Thailand encounters challenges in supplying Corona vaccines

[snoop1130]

 

Dr. Chawetsan Namwat, Director of Division of Disease Situation Control in Emergency, revealed that the challenges of providing COVID-19 vaccines are to cope with the concerns caused by fake news and various kinds of belief and to manage the amount of the vaccines to match with the demand in each period, to which Thailand had negotiated with some countries as to transfer the vaccines between them when needed.

 

Up until now, Thailand has received almost 10 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines from 8 different countries, whilst, has been providing over 103 million doses to its citizens and expats with more than 45 million of its citizens are fully vaccinated, approx. 64% of all citizens, according to MOPH – Immunization Center.

 

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[Golden Triangle]

We ( me & the mrs ) have to wait until next month for a booster shot, we're hoping that the hospital that did the first 2 jabs is running a booster programme.

[TheScience]

8 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

challenges of providing COVID-19 vaccines are to cope with the concerns caused by fake news and various kinds of belief and to manage the amount of the vaccines to match with the demand

Sorry, I'm lost.

 

I'd think *fake news* (lol, blame the fake news 555) would lessen the demand.

 

Well, I'm certainly willing to forgo mRNA vaccine. Have thus far and will continue to do so.

[nattaya09]

The vax rate had been doing well up until mid November but has dropped precipitously since to almost nothing.  I was wondering if they had a vaccine shortage or had just hit the ceiling of those who wanted to get it. They have about 66% fully vaxed now. I figured they could leverage the current  Omicron scare into reviving it had it been the latter

 

 

 

 

[NicholasTH]

What about a poorly run government into this equation ..????????????

[Cherrytreeview]

33 minutes ago, TheScience said:

Sorry, I'm lost.

 

I'd think *fake news* (lol, blame the fake news 555) would lessen the demand.

 

Well, I'm certainly willing to forgo mRNA vaccine. Have thus far and will continue to do so.

Yes, you are lost.

A bit like these brothers who thought they knew better.

https://news.sky.com/story/igor-bogdanoff-80s-french-tv-star-dies-from-covid-days-after-twin-brother-grichka-12508738

Both unvaccinated.

You will not avoid omicron.

Most people who have been tripled jab think it's like a bad cold/mild flu.

For those who think they know better than global science, like yourself, then they could get very sick indeed.

I doubt you'll be spouting your ill informed nonsense to the doctor who's charged with trying to save your life.

You don't need to reply to me, i couldn't care less if you get jabbed or not.

I do care about you taking up a bed for a non covid patient who is denied one because of you

[TheScience]

2 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

I do care about you taking up a bed for a non covid patient who is denied one because of your stupidity.

Oh, that's new. Usually it's the canard ...taking up the bed for those vaxed.

 

Of course, the irony is that they are vaxed and in hospital yes? It's all downhill from here bro.

 

Everyone reporting it's just a bad flu. Science says omicron only lingering in upper respiratory. Fauci sending everyone to work after five days quarantine. We finally have sunshine.

[Cherrytreeview]

1 hour ago, TheScience said:

Oh, that's new. Usually it's the canard ...taking up the bed for those vaxed.

 

Of course, the irony is that they are vaxed and in hospital yes? It's all downhill from here bro.

 

Everyone reporting it's just a bad flu. Science says omicron only lingering in upper respiratory. Fauci sending everyone to work after five days quarantine. We finally have sunshine.

 

In the UK, 90% of people in ICU are unvaccinated.

The evidence to get vaccinated and boosted is overwhelming.

 

[Cherrytreeview]

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n3079

 

Here's more truth.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59696499.amp

 

Yet more.

[Cherrytreeview]

2 minutes ago, Cherrytreeview said:

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n3079

 

Here's more truth.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59696499.amp

 

Yet more.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/significant-increase-protection-vs-omicron-mrna-boosters-study-says-2021-12-22/

 

and more.

[blackcab]

Off topic posts have been removed.

[TheScience]

1 hour ago, Cherrytreeview said:

What you got?

Herd Immunity Possibility From Omicron

 

Omicron coronavirus variant will develop into a live vaccine that provides immunity without the need for booster shots.

 

advised the public not to be too worried about the possibility.

 

reduced incubation time for faster transmission while also tending to cause milder symptoms akin to the common cold or flu.

 

cause the common cold

 

most people develop an immunity after contracting these viruses as children.

 

LOL

 

He suggests that the variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, delivering stronger immunity stimulation than existing COVID vaccines. 

 

It's here, now and finally sanctioned by TV. The horror show is over.

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1245512-expert-predicts-rise-in-covid-19-cases-but-herd-immunity-possibility-from-omicron/

[Virt]

13 minutes ago, TheScience said:

He suggests that the variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, delivering stronger immunity stimulation than existing COVID vaccines.

 

 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1245512-expert-predicts-rise-in-covid-19-cases-but-herd-immunity-possibility-from-omicron/

If the omicron variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, how can it also deliver a stronger immunity stimulation?

Does attenuated not mean weakened?

It's also just something he suggest is it not, so no data backing his claims?

 

A bit confused since recent studies shows that getting a booster after being infected raise your anti bodies by a lot compared to just having the infection and no vaccines.

[TheScience]

14 minutes ago, Virt said:

If the omicron variant will operate as a live attenuated vaccine, how can it also deliver a stronger immunity stimulation?

Does attenuated not mean weakened?

It's also just something he suggest is it not, so no data backing his claims?

 

A bit confused since recent studies shows that getting a booster after being infected raise your anti bodies by a lot compared to just having the infection and no vaccines.

 

Attenuated describes the nature and type of vaccine but what presumably all vaccines are at least supposed to do is boost immunity.

 

AZ, Sputnik V are attenuated vaccines.

[TheScience]

18 minutes ago, Virt said:

recent studies shows that getting a booster after being infected raise your anti bodies by a lot compared to just having the infection and no vaccines.

I understand the opposite to be true.

 

Besides, it seems entirely counterintuitive.

 

You got a vaccine and then you got a booster. It didn't work. You got covid. Then?? What?? You get another vaccine - to protect you against what? Covid?? Numerous studies indicate that immunity post exposure is best, most durable - from my reading.

[Virt]

2 minutes ago, TheScience said:

I understand the opposite to be true.

 

Besides, it seems entirely counterintuitive.

 

You got a vaccine and then you got a booster. It didn't work. You got covid. Then?? What?? You get another vaccine - to protect you against what? Covid?? Numerous studies indicate that immunity post exposure is best, most durable - from my reading.

Not the studies i looked at so many we just seek info at different sites ???? 

 

Let's just agree that Omicron so far seems to be milder, and that sounds promising.

As of today we still have the highest spikes in DK during this pandemic, but the director of the serum institute still think we will be back to almost normal in a few months.

(Todays numbers are 231.000 PCR test and they showed 28.000 positives, so we still test like crazy, but our positive rate is over 10, so that indicate we have a lot of positive people running around in the public)

 

Time will tell and now i will go book a time for my Pzifer booster ???? 

[Bkk Brian]

33 minutes ago, Virt said:

Time will tell and now i will go book a time for my Pzifer booster ???? 

I'd like to avoid Omicron at all costs, just because it effects some people mildly does not mean thats the case for everyone. I've had my Pfizer booster a couple of weeks ago so should now be up to speed on antibody levels, if its going to touch me at least let it happen while they remain that way....lol

 

Interesting comments made by UK's Chief Medical officer in a briefing yesterday.

 

He said that while talking to unvaccinated Omicron patients in hospital he found three main questions they were asking.

 

1. Is this disease serious enough to be vaccinated against? "well yes clearly you are in hospital"

2. Do the vaccines work? "yes 88% protection is our current estimate, even more for ICU admission"

3. Side effects? "Go through all of those concerns properly but there is misinformation deliberately placed on the internet to scare people"

 

I paraphrased to shorten but 2 min video is on twitter

https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1478719682567827456

 

 

[JCP108]

2 hours ago, Cherrytreeview said:

 

In the UK, 90% of people in ICU are unvaccinated.

The evidence to get vaccinated and boosted is overwhelming.

 

Same in the U.S. Over 90% of those w Covid in the ICU are the unvaccinated. 

[NicholasTH]

We are never really told the truth..

 

 

[herfiehandbag]

11 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

We ( me & the mrs ) have to wait until next month for a booster shot, we're hoping that the hospital that did the first 2 jabs is running a booster programme.

Yes, here we go again?

[hotchilli]

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Dr. Chawetsan Namwat, Director of Division of Disease Situation Control in Emergency, revealed that the challenges of providing COVID-19 vaccines are to cope with the concerns caused by fake news and various kinds of belief and to manage the amount of the vaccines to match with the demand in each period, to which Thailand had negotiated with some countries as to transfer the vaccines between them when needed.

It's called MANAGEMENT .... something half [or more] of Thai officials & governors have no concept of.

[RocketDog]

All these arguments and counter-arguments are just so much jaw wagging.

Those who will/have gotten vaccinated will do so, those who haven't simply won't, ever.

 

Boring......

 

 

 

[mikebell]

41 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

It's called MANAGEMENT .... something half [or more] of Thai officials & governors have no concept of.

Having made his millions on the Chinese <deleted>, Anutin's lost interest in obtaining the proper stuff.

[arithai12]

36 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

It's called MANAGEMENT .... something half [or more] of Thai officials & governors have no concept of.

You could then say the same of many western government, starting e.g. with the US,  who hoarded tons of vaccines only to be faced with the fact that many of their citizens didn't actually want them (ergo the donations). You will find that the US and Thailand have completely comparable 1-dose and 2-dose vaccinaton rates (https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations), in spite of the US being richer and having started much earlier.

There is a hard core of people who are strongly against vaccines, in some cases based on the idea that they are healthy and immune enough, and in some cases due to conspiracy theories of various kinds. This is the root of the problem, it has little to do with the management by governments - although I will agree with you that this is an area where the Thai politicians do not excel.

[LittleBear57]

Went for our booster shots today at Kilo Sip no vaccines and no idea if or when they will get some. They still say come and get it on the internet, but there is nothing.

[Cake Monster]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Up until now, Thailand has received almost 10 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines from 8 different countries, whilst, has been providing over 103 million doses to its citizens and expats with more than 45 million of its citizens are fully vaccinated, approx. 64% of all citizens, according to MOPH – Immunization Center.

If 45 Million persons have received full Vaccination at 2 shots each, that accounts for 90 Million Doses., which is approx 64  % of the population.

Therefore, 36 % of the population have received only a total of 13 Million Doses between them

This means there are many people still out there that are only single dosed, or have received no Vaccine at all.

That is over 1/3rd of the population.

Get them immunized, and scale down the Booster shots 

 

[IAMHERE]

11 hours ago, Virt said:

Let's just agree that Omicron so far seems to be milder, and that sounds promising.

Can we also agree that after Omicron you have more anti-bodies ? So let's see the comparison of anti-bodies after the 3rd booster shot and those that caught Omicron before getting the 3rd booster shot. That's the metric that would indicate if Omicron is better than manmade booster.

[MrJ2U]

16 hours ago, TheScience said:

Well, I'm certainly willing to forgo mRNA vaccine. Have thus far and will continue to do so.

You won't have a choice. 

 

Theres not enough vaccines once again.

 

You most likely wouldn't be lucky enough in any case to get an mRNA vaccine unless you've previously paid for one.

 

 

[GeorgeCross]

shouldn't thailand be producing 10M doses of AZ every month by now?

 

whatever happened to that? did they stop production?

 

 

[poohy]

5 hours ago, LittleBear57 said:

Went for our booster shots today at Kilo Sip no vaccines and no idea if or when they will get some. They still say come and get it on the internet, but there is nothing.

Same in prachuap Enrol and wait oh and look at facebook page

 

Are we listed on there ,dont know

When is vaccine coming dont know