natway09 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 The guy is a goose & can not lie straight in bed. Why does he just not come out & tell the truth, after all Sinovac is not even made in his, the worlds greatest country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul1804 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 What a <deleted>!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herfiehandbag Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 His reputation on such matters is, umh, as full of holes as a Swiss cheese? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blumpie Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Yes, it actually has been scientifically proven to be inferior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 6 hours ago, itsari said: I am sure you have way more insight in all The fact remains the vaccines produced by Chinese companies have saved lives and been made available well before western companies. What has a Chinese telecom company to do with vaccines? What has trade secrets got to do with anything? You are married to a Chinese woman . So that makes you knowledgable about Chinese pharmaceutical companies? I agree with most of what you wrote. But the reason Chinese vaccines were made available before other vaccines was that phase 3 clinical trials hadn't been done when these vaccines were released. The same goes for the vaccine from Russia. And oddly enough, despite this, Thailand purchased large quantities of this vaccine while delaying approval of the Pfizer vaccine for several months after its phase 3 clinical trials had been concluded and the vaccine approved for use in the USA, Canada, and the EU. Thailand didn't even attempt to purchase Astra-Zeneca's vaccine from outside the country even though it was much less expensive than Sinovac's vaccine. Hmmm.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bradiston Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, placeholder said: I agree with most of what you wrote. But the reason Chinese vaccines were made available before other vaccines was that phase 3 clinical trials hadn't been done when these vaccines were released. The same goes for the vaccine from Russia. And oddly enough, despite this, Thailand purchased large quantities of this vaccine while delaying approval of the Pfizer vaccine for several months after its phase 3 clinical trials had been concluded and the vaccine approved for use in the USA, Canada, and the EU. Thailand didn't even attempt to purchase Astra-Zeneca's vaccine from outside the country even though it was much less expensive than Sinovac's vaccine. Hmmm.... Aren't you forgetting the X factor of SBS? And what a train wreck that turned into. Much of the Thai government's procurement policy was based around the assumption that Thailand would somehow be self sufficient, with 10 million doses a month. Of course, it all went embarrassingly wrong, and at that point, Anutin should have been fired. But no. They laid into Thanathorn instead for asking for details of the contract, threatening him with 112 etc etc. That's what is totally unforgivable. Not the Sinovac saga. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 11 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Have no idea what this above is supposed to mean for actual travelers??? Clear as mud! From crew info I have heard to To go to a Geneva restaurant for example you need some kind of Swiss QR code. You can take your vaccine data/certificate/ EU certificate to a local Chemist/Pharmacy Then the Pharmacy can hook you up with the QR code. Or else you will be stuck in the hotel with room service or takeaway food, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Hareways Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 15 hours ago, Saanim said: Any similar "serious" comments on Thai forums by Thai people in UK about the fired UK health minister - what was his name? Afterwards, hasn't he been supposed for another good position, however, it's not going forward? Hi, are you Anutin commenting under a false name? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentors65 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Captain Monday said: From crew info I have heard to To go to a Geneva restaurant for example you need some kind of Swiss QR code. You can take your vaccine data/certificate/ EU certificate to a local Chemist/Pharmacy Then the Pharmacy can hook you up with the QR code. Or else you will be stuck in the hotel with room service or takeaway food, Yes, you need the Swiss Covid Zertifikat to enter Restaurants or Bars etc. As App or on paper. Otherwise you have to sit outside the Bar in the cold. Edited November 14, 2021 by Mentors65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mentors65 said: Yes, you need the Swiss Covid Zertifikat to enter Restaurants or Bars etc. As App or on paper. Otherwise you have to sit outside the Bar in the cold. How efficient. Papiers s'il vous plaît 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I know where his brown envelopes come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenneth White Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Is the health minister here in Thailand a doctor? If not why is he the health minister? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vVDB Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Sinovac, Sinopharm and Sputnik have not applied for authorization on the European and American markets. robust scientific studies are required. scientific studies are still being analyzed in the USA and Europe and shortcomings have recently been reported without fundamentally changing the conclusions (fortunately) Remember... Hungary refused the Sputniks it had ordered because they were not identical to the reference samples ... Chile is vaccinated with Chinese vaccines, Delta has arrived and has done very badly ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 22 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Not inferior in Thailands' view.....just rejected by the western world! Is it not that the western world won’t acknowledge the Sino vaccines because of where they originate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karma80 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Almer said: Is it not that the western world won’t acknowledge the Sino vaccines because of where they originate? Australia and several other counties are happy to recognise Sinovac for travel without approval for emergency use in their own country. After all, there are Chinese students that will need to come spend $$$ in universities.. And, the inconvenient reality that many citizens overseas have had Sinovac because there was no alternative. I don't think any country yet has the legal stomach to insist that a person undergoes a second round of vaccination with no science to back it up. Edited November 15, 2021 by Karma80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Almer said: Is it not that the western world won’t acknowledge the Sino vaccines because of where they originate? Actually, I believe most do allow the Chinese vaccines to qualify travelers to enter their country including the United States. But it should be noted that WHO took a long time to approve the vaccines because of the lack of documentation in respect to phase 2 and phase 3 clinical trials. Edited November 15, 2021 by placeholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 He states it's OK, and yet, Thailand stopped using it. Actually it's the only one I would use, as made the old fashion way, and not mRNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saanim Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Kenneth White said: Is the health minister here in Thailand a doctor? If not why is he the health minister? As opposed to other countries where the health ministers are always doctors, aren't they? For instance in UK, what education do they have (the present one and the one before him)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Says the guy who has no medical qualifications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 The same genius who claimed that "caucasians" were spreading Covid. A totally credible source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickelbeer Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 And Laetril cures AIDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lingba Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Tell this idiot to shut up..he has no idea what he is talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Anutin Charnvirakul is nothing but another Thai blowhard politician. He has no medical training at all unless he took a CPR/Standard First Aid course while in the US studying engineering at Hofstra University. Therefore his stance on Sinovac is simply his non-medical opinion and should be taken as such. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeMagnet1 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 6:26 AM, vVDB said: Sinovac, Sinopharm and Sputnik have not applied for authorization on the European and American markets. robust scientific studies are required. scientific studies are still being analyzed in the USA and Europe and shortcomings have recently been reported without fundamentally changing the conclusions (fortunately) Remember... Hungary refused the Sputniks it had ordered because they were not identical to the reference samples ... Chile is vaccinated with Chinese vaccines, Delta has arrived and has done very badly ... SV, Sinopharm and Sputnik have all applied applied for authorisation in the EU 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FridgeMagnet1 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 8:01 PM, placeholder said: And yet Thailand stopped buying Sinovac's vaccine. Did China tell the Thai Government to do that? Don’t bring logic into this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 A post making unsourced and unsubstantiated claims re mRNA COVID vaccines has been removed. If you're going to make such claims, you'd better back them up with supporting quotes from credible sources and weblinks to those sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marley01 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 With comments like this, we all know now who’s palms were greased with Chinese payouts. This goose will be a lot richer. rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Fairfield said: Public Health Minister Anutin Charnvirakul has said Sinovac is not inferior to other vaccines But Thailand will not use it any more. What do you do after you paint yourself into a corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymahoney Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) Cambodia’s Reopening Is Propelled by Vaccinations -- Updated Nov. 19, 2021, (But )citing the rapid pace of inoculations and a vaccination rate of 88 percent, Prime Minister Hun Sen accelerated that plan and said that fully vaccinated tourists could arrive without quarantine, effective on Monday. About 90 percent of Cambodia’s vaccines came from China, including more than nine million doses of Sinovac and nearly four million doses of Sinopharm. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/18/world/covid-vaccine-boosters-mandates Edited November 20, 2021 by jerrymahoney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millcx Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/14/2021 at 4:17 PM, bradiston said: Aren't you forgetting the X factor of SBS? And what a train wreck that turned into. Much of the Thai government's procurement policy was based around the assumption that Thailand would somehow be self sufficient, with 10 million doses a month. Of course, it all went embarrassingly wrong, and at that point, Anutin should have been fired. But no. They laid into Thanathorn instead for asking for details of the contract, threatening him with 112 etc etc. That's what is totally unforgivable. Not the Sinovac saga. It’s obvious that Anutin was making a lot of people a lot of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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