Chang beer price increase

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

The ever increasing fuel prices are going to  have a knock on effect on what we pay  for many things.

You can blame Putin for that...

 

And anyway, is 57 baht really that expensive?

Well, for the price of one beer in a Thai supermarket I can can get four or five in a Spanish supermarket. Tastes better too.

[Lacessit]

OP, go and buy a bag of baking soda at your local supermarket. 20 baht, it will last for months. Dissolve one teaspoon in a glass of water, and skoll it down.

You will get the same burping effect as a glass of beer, and your kidneys and liver will rejoice.

If anyone asks, you can always say it is a Stroh's.

[GreasyFingers]

Pepsico were more sneaky. They reduced the size of their LAY chips by 2 grams a packet.

[spidermike007]

Thai beer is only rivaled by Serbian beer, and the mass produced American beers, in terms of the very low quality. Poor grade of hops, barely, and the production process seems to be entirely lacking in pride. Typical of the big monopolies. Even a large production beer, like Beer Laos blows away any Thai beer, hands down. Thailand desperately needs a vital craft beer movement, and the youth are ready to mount it. If only the dinosaurs would stop protecting their "bankers" and move out of the way. In other words, allow some progress, you mindless simpletons! 
 
Boon Rawd Brewery, which makes Singha, and ThaiBev, which brews Chang, the country’s best-selling beer, are owned and run by two of the wealthiest families in Thailand. Through longevity and political influence, these two breweries have dominated Thai beer for nearly a century, forcing out or crushing any competition, foreign or domestic. And we all know how they easily accomplish this. 
 
Thaopipob Linjittkorn, or Thao as he is more popularly known, a lawyer and homebrewer, was very publicly arrested in 2017 for making beer. He used that publicity to win an election to Parliament in 2019, along with 80 other members of the Future Forward Party. This progressive, pro-democracy party included in its platform a detailed plan to deregulate the beer industry, as well as a proposal for the legalization of marijuana, citing both as ways of putting money into the pockets of small businesses and local farmers. The opposition that Future Forward was up against is a military-backed, hardline government that supports the duopoly with strict regulations that allow it to control over 99% of Thailand’s estimated 180 billion baht ($5.8 billion) beer industry. The duopoly was originally made untouchable with the first Thai Liquor Control Act in 1950, a law which has been amended several times since to push legality even further out of reach of any small brewer. Prayuth's administration has done much to reinforce the isolationist and nationalistic policies that Phibul established in the 1940s and ’50s, and has called again and again for citizens to display a certain level of “Thainess,” which the PM defines in part as unquestioning loyalty to the government. Do not be disobedient! 
 
For small breweries, it requires production of at least 100,000 liters (852 barrels) but no greater than 1,000,000 liters (8,520 BBLs), and stipulates that all beer must be sold on the premises. At the same time, the minimum amount for an industrial license was increased from one million liters to 10 million liters (85,200 BBLs) per year, as well as requiring that the brewer demonstrate available capital of at least 10 million baht ($320,000).
Just to make sure small brewers were thoroughly intimidated, the rewrite also increased inflated penalties. Fines were increased from their original, almost quaint 200 baht ($6) for possession of bootleg alcohol to 10,000 ($300). For actually brewing without a license, fines were increased from 5,000 baht ($150) to a range of 50,000–100,000 baht ($1,600–$3,200), plus jail time. Reporting in 2017, The Bangkok Post estimated that in order to meet the new regulations, a brewer would need to have a billion baht—around $30 million—in start-up capital. 

 

Thailand was signatory to an ASEAN charter some time ago, that allowed for the importation of alcoholic beverages across all ASEAN borders, tax free. We should be seeing Bintang, Beer Lao, Bia Saigon, Bia Huda, Bia Ha Noi, Dagon, Saigon Special, 333, and many other good beers on ALL supermarket shelves now. What happened? Likely the same goons who prevent the craft beer industry from exploding here, got to the same corrupt goons, and stopped it in it's tracks. A broken charter. No problem. No wonder we only have access to super low quality local beers, and a small number of imports. 

[foreverlomsak]

Your lucky 2 of my regular watering holes have charged 60 Baht a bottle for more than 3 years and the third charges 70 Baht. Which probably means a 5 Baht increase, which is what they did last time.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

The ever increasing fuel prices are going to  have a knock on effect on what we pay  for many things.

Which fuel prices are "ever increasing" in Thailand?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, itsari said:

Beer is an inflated price in Thailand 

What does that mean?

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, itsari said:

Lining the beverage company as they more or less have a monopoly . 

There is no beer brewery in Thailand with a monopoly on the business, actual or "more or less".   

[itsari]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

There is no beer brewery in Thailand with a monopoly on the business, actual or "more or less".   

Then you continue to show you know little Lou

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, JoePai said:

I’m always surprised when posters have the temerity to call Leo, Chang, Singha et al, beer in the first place

I can't understand the temerity of anyone, anywhere, referring to "lager" as beer.

[itsari]

1 hour ago, JoePai said:

I’m always surprised when posters have the temerity to call Leo, Chang, Singha et al, beer in the first place

Its as good as any other beer Joe , 

But maybe your favoured beer is Budweiser 

[Liverpool Lou]

1 hour ago, DezLez said:

So you appear to be buying from a local shop, I assume a "Mom&Pop", in which case as they buy very small amounts at a time their delivery driver's fuel costs have gone up.  The supermarkets may absorb it but not the small local units.

The local shops get most of their supplies from the supermarkets!  Why do so many posters keep referring to "fuel prices going up" in Thailand as though they're suddenly going through the roof?  

[Lt Frank Bullitt]

Archa went up as well, 528 to 550 a ctn, or 48 to 50 a bottle at 711, Chang brewery must be hard up

[itsari]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The local shops get most of their supplies from the supermarkets!  Why do so many posters keep referring to "fuel prices going up" in Thailand as though they're suddenly going through the roof?  

The logistic companies have forced the government to reduce the tax on diesel due to the rising price of imported oil . Not many countries are ready to do the same .

Makes you wonder who is running the country , big business or the government 

[NONG CHOK]

5 hours ago, Tom H said:

2 Baht more, you write nonsense Farang.

People don't realize or care that most of us on this forum are retired expats with limited income and supporting our Thai wives and in some cases their family members. So any increases of daily requirements needs to be multiplied by 365 to get the real picture.

[itsari]

3 minutes ago, Lt Frank Bullitt said:

Archa went up as well, 528 to 550 a ctn, or 48 to 50 a bottle at 711, Chang brewery must be hard up

I believe chang beer is sold by Thailand Beverages that is registered in Singapore . 

They are a long way from being hard up . 

[itsari]

Just now, NONG CHOK said:

People don't realize or care that most of us on this forum are retired expats with limited income and supporting our Thai wives and in some cases their family members. So any increases of daily requirements needs to be multiplied by 365 to get the real picture.

There are a few crypto dealers on here that have there tail up at the moment .

Yes, i agree 100 percent what you say 

[Hoppyone]

2 hours ago, ChrisKC said:

Well, I have sympathy for the OP: after all, B2 is B2 and it all adds up (he said with just a hint of sarcasm) but...

 

For the last year I have been buying Leo Strong Brew, for me at least, better than Chang and Leo tama dar!

 

Big C - B52 for the large bottle - I bought three, only two hours ago. 

 

CHEERS!!

Think of the traveling costs 555

[itsari]

6 minutes ago, NONG CHOK said:

People don't realize or care that most of us on this forum are retired expats with limited income and supporting our Thai wives and in some cases their family members. So any increases of daily requirements needs to be multiplied by 365 to get the real picture.

55 baht to 57 baht is around 3.6 percent 

If you have a pension that is not indexed then you can have real problems in these inflationary times we find our selves in.

Then the beer has risen more like 7 percent over a 12 month period .

Most countries have forgotten about the damage inflation can cause in the last 30 years 

 

[itsari]

1 minute ago, Hoppyone said:

Think of the traveling costs 555

Good point on the travelling costs . i just ride the bicycle down the road for a few hundred meters 

[DezLez]

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

The local shops get most of their supplies from the supermarkets!  Why do so many posters keep referring to "fuel prices going up" in Thailand as though they're suddenly going through the roof?  

My next door Mom&Pop do not get from the Supermarket!

They have theirs, and mine, delivered by a bike and sidecar delivery bloke who delivers a box of Chang for 20 Baht cheaper than us collecting directly from the local Big C in CM.

Edited March 4, 2022 by DezLez

[itsari]

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

My next door Mom&Pop do not get from the Supermarket!

They have theirs, and mine, delivered by a bike and sidecar delivery bloke who delivers a box of Chang for 20 Baht cheaper than collecting from the local Big C in CM.

I know i can buy cheaper from the wholesalers . But i honestly think its positive to shop locally . 

 

[Burma Bill]

6 hours ago, itsari said:

having to pay 57 baht  for a beer instead of 55 baht

For reference Yahoo UK News 4th March 2022:-

 

Thailand’s retail inflation accelerated at the fastest pace since 2008 as the net oil importer struggled to cope with rising energy and fresh food costs, posing a policy dilemma for the central bank that’s kept interest rate at a record low to support a nascent economic recovery.

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/thai-inflation-surges-highest-since-050708549.html

[itsari]

2 minutes ago, Burma Bill said:

For reference Yahoo UK News 4th March 2022:-

 

Thailand’s retail inflation accelerated at the fastest pace since 2008 as the net oil importer struggled to cope with rising energy and fresh food costs, posing a policy dilemma for the central bank that’s kept interest rate at a record low to support a nascent economic recovery.

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/thai-inflation-surges-highest-since-050708549.html

I honestly believe that Thailand is doing there best to strengthen the baht to reduce the cost of oil imports .

I just wonder how much longer they can play that game .

[portlandtree]

5 hours ago, Hoppyone said:

Ha ha for 2 baht cheap Charlie can stop drinking 

The thing is not a few more baht 57 baht beer then 66 baht for SMS cigs damn round it off to 5 baht s we get too many 1 bahts back then when you pay with like 10-20 pieces of 1 bahts they turn a face and do away with those 1/2 and 1/4 bahts as no one takes them back. I got a whole damn jar full of them

[jimn]

Try buying a case of 12 but its still gone up by 2 baht a bottle. Last week 12 large Chang 585 baht and this week 605 baht. Not that I drink the stuff its horrible. Federbrau German beer is my drink at home beer, 719 baht for a case of 12. But being a cheap charlie you wouldnt drink that.

[Hoppyone]

49 minutes ago, portlandtree said:

The thing is not a few more baht 57 baht beer then 66 baht for SMS cigs damn round it off to 5 baht s we get too many 1 bahts back then when you pay with like 10-20 pieces of 1 bahts they turn a face and do away with those 1/2 and 1/4 bahts as no one takes them back. I got a whole damn jar full of them

No sheep stations there

[big dendrobenaes]

i pay 32 baht per tin 330mls of leo !!!

I always but from warehouses ........

750 for 24 small tins perhaps YOU should do the same!!!!!

[The Oracle]

4 hours ago, ChrisKC said:

Well, I have sympathy for the OP: after all, B2 is B2 and it all adds up (he said with just a hint of sarcasm) but...

 

For the last year I have been buying Leo Strong Brew, for me at least, better than Chang and Leo tama dar!

 

Big C - B52 for the large bottle - I bought three, only two hours ago. 

 

CHEERS!!

An absolutely *cracking* beer. 
I tried it when it came out and haven't looked back.  It's  55 baht per bottle where I am (a five baht discount on the original Leo to stimulate sales ,I assume) but I buy it by the box at 585.

[Gottfrid]

It´s still 55 in my shop! Puuh! Can afford to stay a little bit longer.