6 hours ago, ebean001 said:

The high speed train to China from Chiang Mai to be completed 2017. Ooops, that did not happen but China now has a train to Laos. my question is this...China has almost 30,000 klms of track. If Thailand had connect with China, it would have been connected to nearly all people in China...including ex-pats. What would Thailand be like today?  

FKD

8 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Area 39, a very popular bar near Treetown, Soi Bukahow, Pattaya has started ATK testing to get into the premises. They are not accepting proof of vaccination apparently.

Editor of the Pattaya News confirmed that if you fail that ATK test, an ambulance will be called and you will be taken to hospital.

Can you expand on how they will detain you?

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Let us be honest about this. It is Prayuth and Anutin, and their extreme cowardice that has decimated any hope of survival, within the tourism industry. It is a dead industry. This is likely the final nail in the coffin. 

 

Expect very high sustained unemployment for years to come. 

Can you think of anything they have done that isn't reversible?

8 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

People aren't stupid.

We had the story of the Danish family yesterday, with the daughter being taken off to hospital for failing a test.

Area 39, a very popular bar near Treetown, Soi Bukahow, Pattaya has started ATK testing to get into the premises. They are not accepting proof of vaccination apparently.

Editor of the Pattaya News confirmed that if you fail that ATK test, an ambulance will be called and you will be taken to hospital.

Who in their right mind is going to travel 6,000 miles to put up with heads you win, tails your taken to hospital.

 

 

Well if you test positive its maybe because you farangs walk around brazenly WITHOUT MASKS…constantly in Big C , shops and soi baukhao.  Covid only looks for thais and ignores farangs so it seems.  I’d avoid soi baukhao like the plague unless i want to get covid.  

12 minutes ago, Jimjim1 said:

Correct

and across the world the scientific and medical evidence is that those who are hospitalised are the unvaccinated, sadly the irresponsible antivaxers will not accept this evidence and continue to believe the conspiracy theorists and the fake news merchants, so to those people, if you catch it please don’t overload medical staff in hospitals demanding medication and oxygen because you do not deserve it

Well said …..

Most people don't care about COVID so much.

 

The massive problem we have here which is almost unique to Thailand is that they force isolate and lock people away at expensive facilities.

 

That's what killed the tourist industry in Thailand - the forced isolation / treatment centers and the expensive fees.

If they did it any other way then the tourist industry would be flourishing so they have caused this 100% themselves

You get what you vote for and you deserve every minute of it.

15 minutes ago, ourmanflint said:

You loon. The variant has only been around about 45 days yet you’re claiming facts about how it behaves with vaccines after 90 days. 
god give me strength to deal with all the loonies

Please igore that FB Antivax wizard behind the internet curtain.  Antivax only prolongs this virus because enough hosts keep it alive. How many of you had measles or polio?? None. And why?

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

Most people don't care about COVID so much.

 

The massive problem we have here which is almost unique to Thailand is that they force isolate and lock people away at expensive facilities.

 

That's what killed the tourist industry in Thailand - the forced isolation / treatment centers and the expensive fees.

If they did it any other way then the tourist industry would be flourishing so they have caused this 100% themselves

You get what you vote for and you deserve every minute of it.

You're absolutely correct except your last line...... did they actually vote (democratically) for this shower of Muppets, so do they really deserve it?

Somehow, I think not.

8 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

They'll be flying in in drops and dropping like flies, if this variant is as deadly as Delta. Even if people recover those who take up ICU's block others and regardless of beds in streets as we saw in the last wave there is a finite number of trained staff and some of them may succumb, sick , die or be forced to quarantine.

 

Severe Chinese style lockdowns my  be the sole solution, we'll soon know 13 million in Xian is the Petri dish. I don't think this regime  has the will cojones or discipline to really herd these pussy cats, all we can do is get vaxxed, mask up and hide, yet I foresee a New Year superspread.

 

It’s already started

8 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Or the Thai figures are complete BS.

UK and France 100K - 150K cases per day Thailand 2500 cases 

Do me a favour.

 

Thailand has a 12 x higher population than Denmark and yet Denmark tested a lot more than Thailand.

Denmark more than 50 million PCR tests and Thailand less than 20 million.

 

No wonder they don't find so many positive cases.

 

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/full-list-total-tests-for-covid-19?country=THA~DNK

 

Edit. And the daily numbers just arrived in DK.

 

189512 PCR tests done yesterday.

 

23228 positive cases which is record high daily number, but also high amount of tests are done, so test and you shall find.

 

If Thailand were to test as many people per 1000 population, that would be approx 2 million tests.

 

Imagine the numbers in Thailand if they tested 2 million Thais in a day.

7 minutes ago, Bkktodd said:

Please igore that FB Antivax wizard behind the internet curtain.  Antivax only prolongs this virus because enough hosts keep it alive. How many of you had measles or polio?? None. And why?

You got that right! Part of me is hoping (cruelly) that these "FB Antivax wizards" get what they deserve. There have been a few of them have got Covid and publicly regretted their former stances (you'd need to search if you're interested to find them) but sadly most of them are too blinded to see the real truth.

What's really sad is that a few people one thought were intelligent are still anti-vax. Makes you reassess a lot of what you thought you knew about folk! 

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Thai business media reported that the tourist "high season" was in tatters in Thailand because of the Omicron variant.

Because of Thai junta

 

9 hours ago, webfact said:

Meanwhile it was also reported that insurance companies face payouts of 20 billion baht on Covid policies - the new variant is overstretching them and means that many are facing losses after miscalculating the cost of policies. 

Let them increase their prices and they will get even less tourists

TAT  ..... what happened to your millions of tourists from Russia & India ......   remember the quality one's you said were coming.

TAT,  you are so full of c_rap talk and bs.    Lol

56 minutes ago, Bobydog said:

It is in Tatters because of the ineptitude demonstrated by the Administration of Fools who have told the travelling world " we are great" one day "we have the Virus under control" the next day. "All come all welcome" . "No Quaranteen". Yes Quaranteen.

People out there all over the world read the utter <deleted> that you load your statements with and made the only decision a sane person could make, "Don't go to Thailand, it is not safe. 

Wake up you clowns and quit while you are ahead, the good and suffering people of Thailand do not deserve what you are consigning them to.

Thailand ripped tourists off for years with their double pricing,  fake smiles and all the bs.  Cheats scammers and liar's comes to mind.        just visit immigration and see how your treated for spending money here ....   lol

karma at it's best

Surprise surprise looks like omicron is alive and kicking in Pattaya.

Being unofficially reported elsewhere that 50 people tested positive with ATK tests who attended a party.

Guy knows 3 bar managers and a bar tender who have also tested positive.

Let's see what happens.

 

2 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Surprise surprise looks like omicron is alive and kicking in Pattaya.

Being unofficially reported elsewhere that 50 people tested positive with ATK tests who attended a party.

Guy knows 3 bar managers and a bar tender who have also tested positive.

Let's see what happens.

 

Maybe they will have to continue their party at a hospital and it's going to be one hell of an expensive party....

51 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

Can you expand on how they will detain you?

I was wondering that myself. What right do bar staff have, should you test positive, to hold you against your will until an ambulance arrives to take you to hospital?

Whole story reeks of a friend of a friend said.

Honestly, i think omicron may come and go in Thailand within a few months.

Like the first wave, there maybe very little major issues and lack of testing will not scare the population.

Just depends on how reactive the Thai government are. No different than any other government globally.

8 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

Surprise surprise looks like omicron is alive and kicking in Pattaya.

Being unofficially reported elsewhere that 50 people tested positive with ATK tests who attended a party.

Guy knows 3 bar managers and a bar tender who have also tested positive.

Let's see what happens.

 

well  ................   that'll teach em  '

Everybody probably heard what the authorities did to that poor Israeli bloke.  Who wants that kind of treatment.  Then this:

 

"Meanwhile it was also reported that insurance companies face payouts of 20 billion baht on Covid policies - the new variant is overstretching them and means that many are facing losses after miscalculating the cost of policies."

 

Man, that brought tears to my eyes.   Happy to see those greedy phucks take it right in the ear end.  Ripoff <deleted>.  And they thought they were going to cut a fat hog.  555 555 555

3 minutes ago, edwinchester said:

I was wondering that myself. What right do bar staff have, should you test positive, to hold you against your will until an ambulance arrives to take you to hospital?

Whole story reeks of a friend of a friend said.

It's reported on the PA forum.

Photo of a large folding billboard outside the bar with the testing requirements listed.

How long they are doing it for or how the mechanics work was not discussed.

Hopefully, another member of that forum can confirm.

 

FDA warns: Potential for False Positive Results with Antigen Tests for Rapid Detection of SARS-CoV-2

 

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/letters-health-care-providers/potential-false-positive-results-antigen-tests-rapid-detection-sars-cov-2-letter-clinical-laboratory

58 minutes ago, VBF said:

You're absolutely correct except your last line...... did they actually vote (democratically) for this shower of Muppets, so do they really deserve it?

Somehow, I think not.

They definitely had an election and everyone who wanted to placed their vote.

 

I believe there was some swapping of allegiances by the MPs after the election which lead us to here - so yes, they voted for those who then backed the current group in charge.

 

As the PM pointed out, he didn't need those extra hand picked senators in the end anyway.....

 

7 hours ago, Sheryl said:

The issue for the UK is the impact on health services. Although hospitalizations with Omicron are shorter in duration and less often lead to death, the numbers of hospitalizations are rising so rapidly that the system could soon reach or exceed capacity. At the same time, staffing levels are affected by large numbers of medical personnel themselves falling ill.

 

There is a genuine need to try to slow down the rate of spread in the UK at this point to ensure that the system can handle it and people in need of health services (for all illnesses) don't lack access.

 

Slow down the rate, not halt the spread - the second is impossible.

 

 

The UK health care system has had 2 years to prepare. They are at risk of being over ran if a bus crashes with 19 people injured. Just 2 more weeks to slow the spread. 

9 hours ago, ozfarang said:

But hospital admissions are not increasing dramatically.

Australian cases nearly doubled over night but hospital admissions only up slightly and ICU and ventilator case were down marginally.

If Thailand follows a trajectory similar to Australia then their health system will cope

It's certainly looking hopeful but you need to include hospital workers who aren't working due to Covid and isolating as that will have an effect on hospitals being able to cope. Reducing the isolation period seems to be an option and would help if it's safe.

 

Tourism is a bit more difficult as any length of quarantine is going to effect arrivals. Hopefully the measures being taken now will have an effect quickly.

3 hours ago, VBF said:

Yes that is something I had not taken into consideration however it doesn't explain why everyone who gets Omicron and  is asymptomatic is required to isolate, not just hospital staff who come into contact with patients but transport, shop and other workers.  It's the "one-size for all" approach that is (IMO) damaging.

because someone who is infected but asymptomatic can still infect others, hence more burden on the medical systems and even the risk (even if it is smaller these days) of more deaths. simple!

I don't know who is "panicking." 
I've never panicked about Covid in the last 23 months.  I'm not starting now.

But ya'll?  Feel free to panic.  What a s****y why to live.

2 minutes ago, gejohesch said:

because someone who is infected but asymptomatic can still infect others, hence more burden on the medical systems and even the risk (even if it is smaller these days) of more deaths. simple!

Granted - but in UK where people, including the others you mention, are vaccinated it must be time to start taking the minimal risk, because basically, if you're vaccinated testing positive doesn't matter that much. Its when you come into contact with UNvaccinated people that problems arise. And as I've said many times they deserve no consideration. 

9 hours ago, RubbaJohnny said:

They'll be flying in in drops and dropping like flies, if this variant is as deadly as Delta. Even if people recover those who take up ICU's block others and regardless of beds in streets as we saw in the last wave there is a finite number of trained staff and some of them may succumb, sick , die or be forced to quarantine.

 

Severe Chinese style lockdowns my  be the sole solution, we'll soon know 13 million in Xian is the Petri dish. I don't think this regime  has the will cojones or discipline to really herd these pussy cats, all we can do is get vaxxed, mask up and hide, yet I foresee a New Year superspread.

 

It is not the number of positive cases that matter but teh number of patietns with covid that need hospital treatment.  IN the UK the latest figures are:

 

cases: 

• 129,471Daily number of people tested positive reported on 28 December 2021
• Last 7 days
• 802,137
• THERE HAS BEENAN INCREASE OF186,430(30.3%)

   

  of those in hospital some 30% were admitted for other reasons and when tested in teh hospital found to have covid so they were not admitted for covid.

   

  Deaths within 28 days of positive test

  Latest data provided on 28 December 2021

  Daily   18

  • Last 7 days   588   THERE HAS BEEN A DECREASE OF-220(-27.2%)
     

    Furthermore the numbers tested in England are very high

    Daily:   1,582,378
    Last 7 days    10,665,352   THERE HAS BEENAN INCREASE OF1,334,762(14.3%)
     

10 hours ago, stigar said:

Well..they been warned allready.Close down this country rigth now.UK(just england)with 130.000 new cases..france 180.000 new cases.USA 580.000 new cases.And thailand only about 3000 new cases????

Come on..start testing and tell the real truth.

Lowest deaths for ages in UK. Milder variant plus vaccination appears to work.  If case numbers were an issue then we'd close down every time a cold does the rounds. Have to change our mindset on this one.