Thailand reopening: 9pm booze ban in certain areas could be lifted by mid-November

[Wabel]

1 hour ago, Antiparovian said:

Personally, I would have carrying a suitcase as a condition of entry,,,,,

Don’t put more stupid ideas in their heads 

[Bangkok Barry]

6 hours ago, actonion said:

They are waiting to see what arrival numbers  are like, if they are way down then they will open pubs bars etc .. if numbers reach what they are  prediciting  then i think the opening of bars pubs etc will be delayed again 

Chicken and egg situation, then.

[Will B Good]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Heath Minister and DPM Anutin Charnvirakul said that the opening of the country had been seamless. 

On both days?

 

Success!

[sandhurstmolonski]

Anything that just assists getting us open , it's all a start ..

Lets put the ludicrous overeactions aside and get on with life , life is for living , and you must live and thrive just ..

GET THE BARS OPEN , with no limit , you don't HAVE to attend if you are a fearful one .

[robertson468]

6 hours ago, Walker88 said:

More or less connected to this....the requirement that restaurants have an SHA cert in order to serve alcohol....

 

Speaking with a few restaurants, it seems this came as a surprise, and the website where one could apply was unreachable for a few days because of heavy traffic. Some almost completely filled out the onerous application, then were bumped from the site, forcing them to go back to square one.

 

Venues must send a few dozen photos of their place, including the various signs asking for social distancing, instructing folks how to wash their hands, photos of the temp gauge, photos of all the containers of hand gel, etc. Venues also had to relate how they 'teach' customers about the need for all the Covid mitigation measures, as if the customers had been on the moon for the last 2 years and hadn't yet heard of Covid.

 

Some people who successfully completed the form were called and told to do it again another day, because the health ministry lacked the staff to look over all the applications, and some were likely to get lost.

 

When finally and irrevocably completed, applicants got a message saying the certificate of SHA approval would come anywhere from within a few weeks to a few months, but simply filing the application---and showing the "Done!" message to cops if needed---would give them authority to sell alcohol until 9PM.

 

Quite the process, which seems to be being created on the fly...and there are flies in the ointment.

 

It's called Autocracy!   We make the rules and you follow.

[Will B Good]

6 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Speaking with a few restaurants, it seems this came as a surprise, and the website where one could apply was unreachable for a few days because of heavy traffic. Some almost completely filled out the onerous application, then were bumped from the site, forcing them to go back to square one

You would like to think gaining SHA or SHA+ status was an onerous task primarily because of the detailed on-site audits that have to.......oh wait.....this is Thailand.

[brucegoniners]

I've got news for these people. 1) If they don't lift the booze ban and open the bars they'll get a small percentage of the number of tourists they expect and 2) Those who travel here, only to find out there is no alcohol served will be so <deleted> off they'll never return.

 

Pretty much everyone likes a drink or two on vacation with few exceptions.

 

Why this government is always so anti booze, acting like it's the answer to every one of the country's ills is beyond me.

[zzaa09]

Farang Ghetto centered problems. 

Pathetic. 

 

 

Ho Hum...

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, brucegoniners said:

I've got news for these people. 1) If they don't lift the booze ban and open the bars they'll get a small percentage of the number of tourists they expect and 2) Those who travel here, only to find out there is no alcohol served will be so <deleted> off they'll never return.

 

Pretty much everyone likes a drink or two on vacation with few exceptions.

 

Why this government is always so anti booze, acting like it's the answer to every one of the country's ills is beyond me.

Along with the stringent health insurance policies and the steady elimination of bars, clubs the tourists they don't like are slowly being discouraged..........and then the millionaires will come instead ......????

[zzaa09]

26 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Along with the stringent health insurance policies and the steady elimination of bars, clubs the tourists they don't like are slowly being discouraged..........and then the millionaires will come instead ......????

Hope springs eternal......

 

 

I see the day when we escape the ever-toxic and make believe elixir of tourism and put it to rest. 

[Burma Bill]

9 hours ago, webfact said:

reopening of the country was for all people not just the rich

Well I never, he "flip flops" again!!! I thought his original intention was to open the country to "high class" rich tourists - did they ever materialize??

[VBF]

8 hours ago, Gandtee said:

Say nothing? What.? Miss the opportunity to have your name on the media, even if you turn out to be shown as a buffoon?

Well it worked for Trump, Johnson, Merkel and Macron  didn't it? ????????

[Harveyboy]

6 hours ago, Farmerslife said:

Yes, but banning Thais from their own bars would seem a bit harsh.????

 

What's more, I don't know about you but I'm not overly keen on seeing a group of obese, elderly, balding, sweaty farang guys pole dancing in my favourite haunt. 

Think I'll give that one a miss. ????

don't forget to mention the wife beater vest and flip flops.. 

[itsari]

11 hours ago, HaoleBoy said:

Upping the "last call" time for restaurants  to 10pm sounds good.

But, do this for ALL the sandboxes and not just BKK and Phuket.  There's no reason Chiang Mai shouldn't have alcohol in restaurants now too.  Yes, Covid cases are rising in CM at the open markets but still no where close to the BKK numbers.

Chiang Mai is not close to Bangkok with there population either. 

 

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[Jiggo]

13 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Back packers who put Thailand on the map, especially Phuket

More so Samui about 20 years ago, money going directly  into Thai locals pockets, not corporate big business, and before mass tourism. 

[welshguy]

1 hour ago, Jiggo said:

More so Samui about 20 years ago, money going directly  into Thai locals pockets, not corporate big business, and before mass tourism. 

More like 40 years ago!

 

The first time I went to Thailand, was in the early 80s, used to spend the winter times, back packing in  Thailand.staying 99% of the time in Samui,

 

Ahh those were that days!

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm….. what a good idea. They certainly have some erudite people working in the Thai government?

[Sharron Merrilees]

Just may be they could try what is happening down here in some part's of Australia,The Gov here has put out an app with a QR code with prove that you have been doubled Vaxx to get in to any pub or club. It may mean that they have to have someone on the door usurly security guard but at less it keeps just about every one happy. I'm back at work after 4 months off. I work in a club and the price of a beer is going up to $7.50  spirits $12.50  as of the 1st Dec. Smokes are up to $45.oo pkt of 30 it is cheaper to go  on the the happy weed.  Our government stuff's everything up but I guess it is more taxes for them. 

[ChipButty]

4 hours ago, welshguy said:

More like 40 years ago!

 

The first time I went to Thailand, was in the early 80s, used to spend the winter times, back packing in  Thailand.staying 99% of the time in Samui,

 

Ahh those were that days!

I had a friend who had some high powered job in the city of London and used to do that every year disguised as a back packer off he'd go for a month staying in hostels and guest houses around south east Asia, he used to say he doesn't want to see another suit or shirt and tie for a month,

Obviously with his American Express tucked away in his back pocket for emergencies 

[yogi yogi]

u can just drink booze before 9pm and spread covid around before 9pm only 

[ChipButty]

12 minutes ago, Sharron Merrilees said:

Just may be they could try what is happening down here in some part's of Australia,The Gov here has put out an app with a QR code with prove that you have been doubled Vaxx to get in to any pub or club. It may mean that they have to have someone on the door usurly security guard but at less it keeps just about every one happy. I'm back at work after 4 months off. I work in a club and the price of a beer is going up to $7.50  spirits $12.50  as of the 1st Dec. Smokes are up to $45.oo pkt of 30 it is cheaper to go  on the the happy weed.  Our government stuff's everything up but I guess it is more taxes for them. 

I went to a pub in Phuket town the other night, first time in over a year and sure enough the price had gone up 30 baht on a pint ok that was imported beer 30 baht is a bit steep, I think

[jacko45k]

21 hours ago, mokwit said:

So if you took 1st Nov as the opening date and booked a 2 week holiday you will be leaving just as it all opens up. I just don't know what more the Thai authorities could do to make Thailand more of an "avoid" destination.

That would have been folly anyhow, to arrive as the new systems were under initial test. Be thankful for small mercies, this is as I expected when they previously only opened up to Bangkok/Phuket and Krabi eateries. Pattaya will be set free soon.....

[Walker88]

14 hours ago, robertson468 said:

It's called Autocracy!   We make the rules and you follow.

I have come to learn that there is some unknown critical level of "rules" that must be met in order for some measure to be deemed 'governance'. It's a bit obscure what the number of rules is, but it seems to be at least 20. Construct a measure with only 19 rules, and it just doesn't fly. 20+ makes the grade.

 

There is also some minimum number of pages that must be met in any application for anything, lest it not be official, and certainly not reaching the level that would allow some bureaucrat to find a way to supplement his or her income by 'granting a concession' on an applicant's failure to produce the requisite number of pages. I know from personal experience that for a Non-B business/investor visa, the number of pages is at least 100. I also know these applications are never actually viewed, and merely end up in a pile stacked against a wall in Immigration, waiting to be tossed into a shopping cart then ferried off to some limbo where time, the elements, and Newton's Law on entropy return them to the state of nature.

 

Oh---PHOTOS---there MUST be photos. For the Non-B business/investor visa one must submit 20 or so 'action shots' of the applicant in an office environment, either barking out orders or pondering some nearly impenetrable business decision. Having stacks of papers on a desk adds to the mood of the images and carries a lot of weight in the application process. I think there's a business niche for some entrepreneur to rent out a Potemkin Office, a place where Non-B applicants can manufacture the image of a business magnate, deserving of the visa.

 

As I noted in my previous post, this SHA cert is on the bandwagon of 20+ photos as part of the application process. Like the proverbial gentle wave of the hand that the UK monarchy seems to teach its royalty when acknowledging the existence of the nation's subjects, there is a way of pointing that must be evidenced in all the photos in the SHA process, just in case the viewer cannot locate the 'social distancing' placard or the ubiquitous hand gel bottles placed strategically around the venue.

 

Now you know.

[NoshowJones]

"Thai Rath quoted PM Prayuth Chan-ocha who is attending the COP26 climate change conference in Glasgow as saying that he was delighted with Thailand's reopening on Monday". What is this unelected Military Academy educated general doing mixing with properly educated politicians, they must all be laughing at him as soon as he opens his mouth.

Edited November 4, 2021 by possum1931

[stephenterry]

On 11/3/2021 at 10:45 AM, HaoleBoy said:

Yes, Covid cases are rising in CM at the open markets but still no where close to the BKK numbers.

I suggest the Covid cases are rising in Chiang Mai, owing to crowded shopping centres, malls and other large outlets, like Big C, Tesco, Macro and Banks under one roof, NOT open markets which are outside in the fresh air, and less likely to be any major source of spreading infection.

 

 

[stephenterry]

As for the continuing alcohol ban for restaurants  - not the massive hundred seater barbecue ones crowded by Thai families, but including small scale 'tourist ones', there ought to be a distinction between small and large, or no restrictions for all and sundry. 

 

Much too complicated for Thai government to process, though. Forget I posted this.

[sambum]

On 11/3/2021 at 10:45 AM, HaoleBoy said:

Upping the "last call" time for restaurants  to 10pm sounds good.

But, do this for ALL the sandboxes and not just BKK and Phuket.  There's no reason Chiang Mai shouldn't have alcohol in restaurants now too.  Yes, Covid cases are rising in CM at the open markets but still no where close to the BKK numbers.

Probably why Chiang Mai hotels have ZERO bookings for foreign tourists!

[sambum]

3 hours ago, stephenterry said:

I suggest the Covid cases are rising in Chiang Mai, owing to crowded shopping centres, malls and other large outlets, like Big C, Tesco, Macro and Banks under one roof, NOT open markets which are outside in the fresh air, and less likely to be any major source of spreading infection.

 

 

Just remind me,  was the original source of Covid-19 not thought to be a food  market in Wuhan City, China?.

[stephenterry]

On 11/4/2021 at 5:15 PM, sambum said:

Just remind me,  was the original source of Covid-19 not thought to be a food  market in Wuhan City, China?.

Time you moved on. The latest evidence  - not admitted by the Chinese - was from an infection  leak at the Wuhan research centre. As you could be well aware, they kept bats in their labs used for experimenting. 

 

It's a scientific plus that open air environments are not regarded as a major source of infection. It's enclosed places that are more likely to harbour the virus. Google it, if you're not convinced.