jacko45k Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Almer said: Somebody made a mint on these for sure There is money in it, old is gold! Edited December 15, 2021 by jacko45k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almer Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, jacko45k said: There is money it, old is gold! Muck is money they say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wuvu2 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Brilliant move by Japan - Thailand will be buying overpriced replacement parts for decades. Gillette used to give away their razors for free, but they sure made a lot of money selling razor blades ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raybangkok Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) Difficult to compare Edited December 15, 2021 by Raybangkok Duplicate Photo 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
law ling Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 There're finally here! Next step: Get the refurbishment budget approved and paid. Then: After all possible skimming, provide years of "useful employment" for relevant cousins, brothers-in-law, friends of friends, etc. Finally: Bookmark this story for follow-up in five years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniggie Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Crossy said: Looks like a KiHa 183-900 built in 1979 so only 42 years old. They will certainly need new wheel-sets. Japan is "cape gauge" (1,067mm) whereas Thailand is true "metre gauge" (1,000mm). Falang think too much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petedk Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Crossy said: Looks like a KiHa 183-900 built in 1979 so only 42 years old. They will certainly need new wheel-sets. Japan is "cape gauge" (1,067mm) whereas Thailand is true "metre gauge" (1,000mm). My first thoughts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Gotta be better than the un-airconditioned horrors I see now. These at least appear to be from the 20th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bignbad Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Orinoco said: They could have smartened one up for the photo shoot. Thailand -4.0 They did, that was the best they could get them,,,,,,,,,:):):) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orinoco Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, law ling said: There're finally here! Next step: Get the refurbishment budget approved and paid. Then: After all possible skimming, provide years of "useful employment" for relevant cousins, brothers-in-law, friends of friends, etc. Finally: Bookmark this story for follow-up in five years. You been here to long. Bet you say Book bank as well !!!! LOL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I wonder...... Thailand has a gauge of 1000 mm. JR Hokkadoi has a gauge of 1067 mm. Don't think that will fit nicely. Or maybe the wheels can be repositioned on the axles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheapcanuck Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 junk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I wonder...... Thailand has a gauge of 1000 mm. JR Hokkadoi has a gauge of 1067 mm. Don't think that will fit nicely. Or maybe the wheels can be repositioned on the axles? 3 hours ago, Captain Monday said: JR Hokkaido is the big money loser of JR rail those cars look they have not been used for many years. Seen it before somewhere however. Yes, indeed. As soon as any country builds a high speed rail net the existing lines will generate a loss. Two rail systems in a country is a recipe for disaster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Becuse diesel-powered engines burn hotter than even gas-powered engines, it's NOx emissions is even higher. Thus, a higher carbon footprint, a polluter and higher level of greenhouse effect. At least a hybrid engine would cause less NOx emissions. Thought the government made a commitment to the UN to better deter climate change, ie., lower carbon footprint. But "free" seems to overrule science for this government. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJack54 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) I wonder if the Japanese timetable guidelines are included. From BBC. "A Japanese rail company has apologised after a train left a station 25 seconds early, the second such case in months. The operator said the "great inconvenience we placed upon our customers was truly inexcusable". If the details are anything to go by, customers are faced with slipping standards: a train last November left 20 seconds early while this time it was a full 25 seconds premature." Edited December 15, 2021 by DrJack54 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, hansnl said: I wonder...... Thailand has a gauge of 1000 mm. JR Hokkadoi has a gauge of 1067 mm. Don't think that will fit nicely. Or maybe the wheels can be repositioned on the axles? For all the wags saying the Thais won't have thought of that, from the article: "The trains will be shifted to the Makkasan maintenance centre for inspection before modified bogeys are added. The entire operation is expected to take about four months." Quote Yes, indeed. As soon as any country builds a high speed rail net the existing lines will generate a loss. Two rail systems in a country is a recipe for disaster. Eh? Every single country in the world - including Japan - has multiple rail systems as well as high speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fugitive Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 6 hours ago, bendejo said: And in the Buenos Aires subway system as well. But I don't know if they bother to refurbish, the cars there still have signs in Japanese. They probably just hose them down inside and out and that's it. There are certain lines there that have ancient cars where the passengers have to open the doors manually. I like BA's Metro. Do they still have the wooden trains that have been described as 'creaking along inside an antique wardrobe'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuman2547 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 I don't think this train wreck of a deal is going to work out so well. How many years do they think they will get out of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Amazing the Soft Power japan wields. China much more important economically but still a white Western millionaire is a Farang. An old Japanese pensioner on 40,000 baht a month gets high respect and privilege. I think it is because they are more respectful and integrate better. No complaints about masks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post edwinchester Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Up on blocks. Great look. Initial inspection showed that the 17 railcars are in good condition and technicians believe they can easily last for another 50 years. https://www.nationthailand.com/blogs/in-focus/40009927 Must have been some scousers in the area. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, webfact said: Used trains manufactured in Japan are popular Oh really!! 7 hours ago, meauwnam said: It wouldn't surprise me if these Japanese trains are used on the Bangkok - Nam Tok route Like this earlier steam locomotive?? Thailand, Kanchanaburi. This is one of the abandoned trains beyond what was Sai Yok clearing and PoW camp on the infamous Burma-Siam Death railway Edited December 15, 2021 by Burma Bill additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Up on blocks. Maybe they are specially adapted for block signaling??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Almer said: Somebody made a mint on these for sure Please tell me how to 'make a mint' on donated items? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpcoe Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Would be interesting to see the condition of the car interiors. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Oddly reminiscent of the "White Elephant". Someone thought that this was a good idea. Was it some brilliant mind at SRT - that black-hole of cash? And where is Chidchob? He should be out in front of this if it's such a wonderful idea? His absence is telling. From an article when this "deal" as first annoucned: Later on Thursday, the SRT announced that Deugro Projects (Thailand) Co. had been selected to ship the 17 donated trains to the kingdom, explaining that the amount included import and value-added taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkk Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Crossy said: Looks like a KiHa 183-900 built in 1979 so only 42 years old. They will certainly need new wheel-sets. Japan is "cape gauge" (1,067mm) whereas Thailand is true "metre gauge" (1,000mm). So the wheel-base will have to be 6.7cms smaller and thus less stable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mtls2005 Posted December 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, rbkk said: So the wheel-base will have to be 6.7cms smaller and thus less stable? Bless your heart, you think these will be operated at some point. Shuffle these off with the fire trucks and boats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 4 hours ago, spidermike007 said: It is OK to spend tens of billions on utterly useless submarines, but spending real money on us commoners seems to be beyond the scope, vision and willingness of the (PTA) pathetic Thai army. To be fair the submarines and aircraft carrier are also second hand! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 5 hours ago, bdenner said: Well I guess we can look on the bright side, these junk piles do not appear to need rail lines so can compete with the junk busses on the roads and that's all we need, more diesel smoke pollution. One of the major costs involved in "Refurbishing " these old Trains, is that all the existing running gear on them is no good for the Thailand Rail Network. Thailand rail has a One Meter Gauge, so all the stuff on these Trains needs replacing. Added too which are the Internal Refurb / recon Etc of every piece on these Trains , and basically you are just respraying an empty tin can that will not need too much attention. Japan Rail had a Garage sale and the Thais turned up looking for a bargain. Even as a freeby they are not going to be a cheap option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 Destined for the Bangkok - Nam Tok line. Delivery a little late. Approx 75 yrs late but the Japs had seen the film and assumed the bridge had been blown up! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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