By Adam Judd

 

Thailand/UK - After months of regulatory red-tape tying up vaccines in Thailand being accepted as “fully vaccinated” in the UK, the rules are finally changing as of Monday, October 11th.

 

Previously, if one was vaccinated with AstraZeneca or other major brands in Thailand, they would not be considered “fully vaccinated” in the UK upon return, leading to confusion and anger on social media.

 

However, as of today, October 8th, 2021, that guidance has changed and will become effective on Monday, October 11th, 2021.

 

The complete guidance can be read by clicking right here.

 

We have paraphrased the guidance below.

 

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Full story: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-with-approved-covid-19-vaccination-programmes-and-proof-of-vaccination

 

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Vaccine certificates only

If you use a vaccine certificate as proof, it must be issued by a national or state-level public health authority, be in English, French or Spanish, and include as a minimum:

• your forename and surname(s)
• your date of birth
• vaccine brand and manufacturer
• date of vaccination for every dose
• country or territory of vaccination and/or certificate issuer

Sinovac not an approved medicine.....

"Arrivals from 37 more destinations will have their vaccination status certificates recognised, meaning they can avoid more expensive post-arrival testing requirements.

 

Vaccinated travellers from Brazil, Hong Kong, India, Pakistan, South Africa and Turkey will be treated the same as returning fully-vaccinated UK residents so long as they have not visited a red-list country in the 10 days before arriving in England"

 

 

18 minutes ago, stament said:

Sinovac not an approved medicine.....

Neither is Sinopharm.... Even if it was my "Vaccination Certificate" (That's a joke, it's a print out from the hospitals website so could easily be doctored) doesn't include my date of birth so no doubt wouldn't be valid ???? 

 

Anybody know where I can go & get re-vaccinated at a place that not only has a vaccine that is acceptable for travel to the UK but will also issue a proper vaccine certificate?

 

Failing that, if I were to return to the UK does anybody know how quickly I could get fully vaccinated there before returning to Thailand?  

 

 

Edit: Still great news though & real progress in opening up being able to travel between Thailand & UK ???? 

 

 

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by Mike Teavee

The easiest way is, to get an international vaccination certificate for 50 baht. I was in Nontaburi. I put my name on the waiting list in the morning and got the international yellow travel vaccination certificate after 4 hours. They do only 140 certificates per day. You must go early. After I was able to convert this into an EU vaccination certificate in my home country, which is recognized even in many non-EU countries that have not yet made a recognition regulation for vaccinations in Thailand. It's good to read that the slow UK authority get it ready now. This document is important for frequent flyers.

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by tomacht8

20 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

Failing that, if I were to return to the UK does anybody know how quickly I could get fully vaccinated there before returning to Thailand?  

Yes, you can get vaccinated immediately but you will have to wait 8 weeks between jabs as things stand at the moment.  That applies to both British citizens and foreign nationals visiting the UK. The UK doesn't discriminate when it comes to vaccinations - even illegal immigrants can be vaccinated, no questions asked.

 

If you want to be able to prove your vaccination status, you will need to have an NHS number - again that does not depend on your nationality.

 

Case in point:  My wife (Thai) visited me in the UK this year and had her first vaccination (without an NHS number) on 1 August.  I then registered her with my GP as a temporary resident and she had her NHS number within 2 weeks.  She then downloaded the NHS Application to her phone and we got in touch with the vaccination centre she had her jab at and asked them to update her details to the NHS using her NHS number.  Within 2 days, proof of her vaccination was registered and appeared on the NHS Application.  She had her second vaccination on 2 October which was also registered against her NHS number within 24 hours.

 

You can access your vaccination certificates without the NHS App on your phone - you can ask for a paper version by post but you will need an NHS number.

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by KhaoYai

34 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

 

Failing that, if I were to return to the UK does anybody know how quickly I could get fully vaccinated there before returning to Thailand?  

 

The quickest way is to vaccinate with one shot J&J Janssen. After 2 weeks you are considered as fully vaccinated.

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by tomacht8

No mention of a 3rd jab.  I wonder if a combination of sinovac/AZ plus 3rd jab of AZ/Pfizer/Moderna would meet the criteria?

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by stament

None of the Chinese vaccinations are recognized by the UK. I guess some of you will have to leave your gf or wife behind. At least that's the reason I would tell my partner she can't go with. For once the UK govt is of use! 

Edited October 7, 20214 yr by inThailand

2 minutes ago, stament said:

No mention of a 3rd jab.  I wonder if a combination of sinovac/AZ plus 3rd jab of AZ/Pfizer/Moderna would meet the criteria?

Sinovac + AZ + AZ sure.

For other vaccination combinations, you must read the fine print in the vaccination regulations of your destination country.

59 minutes ago, stament said:

Sinovac not an approved medicine.....

TRUTH

I wonder if they’ll accept the electronic certificate on the Mor Phrom app. It’s in English (and Thai) and contains all the information they require. My paper certificate from the hospital is printed in black and white and could easily be forged. I guess maybe will have to get a yellow  ‘vaccine passport’. 

53 minutes ago, Mike Teavee said:

Neither is Sinopharm.... Even if it was my "Vaccination Certificate" (That's a joke, it's a print out from the hospitals website so could easily be doctored) doesn't include my date of birth so no doubt wouldn't be valid ???? 

 

Anybody know where I can go & get re-vaccinated at a place that not only has a vaccine that is acceptable for travel to the UK but will also issue a proper vaccine certificate?

 

Failing that, if I were to return to the UK does anybody know how quickly I could get fully vaccinated there before returning to Thailand?  

 

 

Edit: Still great news though & real progress in opening up being able to travel between Thailand & UK ???? 

 

 

mine includes  all the things the Uk asks  for from the hospitsal at Sam Roi  Yot

4 minutes ago, Wiggy said:

I wonder if they’ll accept the electronic certificate on the Mor Phrom app. It’s in English (and Thai) and contains all the information they require. My paper certificate from the hospital is printed in black and white and could easily be forged. I guess maybe will have to get a yellow  ‘vaccine passport’. 

If you have the time, I recommend that you get the yellow international vaccination certificate. Nobody wanted to see my Thai certificate of origin from the hospital. With the yellow vaccination book I was able to get the transfer to an EU wide recognition. I think that will work in the UK too.

1 hour ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

Vaccine certificates only

If you use a vaccine certificate as proof, it must be issued by a national or state-level public health authority, be in English, French or Spanish, and include as a minimum:

• your forename and surname(s)
• your date of birth
• vaccine brand and manufacturer
• date of vaccination for every dose
• country or territory of vaccination and/or certificate issuer

Does anyone reckon a private hospital in Bangkok, where I hope to get my Moderna shots, qualifies as a "national or state-level public health authority"? Doesn't sound like to me. Those words denote a State entity must give the certificate, not the hospital.

Just now, sharecropper said:

Does anyone reckon a private hospital in Bangkok, where I hope to get my Moderna shots, qualifies as a "national or state-level public health authority"? Doesn't sound like to me. Those words denote a State entity must give the certificate, not the hospital.

well you should be able to get the yellow  vaccination  book after having that done

27 minutes ago, Rampant Rabbit said:

mine includes  all the things the Uk asks  for from the hospitsal at Sam Roi  Yot

As does mine (from Phuket).

38 minutes ago, Wiggy said:

My paper certificate from the hospital is printed in black and white and could easily be forged. I guess maybe will have to get a yellow  ‘vaccine passport’. 

I am wondering about this as well, the paper certificate we were given meets all the requirements and therefore should, theoretically, be accepted. 

 

Have you seen the USA one it's even easier to forge, and thats accepted.

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Approved vaccines and the list of countries and territories with approved COVID-19 proof of vaccination for travel to England.

So what about the rest of the UK?

4 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

I am wondering about this as well, the paper certificate we were given meets all the requirements and therefore should, theoretically, be accepted. 

 

Have you seen the USA one it's even easier to forge, and thats accepted.

I haven’t seen the US version, but I think I’ll get a ‘Vaccine Passport’ anyway, just for peace of mind. 

Sense prevails at last

 

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

The easiest way is, to get an international vaccination certificate for 50 baht. I was in Nontaburi. I put my name on the waiting list in the morning and got the international yellow travel vaccination certificate after 4 hours. They do only 140 certificates per day. You must go early. After I was able to convert this into an EU vaccination certificate in my home country, which is recognized even in many non-EU countries that have not yet made a recognition regulation for vaccinations in Thailand. It's good to read that the slow UK authority get it ready now. This document is important for frequent flyers.

Do they actually have to see airline tickets?   Did you provide such?

 

I expect many people would like the vaccine passport in preparation of foreign travel....before they have actually made air travel reservation.

2 hours ago, stament said:

Sinovac not an approved medicine.....

AZ wasn't either and by approving it now they now admit they where wrong

16 minutes ago, LennyW said:

So what about the rest of the UK?

????

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

The easiest way is, to get an international vaccination certificate for 50 baht. I was in Nontaburi. I put my name on the waiting list in the morning and got the international yellow travel vaccination certificate after 4 hours. They do only 140 certificates per day. You must go early. After I was able to convert this into an EU vaccination certificate in my home country, which is recognized even in many non-EU countries that have not yet made a recognition regulation for vaccinations in Thailand. It's good to read that the slow UK authority get it ready now. This document is important for frequent flyers.

I would expect this process to be made a lot easier - perhaps with an online application, as it stands it is unacceptable to have to go in person to Bangkok 

Vaccine mixing not recognised. Barow just had confirmed by Brit Ambassador.

36 minutes ago, pagallim said:

As does mine (from Phuket).

I have yet to get mine but this  paper  will suffice for what the UK govt requires 

Understand that AZ administered in Thailand is now to be accepted. However, there was the issue that AZ manufactured in Thailand wasn't approved. Has this changed?

So off the red list and most vaccine brands now accepted. Well that didn't take long did it.

 

Thankfully 'the world' has finally realized that enough is enough of his nonsense and we need to all start getting on with life again.

 

Any curtain twitchers remaining, you are welcome to stay behind your sofa.