Many Thai children being extorted and threatened online after sending indecent images for money/games items

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Picture: INN

 

Royal Thai Police spokesman Pol Col Siriwat Deephor told INN about a worrying trend of criminals approaching children during online gaming.

 

The criminals say that in exchange for indecent images of them they will hand out money or coupons for gaming 'items'.

 

Many children believe this.

 

Instead they are threatened that if they don't send more images the ones they already sent will be passed onto teachers or people they know.

 

The children are then caught up in a cycle of threats, extortion and embezzlement.

 

He told parents to keep a close watch on their children and warn them not to get sucked into this con.

 

He itemised severe penalties of many years in jail and large fines for criminals who do this. 

 

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[Geoffggi]

When caught these people should be prosecuted to 200% of what the normal penalties are, there is absolutely no excuse for exploitation of minors these people are definitely the lowest of the low IMO

[jingjai9]

My warning to parents to be careful. If you try to find the perpetrators yourself online, you may end up with indecent images on your computer for which you could face criminal investigation and penalties.  Report anything suspicious to the police. Do not play detective.

 

 

[Confuscious]

Everything is not "Black and White" in this matter.
Many "children" are today involved in making indecent video's and images and publishing them in "Tik Tok", Instagram, Line, and other meeting sites.
A lot of them are underaged children looking for wealth.
I know personally a few girls who went to school with my daughter in P4 and used to go every weekend to Pattaya to work in bars or as freelancers.
Monday, they were showing how much many they had "earned" with simply spreading their legs.
They were all under aged, but had false ID-Cards which showed them as being over 18 years.
These children are barely mature enough to weight the extents of their actions and with the internet, their pictures and videos are spread all over the globe.
It's not always the fault of the ones who (not knowing) are attracted into this scam.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

I'm trying to recall if I've ever read / heard of a case where the Thai police actually arrested and prosecuted anyone for this type of offense...

 

And off the top of my head, I can't recall any.

 

That's probably more a comment on the nature of Thai policing, and less a comment on the extent to which this kind of criminal activity is occurring.

 

[digger70]

Many children are same as the Adults ,Greed and will do Anything for the promise of Money.  Can't fix stupid .

[Ohyesuare]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I'm trying to recall if I've ever read / heard of a case where the Thai police actually arrested and prosecuted anyone for this type of offense...

 

And off the top of my head, I can't recall any.

 

That's probably more a comment on the nature of Thai policing, and less a comment on the extent to which this kind of criminal activity is occurring.

 

Plenty have been arrested for having CP on their devices. Some of it could have been obtained this way.

[Bangkok Barry]

2 hours ago, Confuscious said:

I know personally a few girls who went to school with my daughter in P4 and used to go every weekend to Pattaya to work in bars or as freelancers.
Monday, they were showing how much many they had "earned" with simply spreading their legs.

This goes a long way to explaining why Thailand has the worldwide reputation it has as a hotbed of prostitution. So many people willing to sell sex. Over the years here I've read similar stories over and over again. The most important thing to Thais are money and face, with the first giving the opportunity to enhance the second by buying 'designer' goods and the latest phone. Those priorities often over-ride any sense of morals. It might happen elsewhere - I'm sure it does - but not to the extent it happens in Thailand.

[Artisi]

21 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

This goes a long way to explaining why Thailand has the worldwide reputation it has as a hotbed of prostitution. So many people willing to sell sex. Over the years here I've read similar stories over and over again. The most important thing to Thais are money and face, with the first giving the opportunity to enhance the second by buying 'designer' goods and the latest phone. Those priorities often over-ride any sense of morals. It might happen elsewhere - I'm sure it does - but not to the extent it happens in Thailand.

In many cases, encouraged by their parents - money is money wherever / however it is sourced.

[Bruno123]

3 hours ago, Confuscious said:

Everything is not "Black and White" in this matter.
Many "children" are today involved in making indecent video's and images and publishing them in "Tik Tok", Instagram, Line, and other meeting sites.
A lot of them are underaged children looking for wealth.
I know personally a few girls who went to school with my daughter in P4 and used to go every weekend to Pattaya to work in bars or as freelancers.
Monday, they were showing how much many they had "earned" with simply spreading their legs.
They were all under aged, but had false ID-Cards which showed them as being over 18 years.
These children are barely mature enough to weight the extents of their actions and with the internet, their pictures and videos are spread all over the globe.
It's not always the fault of the ones who (not knowing) are attracted into this scam.

 

I sincerely hope that one of us is mistaken about P4. Unless you mean that you only know them because they went to school with your daughter when she was nine years old.

I really hope that you aren't talking about nine year old girls. 

(P)rathom 4 is aged nine. (M)atayom 4 is 15.

 

 

 

 

[Confuscious]

40 minutes ago, Bruno123 said:

 

I sincerely hope that one of us is mistaken about P4. Unless you mean that you only know them because they went to school with your daughter when she was nine years old.

I really hope that you aren't talking about nine year old girls. 

(P)rathom 4 is aged nine. (M)atayom 4 is 15.

 

 

 

 

Excuse, my error.
It should read Madthayom 4 (High School 4).
Thanks for pointing the error

[LukKrueng]

4 hours ago, Confuscious said:

I know personally a few girls who went to school with my daughter in P4 and used to go every weekend to Pattaya to work in bars or as freelancers.

P4 kids are about 10 years old. The most mature looking girls this age I ever taught or saw anywhere wouldn't pass as 14, let alone 18 years of age, and fake id or not, no bar would ever hire them, not even to sell flowers

[herfiehandbag]

5 hours ago, Confuscious said:

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by herfiehandbag

[Elkski]

All this materialistic craze is fueled by the media, advertising, tv stars, online influencers, etc. An example is the desire of owning an iPhone.   When I bought my wife an Samsung S10 6 months ago the comment from her best friend was all Thai women want an iphone.   To bad Thai people are being sold this load of bull.  

[asiasurfer]

Don't let your kid look at the phone all day long, pay some attention to your child, spend some quality time with them, etc... I guess it's called raising a child. 

[Scott]

5 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I'm trying to recall if I've ever read / heard of a case where the Thai police actually arrested and prosecuted anyone for this type of offense...

 

And off the top of my head, I can't recall any.

 

That's probably more a comment on the nature of Thai policing, and less a comment on the extent to which this kind of criminal activity is occurring.

 

Christopher Paul Neil, the swirly face offender, was caught after the police were able unswirl his face.  

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

28 minutes ago, Scott said:

Christopher Paul Neil, the swirly face offender, was caught after the police were able unswirl his face.  

Ya... my comment above wasn't in relation to child molesters or those possessing child porn in general...

 

But rather, the specific issue raised by the Thai police in the OP here -- where Thai children allegedly are being extorted by adults for more once they have shared their own explicit images online.

 

I don't doubt that kind of conduct is and has been occurring. But it was that specific scenario about which I couldn't recall any Thai arrests / prosecutions off the top of my head.

 

If the issue was of sufficient magnitude to warrant a public warning from Thai police, you'd think there might be a public record of past arrests and prosecutions for such cases.

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Confuscious]

1 hour ago, Elkski said:

All this materialistic craze is fueled by the media, advertising, tv stars, online influencers, etc. An example is the desire of owning an iPhone.   When I bought my wife an Samsung S10 6 months ago the comment from her best friend was all Thai women want an iphone.   To bad Thai people are being sold this load of bull.  

Life as we know it has changed drastically.

People giving up their daily, frustrating job and selling stuff on Facebook and other social media.

People creating an account on social media and counting the number of viewers and subscribers of their channel supporting them (supercarblondie).

The whole world has drastically changed with the social media and is constantly changing.

Something most of the older people can not follow.

The humans have become the slaves of the social media.

[SiSePuede419]

Hey, Russian hackers have to eat, too.  Their country is a failed state run by criminals.

[SiSePuede419]

2 hours ago, asiasurfer said:

Don't let your kid look at the phone all day long, pay some attention to your child, spend some quality time with them, etc... I guess it's called raising a child. 

Exactly.  You need to teach your child from age 2-12 how to deal with the internet.  Because age 13+ you have exactly zero control.

 

They need to learn how to be a good online citizen. 

 

And how to avoid predators. 

 

Two essential skills for the 21st century. ✅

[chickenslegs]

7 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

I'm trying to recall if I've ever read / heard of a case where the Thai police actually arrested and prosecuted anyone for this type of offense...

 

And off the top of my head, I can't recall any.

 

That's probably more a comment on the nature of Thai policing, and less a comment on the extent to which this kind of criminal activity is occurring.

 

To be fair, I think this is partly due to the nature of blackmail. The blackmailer relies upon the victim's reluctance to report the crime to the police (for obvious reasons) so most cases don't even get reported.

 

Also, the police/courts/media, in an effort to protect the victim, release the very minimum of information about cases that are prosecuted.

 

Blackmail is a most despicable crime and the punishment should be severe - extremely severe when young people are the victims.

[OneMoreFarang]

Children - 17?, 15?, 11?, 7? what children?

When are children children?

 

According to Wikipedia: "Biologically, a child (plural children) is a human being between the stages of birth and puberty, or between the developmental period of infancy and puberty. The legal definition of child generally refers to a minor, otherwise known as a person younger than the age of majority."

And this: "most jurisdictions set the age of consent in the range 14 to 18".

 

Obviously nobody should try to persuade children to do anything they don't want. But IMHO there is a huge difference if someone does this with pre puberty children who don't know what this is all about or with late teenagers who have anyhow sex with other teenagers and maybe others. 

 

[Dont confuse me]

6 hours ago, Artisi said:

In many cases, encouraged by their parents - money is money wherever / however it is sourced.

There were a couple of older women in my ex's village who sent their daughters to work in bars! The only time face was lost was when one girl constantly sent more money home than the other. 

Her mum taunted the other mother saying things like,"your daughters ugly, no one want to pay to <deleted> her, my daughter is beautiful many men pay for her"

It was of absolutely no consequence that their daughters were prostitutes, what did matter was the amount of money being sent home.

[CrunchWrapSupreme]

Hah, I remember the "swirly face" guy. What a tool. There was another in California selling pics of his own daughter. They started as "child modeling", then he customers cajoled him into taking it further, so he obliged. He was then nabbed by shooting photos in his backyard, and catching the name of his disposal company on his garbage cans.

 

I know many are annoyed by the PornHub ban, but at one of my first schools, I found students as low as P4 watching it in class. I was shocked and reported to this admins. I was even more shocked by their response, they were more upset with me about bringing it up. Heh. That taught me an important lesson about Thai education.

 

I later saw pics of M2 girls at nightclubs taking selfies with uni-aged farangs. Nobody gets carded at the clubs, at least not the customers. They get started early. Then I've seen M5 and M6 girls hopping into some nice cars after school, with older men I doubt are their Issan farmer fathers. Then I've seen others as I walk past looking at their phones in class, with banking apps open, looking at transfers.

 

Schools need to be more involved. Parents need to be more involved, not to mention not contributing to it themselves. And most of all, as a sociology prof said to us on our first day of class, "I'll tell you right now. Fix poverty, then you fix most of these problems".

[Confuscious]

43 minutes ago, Sharron Merrilees said:

For god sake I have been coming to Thailand for year's now, and I know it goes on, if the police or government wont do nothing can't you westerner's get together and put a stop to them going up on the theses' sites extra I know a lot are getting educated these day's what about sex education in schools some of yours have kids too.  I love the country and for all the other crab that goes on this is the most heart breaking. There young lives ruined for the sake of a few hundred BHT. STP. 

Well, it's maybe better for these kids to be a model and make good money than to go every day in a pit to dig Cobalt for Tesla batteries.

[Scott]

Inappropriate photos of underage children reported and removed. 

 

[Artisi]

27 minutes ago, Confuscious said:

Well, it's maybe better for these kids to be a model and make good money than to go every day in a pit to dig Cobalt for Tesla batteries.

But digging cobalt for Tesla batteries is really really important - for some people ????

[Artisi]

7 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

Hey, Russian hackers have to eat, too.  Their country is a failed state run by criminals.

Is that why Thailand feels like a second home to them?