions.

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57 minutes ago, Delight said:

I would never purchase a condo with a high level pool.

The building will move. Just a little bit. Water is heavy. The concrete base  could crack.

Water is heavy but concrete is heavier.

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6 minutes ago, Delight said:
25 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Water is heavy but concrete is heavier.

 Your point being?

Well, you seem to be unhappy with water being in a condo building because of it's weight yet you're happy with the weight of the much heavier concrete being there.   What was your point about water being heavy?

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Look at hotels like banyan tree and Crowne plaza built by japanese decades ago. Then turn around and have a look at any Thai condo 5 years or older. What do you see?

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26 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Well, you seem to be unhappy with water being in a condo building because of it's weight yet you're happy with the weight of the much heavier concrete being there.   What was your point about water being heavy?

Concrete is structural, water is not

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Just now, kwonitoy said:
27 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Well, you seem to be unhappy with water being in a condo building because of it's weight yet you're happy with the weight of the much heavier concrete being there.   What was your point about water being heavy?

Concrete is structural, water is not

The presence of a pool is taken into consideration during the structural design of a building isn't it?

 

By the way, my original comment was a little tongue in cheek.

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2 hours ago, Delight said:

I would never purchase a condo with a high level pool.

The building will move. Just a little bit. Water is heavy. The concrete base  could crack.

Hmmm... a cubic metre of concrete weighs 2.5 times what a cubic metre of water weighs. Without leaks, high story pool is no issue whatsoever.

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On 9/7/2021 at 5:58 PM, jazzdog32095 said:

No cellphone in 10 years. I intend to bi-pass the smart phone for the soon to be mandatory micro-chip embedded in the frontal lobe.  

 

2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Well some of those condo structures at Stonehenge are still standing, as well as a load of old Greek, Roman and Egyptian ones.

Stonehenge was extensively rebuilt in about 1902. Many of the fallen stone pillars were set upright in concrete. So what you see today is not that old,

Greek, Roman and Egyptian structures are built of stone and suffer only minor earthquake damage.

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The Miami collapse was mostly design failure then maintance followed by construction defects. Rebar exposed to water and oxygen expands 8x its' diameter blowing away surrounding concrete. It was built in 1988 so 30 years would be the time for a complete review of any structure similar. Personally I would never consider living in a 20 year old condo.

 

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1 hour ago, mikebike said:

Hmmm... a cubic metre of concrete weighs 2.5 times what a cubic metre of water weighs. Without leaks, high story pool is no issue whatsoever.

You wouldn't put an extra 100 tonne tub of concrete on top of your building but it's OK for water.

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Most condo swimming pools are very shallow so I think the weight is not that significant. Leaks from a saltwater pool could be an issue though.

 

I believe the main cause of the Miami collapse was saltwater corrosion from it being near to the sea. So that shouldn't be an issue for Bangkok condos.

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15 minutes ago, matchar said:

Most condo swimming pools are very shallow so I think the weight is not that significant.

20m x 5m x 1m deep = 100 tonnes of water.

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4 minutes ago, treetops said:

20m x 5m x 1m deep = 100 tonnes of water.

And each floor of the building probably weighs a few thousand tonnes so it's not that significant.

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I live in a 25 year old condo, with a beautiful pool buy before the days of space saving, ie,

the pool is on the ground. On checking the concrete pillars & structural beams the reo is nearly twice the size of present day Hi rises & the concrete (in the structural pillars  is close to undrillable.

All the fill in walls are only the small bricks but totally non load bearing & just to keep the weather & neighbours out.

It will last another 50 years for sure without an earthquake, God forbid

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