Popular Post BKKBike09 Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 I'm mid 50s, double vaxxed with AZ (1st dose in UK in April, 2nd in Thailand in early July). I felt a little off colour a couple of weeks back. Thought it was a head cold (main symptoms: runny/blocked nose, sore sinuses). No cough or fever. Did a rapid test two days later: negative. Did another one (from a different manufacturer) the next day: positive. Did another rapid test 3 days after that: also positive. Symptoms didn't get any worse but my sense of taste changed considerably after about 4-5 days and was off for about the same length of time. Taste came back but then realised sense of smell had basically disappeared. That came back a few days ago. I didn't do a PCR test because it would have meant going to a hospital when I was almost certainly infectious and then, of course, there's all the palaver that follows a positive PCR test. The wife was on my case to ring the MOPH Help Line to get official support for home isolation. I resisted that vigorously because I just wasn't very ill. I meet the criteria for home isolation (under 60, no underlying conditions, able to keep distance from other family members) but I didn't want to take the chance of guys in spacesuits turning up at my house and panicking all the neighbours. Instead I checked temp, BP, O2 sat four times a day for 5 days after the first positive rapid test. Wife insisted I take that herbal medicine (Fa Talai Jone) which I did to make her happy. I also said that if any symptoms worsened significantly - especially O2 sats - I would ring the help line or go and see a doctor. Took about 10 days or so for the symptoms to go and to feel fully energetic again. That said, I didn't feel very unwell at any point. I think I picked it up from another (double vaxxed) friend at a dinner 5 days before I first felt off-colour. He had many of the same symptoms as me starting a couple of days after that dinner and before I had any - although he subsequently tested negative three times with rapid tests. But who knows and I really don't care. I want a life that includes meeting friends and eating out. I hate wearing masks and I consider the primary purpose of vaccination is to reduce an individual's chance of getting seriously ill or dying. Which it appears to have done in my case - although of course it's also impossible to know whether I would have been more ill if I wasn't vaxxed / fully vaxxed. As for my double-vaxxed missus, despite sharing a bed, sharing food, sharing a car right up until I tested positive ... no symptoms and consistent negative rapid tests. Possibly because her 2nd shot was about 3 weeks before I tested positive, so she was at peak immunity? Who knows. So, anyone else in the DVBCC [Double Vaxxed But Caught Covid] club? 19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Black Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Just learnt yesterday from a friend I hadn't heard of in 3 weeks, that he was just released from hospital after being quite poorly. He had 2 jabs of covisheild, (Indian made AZ. ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post internationalism Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) I would test now for antibodies - positive will give you 90 days of entry to many countries in the world, if you need to travel. Those tests are cheapish 700-1500b. A positive pcr will give you 180 days of travel, and very unlikely you will be told to hospitalise or get into hospitel, because it's the end of a mild infection. Those documents would also allow you within thailand, if there are further waves, lock downs. Your illness protects you more than your vaxes, for longer and for many strains. What brand of tests turned negative and positive? I felt sick (and still do) after full day spend at cheng wattana air conditioning and with many hundreds people around. I fall sick 2 days later with very unusual gastric problem (but clearly not related to food) and temperature, sweating, strong headaches lasting for almost a day at each time (but not nigh time, so I was able to sleep well), lose of appetite, enlarged lymphatic nodes on the neck. So I bought ATK's (Lepu brand), both times negatives. Possible that was reaction for the second pfizer, which I had just 5 days before going to CW. But I would count myself lucky, if I really had covid and with only those little symptoms. So I can travel to europe without much hassle and I would claim my large insurance as a bonus (they pay on turning positive). Edited October 6, 2021 by internationalism 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluebluewater Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 I have known three people (not in Thailand) who fall under the category of DVBCC. All three have said " you don't want this". One had a bit of an easier time, the other two were bad sick. Even a couple of months later they still have effects of the virus pop up on them. You know what a mild case is not a days in hospital talk? It's when you don't need to go to the hospital. Really . . . You can have a temp of 104 and the trots and the bed sheets are wet for days, brain fog, etc., and that is now considered a mild case. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapson Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Now you are thankfully over it, have you tested again to get the negative confirmation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GinBoy2 Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 My wife had double Pfizer shots (we're in the US) and still caught covid pneumonia. She was pretty rough for a few days. But as the Doc said, "you're vaccinated so you just have to tough it out like a bad case of real flu and you'll be fine". He was right, but pretty sure after seeing how sick she was, straight up covid without being vaccinated is an express train to a ventilator! 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 Looks like the vaccines worked by reducing the severity, that's the idea, many still don't understand that 25 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 These are called "breakthrough infections". They do occur, but rarely.From UK research about 0.2% of people fully vaccinated (usually with AZ) get a breakthrough infection and the cases are typically mild and self-limiting, i.e. no severe disease and no "long COVID". https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext Both my comment and the link are referring to AZ and the mRNA vaccines, not Sinovac/Sinopharm. 13 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheryl Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: Looks like the vaccines worked by reducing the severity, that's the idea, many still don't understand that They reduce both the risk of getting infection and the risk of getting severe disease. But the efficacy is much greater for the second than for the first. 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mommysboy Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 I suppose the main question is: How much worse might it have been had you not been vaccinated? In my opinion, you only have to look at the real world hospitalization figures to get the answer. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven100 Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 Well, if it reduces the severity of the infection and therefore no major medical requirement then it has done it's job. 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dmaxdan Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 Well, I'm now double vaccinated with Pfizer but have no intentions of dropping my guard and will continue to live my life for the foreseeable future the same way I have been doing for the last 18 months. 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris.B Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) "The wife was on my case to ring the MOPH Help Line to get official support for home isolation. I resisted that vigorously because I just wasn't very ill. I meet the criteria for home isolation (under 60, no underlying conditions, able to keep distance from other family members) but I didn't want to take the chance of guys in spacesuits turning up at my house and panicking all the neighbours." You didn't notify the authorities because you didn't want to panic your neighbours? Is that your reason? ???? Edited October 6, 2021 by Chris.B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Tom Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Happened to both of my kids in the UK, double jabbed but still caught it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cmarshall Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 I have a relative in the US, aged 99 and double-vaccinated, caught Covid two weeks ago, into the ICU, heart stopped twice, but restarted itself, out now, back home, and recovering. The Covid never went to the lungs, but has had other effects. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 Nice to know there are no severe symptoms. I only know of 6 people who got Covid, 6 family members in Scotland. They were all over 75 and had basically no symptoms. I have heard of others dying but don't know anyone personally to have been sick. My wife is convinced she and I have had it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomyami Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Took 2 vaccines in my original home country at great exp 2x business flights wouldnt trust a shot in asia 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, tomyami said: wouldnt trust a shot in asia Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rimmer Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 A troll post casting doubt on India as a genuine covid vaccine manufacturing base and subsequent bickering posts have been removed 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neeranam Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Dmaxdan said: Well, I'm now double vaccinated with Pfizer but have no intentions of dropping my guard and will continue to live my life for the foreseeable future the same way I have been doing for the last 18 months. I feel you would be better living a normal life. Some say that if you get the virus, it is better. We are all going to get it, IMHO. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayboy Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, GinBoy2 said: covid without being vaccinated is an express train to a ventilator! No it's not.In the vast majority of cases it's not even necessary to go to hospital 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelV Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 To answer the OP's question: no, I haven't. Nobody I know has had Covid either. Except Bill Gates, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KannikaP Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 3 hours ago, internationalism said: So I can travel to europe But NOT to UK. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: 1 hour ago, tomyami said: wouldnt trust a shot in asia Why? Because he’s racist ? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteBuffaloATM Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 there is a known one in four chance of minor ( non- hospital stay) symptoms with AZ. but you, near 100% , wont die or get serious ( hospital stay) covid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: 2 hours ago, Dmaxdan said: Well, I'm now double vaccinated with Pfizer but have no intentions of dropping my guard and will continue to live my life for the foreseeable future the same way I have been doing for the last 18 months. I feel you would be better living a normal life. Some say that if you get the virus, it is better. We are all going to get it, IMHO. There are better treatments being developed for those who show symptoms of Covid-19. I would rather be exposed and get the virus when those better treatments are available than fall unwell this week. That said, having been vaccinated with Pfizer I am moving towards ’normalcy’ without being reckless, i.e. playing football, meeting up at friends houses, going to restaurants etc... and are with your comments that its better living a normal life with the caveat of still being sensible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Answer to the Ops Question. A friend in Canada, family of 4. All vaccinated - All caught Covid-19 (tested positive). Wife was unwell in bed (nothing serious), Husband and 2 Sons (18/20) all fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 Four unvaccinated friends of ours caught covid. Husband and wife from Sweden caught early strain of covid at a time when there were no covid lockdowns in Sweden. Both felt a bit rough for a fortnight but recovered at home with no issues. After an interval they then got jabbed with AZ. Husband and wife , Thai friends of wife in their mid 50's. Both had Delta a month ago. They were rounded up by the authorities and put into the local emergency quarantine facility. Not too bad as big place but only about 20 inmates and it was air conditioned. Both now recovered and back to normal, apparently none the worse for ware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 hours ago, BKKBike09 said: I consider the primary purpose of vaccination is to reduce an individual's chance of getting seriously ill or dying. glad to hear you are better and that is what the vax is supposed to do, as far as I know... the thing is I guess that you cannot prevent the virus from going up your nose which means you can spread it too.. maybe if nothing else this will have made you even more immune... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rickudon Posted October 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2021 A friend of my son in the UK (aged 29) has now had Covid-19 three times, twice since July after being at least vaccinated once. He is an idiot, careless with mask wearing and social distancing, got the last 2 from a nightclub and his birthday party. I think breakthrough infections are going to be a lot higher than reported. Because in most cases symptoms are minor, just like flu, not always any medical record of it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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