Hummin Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Just now, Isaanlife said: You have any statistics or just making that up as you go? I don't even drink and I never have. Do you have a social network of expats where you live? Or is it just you and your wifes family you socialize with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Isaanlife said: Buffalo riding. Now that is something else you can do! We are riding motorbikes now, no more buffalo riding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roo860 Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, BritManToo said: And you were in your 60s when you had all these beautiful and sexy girlfriends? The women are probably more desperate in this region of Thailand, just sayin. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisH Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, Isaanlife said: You have any statistics or just making that up as you go? I don't even drink and I never have. I'd wager there are mor alcoholic expats in Pattaya than Issan. What else is there to do there? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer6969 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, Isaanlife said: 100,000 each isn't anything, Won't even pay for a 4 year college in most places. What does having all the modern toys have to do with anything? Explain why your wife can't set a limit? With over 100 relatives in the same area, my wife has no problems setting limits or saying no. Was nice speaking with you... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 Older Thai women make good wives, I don't know that a mix of a 60 yo farang and a teenager is going to be invariably successful. When they have some life experience, yes. I've met quite a few Isaan women, they seem to be hard-working. One I met in Chiang Rai was the most organized in terms of paperwork I've ever seen. If I was to give my GF control of my finances, she would immediately spend them on buying land. I think she has a few Chinese genes. We'd be asset rich and cash poor, at my stage of life I prefer to be the other way around. My GF is well taken care of after I die. I don't see any need to do more than that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Boomer6969 said: In the meantime I want want them to have all the toys modern, connected life can give them. Decent smartphone 5,000bht S/H scooter 25Kbht. Mission accomplished! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Artisi Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, BritManToo said: And you were in your 60s when you had all these beautiful and sexy girlfriends? Nope, in my 80's and still still have them ???? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Excel Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I say all women are opportunists. How badly you get treated by them, usually depends on the opportunity you give them to take from you. How sad. You must have some terrible relationships to think that way. Perhaps it was you that treated them badly perhaps as it takes two to tango. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HashBrownHarry Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, bkk6060 said: Everything you say in your post is great, the financial part I am not fan. Are you the provider? A man should have control over the financial desicions and finances any where, just my opinion. I agree regarding looking after finances. Majority will have a poor education and come from poor back grounds with little knowledge of how to manage budget / pay bills / stash money away for rainy day. I'm a big boy now and can look after my own finances thank you very much. Most marital issues are always about money. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 53 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I say all women are opportunists. How badly you get treated by them, usually depends on the opportunity you give them to take from you. I think your badly damaged as you stated yourself. Its all about the selection process. First one lots of problems lost money cheated a lot (had her in the Netherlands). After that second one.. house and car on her name. Got both, distributed what we both put in the house and car fairly not a problem about money ever. Shielded me perfectly. After that never a problem with girls and money. Its not about opportunity but about finding the right woman and treating her right. Now i don't say that you don't have to put in some precautions but to assume that every woman is bad is a result of your past and your selection proces that relies heavily on sexiness and willingness to do whatever you want. You seem to care a lot more about the outside then the inside then you are potentially having more problems. Current GF makes far more then me living in a 100k a month house paid by her company. So its about selection and accepting that you can't have it all. If pretty sexy and doing whatever you want is what you need then go for it but don't expect that the rest of the boxes like honesty and communication are there too. Fact is that there are few woman that tick all boxes (same as I and you for that matter are far from perfect). Find someone you can live with and are happy with that is it nothing more nothing less. Your experiences are based on your criteria. Mine are based on having a totally different set of criteria. so lets put it differently all woman you date are opportunists and you treat them like that. That is not the same with the ones i hang around with. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Gottfrid said: Really? Tell me more. Why are you out of the opinion that a man is more suitable to have control of the finances? If it´s just that you have not grown out of the way of thinking in the middle ages, just don´t bother. I'm of the opinion that the person who has accumulated the money retains control of it. Given the last time I owed anybody anything was 1974, I think I can claim I have more competence than many people of either gender. Given the "modern" family law systems in Western countries, and their forcible division of assets on a one size fits all basis, in that respect the Middle Ages sound quite appealing. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, Hummin said: Try again, why is it so many alchoholics among the expats in Isan? I don't know? do you think it is because of their Issan wives? Is there even any statistics that there are more alcoholism among Issan expats? And even if it was , is it possible that it might be do to other reasons , and that if it was not because of their Isaan wives there would be even more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, robblok said: You seem to care a lot more about the outside then the inside then you are potentially having more problems. Current GF makes far more then me living in a 100k a month house paid by her company. So its about selection and accepting that you can't have it all. I'd rather be alone, than live with an ugly woman. And I'm not so poor I need to live off one. I also remember you posting about how wonderful your last relationship was. Which didn't end all that well either. But don't worry, a high earning ugly one is sure to be different. Don't get me wrong, I've taken home a few monsters as well. But when I woke up sober in the morning I wished I hadn't. Edited January 13, 2022 by BritManToo 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I'd rather be alone, than live with an ugly woman. And I'm not so poor I need to live off one. I also remember you posting about how wonderful your last relationship was. Which didn't end all that well either. But don't worry, a high earning ugly one is sure to be different. What is an ugly woman? I have met ugly beautiful looking women and I have met beautiful ugly looking women. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: What is an ugly woman? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Indeed, I commend and admire the tremendous resiliency of Thai women, particularly Issan women. They've developed it well as they've had to contend with: 1) Often ineffectual Thai men. 2) Difficult children of any gender. 3) The ridiculousness of their government. 4) Extreme poverty, having to make do with very little. 5) The main contributing factor to most of Thai culture, their natural environment. The harshness of extreme heat, then extreme rains, droughts, floods, and the challenges these bring. Plans are always being canceled and changed. Things are usually up in the air. It's why I believe they've handled Covid better than other countries. They're used to this sort of thing. Oh, we can't do it this way? We'll do it this other way. It'll get done eventually. Might not be perfect, but oh well. Westerners tend to get extremely annoyed by this sort of thing, yet they just go with it. Heh. Unfortunately, this leads to a bit too much permissiveness when it comes to members of the family, whom they want to continue helping no matter the laziness and bad attitudes. So when it comes down to the money from my modest teacher's salary, I have to put my foot down and say no, that abled body young person isn't getting anything from us, not when I know there's jobs available in town. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcelV Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 I am not sure what's so special about Isaan women. Aren't they just like other Thai women everywhere, no matter the region. My missus is from the Islamic deep south (Yala Province) but makes for a great partner too, and I have met other lovely women/girls from all regions in Thailand. Never noticed much of a difference based on their place of origin. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post phutoie2 Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, Isaanlife said: You have any statistics or just making that up as you go? I don't even drink and I never have. Well that explains why you are posting such drivel Isan electric bill, my a**e 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, sirineou said: I don't know? do you think it is because of their Issan wives? Is there even any statistics that there are more alcoholism among Issan expats? And even if it was , is it possible that it might be do to other reasons , and that if it was not because of their Isaan wives there would be even more? I believe they struggled long time before they moved to Isan, and I know some wanted to get out of Pattaya and live healthy on the country side with their love of the life. I also believe the boredom and the lack of social life comparing to Pattaya weared them down. Life in Isan takes a different mentallity and different approach than living in a city or tourist place. No, no statistic, just based on my own experience and what I have seen. Alcholism combined with bad overall health and also some few with obvious mental issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrunchWrapSupreme Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, BritManToo said: But when I woke up sober in the morning I wished I hadn't. Sex is like cold pizza when you're hungry in the morning. Even when it's BAD, it's GOOD. ???????? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CrunchWrapSupreme said: 5) The main contributing factor to most of Thai culture, their natural environment. The harshness of extreme heat, then extreme rains, droughts, floods, and the challenges these bring. Off topic, I've never viewed the Thai climate as harsh. I's not as if the country is covered in snow and ice for 4 months of the year. Edited January 13, 2022 by BritManToo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BritManToo said: I think she look better than many of the other posted in that thread. But thats me, and I also had good experiences with women at her size to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nojohndoe Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hummin said: Try again, why is it so many alchoholics among the expats in Isan? No tall buildings to jump off ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hummin said: I believe they struggled long time before they moved to Isan, and I know some wanted to get out of Pattaya and live healthy on the country side with their love of the life. I also believe the boredom and the lack of social life comparing to Pattaya weared them down. Life in Isan takes a different mentallity and different approach than living in a city or tourist place. No, no statistic, just based on my own experience and what I have seen. Alcholism combined with bad overall health and also some few with obvious mental issues. I am not saying that there aren't , I don't know any, but then again I don't know many expats, we mostly keep to ourselves. But If indeed there are. the reasons you mentioned are probably it. and mostly boredom. You know what they say, "an idle mind is the devils workshop" . I Think issan wives have had a more difficult life than in the richest areas of Thailand and are maybe a little more appreciative ,But not only Issan wives, In general I find Issan people to be more friendly than most Thais. But as I said, my experience is limited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CrunchWrapSupreme Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 Well, that didn't take long. You can set your watch to it: ☑️ But mine's hi-so and makes more than me, while the rest are stuck with the riff raff. ☑️ I don't have one baht of debt. ☑️ I haven't had a drop of alcohol, never set foot in a bar. I can proudly attest my bingo card is empty. ???? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 45 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: I agree regarding looking after finances. Majority will have a poor education and come from poor back grounds with little knowledge of how to manage budget / pay bills / stash money away for rainy day. I'm a big boy now and can look after my own finances thank you very much. Most marital issues are always about money. Exactly. Maybe part of my DNA but I also like to have intelligent conversations about money, finances, investing etc. A guy that has no knowledge and just responds with " I know nothing she takes care of everything " just seems a little out of touch and uneducated for 2022. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sirineou said: I am not saying that there aren't , I don't know any, but then again I don't know many expats, we mostly keep to ourselves. But If indeed there are. the reasons you mentioned are probably it. and mostly boredom. You know what they say, "an idle mind is the devils workshop" . I Think issan wives have had a more difficult life than in the richest areas of Thailand and are maybe a little more appreciative ,But not only Issan wives, In general I find Issan people to be more friendly than most Thais. But as I said, my experience is limited. There is many genuin people in Thailand, and also in the south as one mentioned in the more muslim areas where I did spend some time climbing a few years 20 years back. Not only the women but also to men in those areas where great, and I made some few good friends among them to, and to be true, I have only managed to frequently riding motorbike with a few thais from Isan, but will not call them friends since we do not have much in common except motorbikes. Edited January 13, 2022 by Hummin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted January 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 13, 2022 This is a very rich topic. I think a large part of the equation is the erosion of femininity in the west. It has gotten so bad, that masculinity is now considered toxic. This is an existential threat to civilization, no doubt. It is me-too, and uber-feminism that has been the real nuclear bomb to relationships and a woman's ability to express herself, have sex freely, date normally, manifest the incredible dignity within femininity, and relate to men, in a healthy manner. It seems to contribute to an extremely unfulfilled female gender, and has resulted in making life very difficult for most men in the West. With Covid, things are even worse than before. A real life Zombieland. Thankfully, little of that toxic nonsense has reached the shores of Thailand. Women here seem to intuitively know how powerful their innate femininity is, and they use it to the fullest. I am very thankful for that. I think many have simply rejected alot of mind numbingly wrong headed Western notions, that women are saddled with. Nearly every friend I have in the US is single. Why? Because for a man in the US, who is past the age of 50, unless he is willing to get with a woman at least his age, his prospects are dim for finding love, or companionship. Some guys like me, simply prefer younger women. Not kids, but women who are 5, 10, 15, even 20 or 25 years younger than us. For a dozen very valid reasons. I could break them down, but why bother? The PC crew will jump on this and say it is not right. You should not be able to have this kind of life, without jumping over ridiculous hurdles! Means nothing to me. I do not do PC. Why be with a woman our age, if we do not need to? Nothing wrong with it, if it works for you. But It is virtually impossible for a 60 year old man in the US, to hook up with a 36 year old woman, unless she is very fat or very ugly, or he is a centi millionaire, or is famous. Period. It just does not happen in this day and age. Here it is possible. Granted he will likely get with a woman of lesser means, who needs a guy who can provide some financial stability. So what? Who cares? Most women want financial stability anywhere in the world, whether they admit it or not. The difference is here the women are more honest about their financial needs and desires. I know a lot of men who have engaged in relationships with lovely, kind, supportive, humorous, and sexy women here, who are no longer lonely. We have very good lives. Fulfilling lives. Lives we could never dream of having back in the US, Oz, NZ, UK, Canada, or Scandinavia. Even though my wife is very smart, I do not get much intellectual stimulation from the relationship. But, I get so much else. And in all of the relationships I was ever in with really smart women, who I got intellectual stimulation from, there was also so much grief to contend with. Such combative women. So much competition. Yikes. Thrilled to death to have left all of that behind. When I was only in the relationship for a year or so, I had dinner with a very sharp American friend. I asked him about that. He laughed. He said, when you feel the need for intellectual stimulation, call me. We can hook up for the meal, and break down the origins of the cosmos. Do not fret. That same brain that gives you that stimulation, also tends to give you so much grief, it is not worth it, on any level. Get over it. Enjoy all of the other qualities, that make your day so delightful and fulfilling. Great advice, that I have followed to this day. I learned long ago that an intellectual woman, who can match me intellectually, also tends to be a combative woman, and the chance of harmony is low. I for one, love a harmonious house, where my woman is joyful and light hearted, with a great sense of humor, and an amazing attitude toward life, and us. Just my point of view. Whatever works for you, stick with it. One of the most wonderful things about Thailand, is that the judgment level of couples with signifiant differences in age, is not as harsh, as in the west. My wife is quite a bit younger than me too. It works really well for us. When I dated women close to my age back in the US, it rarely ever worked out. Most were very rigid, closed minded, and set in their ways. Plus, many liked to go to bed very early, and behaved as if they were 20 years older than they were. That was not fun. I find younger women to be far more vital, more vigorous, and if you are fortunate to find one, far more open minded and adventurous. I find when we are out in public many men stare at her, as she is still very attractive and fit, and look at me with envy. Women here seem to be fairly neutral. In the US we get some attention. She gets alot of looks, and the guys look at me like they presume I am a centi-millionaire. The gals look at me like I a felon, and have committed a major crime, by refusing to jump over the hurdles prescribed by them, and taking a shortcut to heaven. That is so much fun. It is a wonderful feeling to watch the Western women squirm and to witness their confusion and disapproval. Overall, it has been an amazing relationship, and it has worked very well to this day. Every day with her is a very good day. She is the same lovely woman from one day to the next. She has a smile on her face when she wakes up in the morning. Never experienced that in the states. Some Thais manifest that unbearable lightness of being, that is so delightful to be around. I cannot really get enough of that spirit, and feel so blessed to be around that, and to have found such a well adjusted and delightful creature. In terms of the US, nearly everyone I know in the states tells me that their wives do not try as hard, once they are married. That the motivation to be all they can be just sort of disappears. I can see if for myself. They often do not seem the same as they were before. And this especially applies once the kids were born, though that might happen here, to some extent too. Fortunately, I do not know about that part of the equation. Here, I do not see that happening. For some reason, the cultural differences allow the women here to be a greater version of themselves. Does that make sense? I realize if you are a Western woman, it is not easy reading this stuff. And certainly this does not apply to everyone, either here or there. Some in the west are just exceptional, and capable to rising against the tide. But, it does apply to most, from my point of view. 11 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchWrapSupreme Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Off topic, I've never viewed the Thai climate as harsh. I's not as if the country is covered in snow and ice for 4 months of the year. Er. Several provinces get routinely covered in water. It's on topic. They soldier on, particularly the women. In the West, they take to Twitter to whine about the lack of avocado in their burritos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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