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Why do men like ladyboys?

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

Yes, as long as you assume they are whatever they claim they are. 

 

The man that has sex with lady-boys is clearly as much a heterosexual as the lady-boy is a women. 

 

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Sex acts are not the same as orientation.

Biological gender is not the same as gender identity.

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  • Liverpool Lou
    Liverpool Lou

    Why do men like ladyboys? As a generalisation, they don't.

  • bert bloggs
    bert bloggs

    No i dont understand ,thats why i ask,i

  • The Hammer2021
    The Hammer2021

    What are they supposed  to 'admit'? There is nothing to 'admit'.  I think you mean 'explain.' When I asked one of my friends he explained sex and companionship was better. He has no attraction to men.

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59 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Of course obviously most of their fans are straight guys.

Obviously?  maybe to you. By definition they are not straight - though they may present as such.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Sex acts are not the same as orientation.

Biological gender is not the same as gender identity.

Yes, I think we all know that. Sexual acts really mean nothing. 

 

I'll rephrase: The man that has sex with  is attracted to lady-boys is clearly as much a heterosexual as the lady-boy is a women. 

 

Is that better? 

 

13 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I have come to the firm conclusion that  insisting that straight men that fancy LBs can't be straight is rooted in garden variety homophobia. Thus worthless.

I have come to the firm conclusion that  insisting that men that fancy LBs are straight is rooted in garden variety heterophobia. Thus worthless.

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I have come to the firm conclusion that  insisting that men that fancy LBs are straight is rooted in garden variety heterophobia. Thus worthless.

Ridiculous.

2 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

In your parallel reality maybe.

 

Meanwhile, in the real world:

 

heterosexual
/hɛt(ə)rə(ʊ)ˈsɛkʃʊəl/
 
adjective
adjective: heterosexual
  1. (of a person) sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex.

https://languages.oup.com/google-dictionary-en/

If you haven't already, you really should have a look at the "studies" jing linked to, they're hilarious. 

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Why?

Facts.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attraction_to_transgender_people

 

Sexual attraction to transgender people has been the subject of scientific study and social commentary. Psychologists have researched sexual attraction toward trans women, cross dressers, non-binary people, and a combination of these. Cisgender men attracted to transgender women primarily identify as heterosexual and sometimes as bisexual, but rarely as homosexual. 

I would call you a liar, but I don't doubt you believe your idiocy.

 

From (apparently) the biggest "study" from your link shows that homosexual men are more likely to date lady-boys by a pretty wide margin than are heterosexual men. 

 

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How funny is that? 

 

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

If you haven't already, you really should have a look at the "studies" jing linked to, they're hilarious. 

I wouldn't give them the time of day - I don't have to. I'm fully aware of what heterosexual means and its certainly not someone who is attracted to or has relations with a member of the opposite sex. Ladyboys may claim to be female - they are not.

 

As I said in an earlier post, I may wish to identify as black and change my appearance to look thus - does it make me black?  If I subsequently enter my ethnicity as black on a form, is that true simply because I wish to identify as such?

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I would call you a liar, but I don't doubt you believe your idiocy.

 

From (apparently) the biggest "study" from your link shows that homosexual men are more likely to date lady-boys by a pretty wide margin than are heterosexual men. 

 

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How funny is that? 

 

How bad is your math?

Gay men are a tiny minority compared to straight men.

Thus looking at those numbers which you used to mock me, any logical person with a basic understanding of math would conclude that the vast majority of men interested in LBs are indeed straight.

I have said all I want to say on this topic multiple times so I think the time is right  for me to exit this thread.

 

I have had enough of the willful ignorance displayed by most. I have endured multiple pedo baiting troll posts, and  other assorted homophobic comments just for trying to defend straight men.

 

Its not worth it. I'm not into LBs myself AT ALL and if most gender conforming bullying insisting on mis-labeling straight men into LBs I certainly can't stop them.

 

Carry on dudes (without me).

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Thus looking at those numbers which you used to mock me, any logical person with a basic understanding of math would conclude that the vast majority of men interested in LBs are indeed straight.

Jeez.

 

Forget your studies and numbers. How the hell can any man who has sex with another man be straight?  I'm not talking about what they think, how they feel or how the ladyboy chooses to 'identify'. The plain and simple fact is that they are having sexual relations with a man and in no way can that be considered heterosexual!  That's not an opinion, its a fact.

 

Why must we 'twist' definitions - it makes a mockery of what they mean.

 

What's wrong with saying it as it is.

 

Heterosexual/Straight - non-derogatory

Homosexual/Gay - non-derogatory

Bisexual - non-derogatory

Transgender - non-derogatory.

 

We have those deifinitions to distinguish and identify each type. You are wishing to blur those identities - why? We have an alternative identity - if it turns out that a male has sexual attraction to or relations with a man then its quite simple - he is then identified as Bisexual. What the hell is wrong with that?

 

Its much the same as the reason we need to identify the colours of crayons in a pack - but I have no doubt you'll go down the 'I don't accept labels route again'.

 

21 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

How bad is your math?

Gay men are a tiny minority compared to straight men.

Thus looking at those numbers which you used to mock me, any logical person with a basic understanding of math would conclude that the vast majority of men interested in LBs are indeed straight.

Clearly better than yours. Again from your study, less than half the of the men in the study identified as heterosexual. 

 

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Did you even look at it? 

 

22 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

How bad is your math?

Gay men are a tiny minority compared to straight men.

Thus looking at those numbers which you used to mock me, any logical person with a basic understanding of math would conclude that the vast majority of men interested in LBs are indeed straight.

20 times more likely to be "hetero"

Say 100 straights to 5 gay guys would date ladyboys

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I have said all I want to say on this topic multiple times so I think the time is right  for me to exit this thread.

 

I have had enough of the willful ignorance displayed by most. I have endured multiple pedo baiting troll posts, and  other assorted homophobic comments just for trying to defend straight men.

 

Its not worth it. I'm not into LBs myself AT ALL and if most gender conforming bullies insist on mis-labeling straight men into LBs I certainly can't stop them.

 

Carry on dudes (without me).

Go with God brother. 

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I have had enough of the willful ignorance displayed by most. I have endured multiple pedo baiting troll posts, and  other assorted homophobic comments just for trying to defend straight men.

You've proved yet another point with that post. You totally ignore what people say and read what you want to read into people's posts.  I have certainly explained that I am not making any homophobic comments or using examples of paedophillia in a derogatory sense.  In fact I don't think I've ever written the word derogatory so many times before. You choose to ignore that and install your own 'chip on the shoulder' mentality.

 

If you disagree - show me an example where I haven't given an explanation.

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I have said it before and i will say it again,no matter what a ladyboy thinks ,she is a man,and if a man goes with her and plays with her penis he is not completely hetro,he is bi ,no matter what he tries to tell himself.

As for the fact one man wants to have sex with another man ,i couldnt care less,i just dont want it thrust in my face,by them kissing and trying to convince us its natural, but i am sure no matter what i say they do believe its natural,

I am sure my lesbian cousin thinks it is or my homosexual nephew does ,i have never asked them.

 

 

4 hours ago, 1FinickyOne said:

I don't think anyone is waiting for your acceptance... and how nice of you to chat them up... 

Look sunshine, if anyone approaches me and is pleasant, I will be pleasant back, anything wrong with that? Now run along.

8 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Looks like a woman going through a sex change including breast reduction, no big deal

According to an a certain outdated definition of woman, yes.

 

Do you have an opinion on what bathroom "she" should use, what golf league "she" should be allowed to play in or whether "she" should be barred from military service?

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8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I have come to the firm conclusion that  insisting that straight men that fancy LBs can't be straight is rooted in garden variety homophobia and transphobia. Thus worthless. Not based on reality, Based on hard wired prejudiced emotions.

I don't understand how suggesting a man that sleeps with Asian men dressed as women is bi-sexual is either homophobic or transphobic.

You seem to be suggesting that calling a man Bi is a form of abuse. 

 

P.S. I realise that Jing has left the building, but just saying...

3 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

According to an a certain outdated definition of woman, yes.

 

Do you have an opinion on what bathroom "she" should use, what golf league "she" should be allowed to play in or whether "she" should be barred from military service?

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only the issues in sport, a transgender playing in a ladies golf event wouldn't be fair, most men are a lot stronger and hit it further hence on the tours length of courses are shorter than mens

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7 hours ago, Captain Monday said:

According to an a certain outdated definition of woman, yes.

 

Do you have an opinion on what bathroom "she" should use, what golf league "she" should be allowed to play in or whether "she" should be barred from military service?

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Nothing is oudated  if you are born a man/  woman you die the same sex  Dont care what " he" looks like " he" is still a woman with  vagina and a womb .

13 hours ago, bert bloggs said:

As for the fact one man wants to have sex with another man ,i couldnt care less,i just dont want it thrust in my face,by them kissing and trying to convince us its natural, but i am sure no matter what i say they do believe its natural,

 

 

Have to pull you up on that one. If I see a man kissing a man in public I feel revulsion because it's not something that I would want to do, but that is a sign of my own prejudices.

 

Those men did not choose to be gay, so by the very nature of it, their homosexuality is natural. Your response (like mine above) is pretty clear homophobia. I try to hide mine though as it's a sign of my weaknesses, not theirs.

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32 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

Have to pull you up on that one. If I see a man kissing a man in public I feel revulsion because it's not something that I would want to do, but that is a sign of my own prejudices.

 

Those men did not choose to be gay, so by the very nature of it, their homosexuality is natural. Your response (like mine above) is pretty clear homophobia. I try to hide mine though as it's a sign of my weaknesses, not theirs.

Well i reckon most men are weak as i doubt many want to see two men kissing but then what do i know as you reckon i am homophobic.

2 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Well i reckon most men are weak as i doubt many want to see two men kissing but then what do i know as you reckon i am homophobic.

Point your feet against a thai, and wait for the reaction ????

 

It is what we are told since we are kids what is discusting or not. Im getting used to see men kissing by now, but really Im not, still some chringing inside me do not want to see that. I am homophobic?  Not intellectually but by feeling yes. 

37 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Well i reckon most men are weak as i doubt many want to see two men kissing but then what do i know as you reckon i am homophobic.

I'm not reckoning it, I'm seeing it. From dictionary.com - "an aversion or hostility to, disdain for, or fear of gay sexual orientation or gay people.". Not wanting to see two men kissing is an aversion of gay sexual orientation or gay people. I'm not judging you for it, but what I'm saying is it's disingenuous to say what you say on one hand but also don't want to be labelled as homophobic on the other.

1 hour ago, Woof999 said:

Have to pull you up on that one. If I see a man kissing a man in public I feel revulsion because it's not something that I would want to do, but that is a sign of my own prejudices.

 

Those men did not choose to be gay, so by the very nature of it, their homosexuality is natural. Your response (like mine above) is pretty clear homophobia. I try to hide mine though as it's a sign of my weaknesses, not theirs.

For me it would depend on the kiss. I get disgusted when I see men and women kissing in public if they're going on and on. 

 

For some it's a choice, for others it's not, just like heterosexuals. 

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11 minutes ago, Woof999 said:

I'm not reckoning it, I'm seeing it. From dictionary.com - "an aversion or hostility to, disdain for, or fear of gay sexual orientation or gay people.". Not wanting to see two men kissing is an aversion of gay sexual orientation or gay people. I'm not judging you for it, but what I'm saying is it's disingenuous to say what you say on one hand but also don't want to be labelled as homophobic on the other.

I am not averse to gay people ,i just dont want to watch them kissing or making love etc ,i love dogs,but i dont want to watch them sniffing each others bums or having a sh- g 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

For me it would depend on the kiss. I get disgusted when I see men and women kissing in public if they're going on and on. 

That's a valid point for sure.

 

I hate many forms of seafood and pretty much all crustaceans. I cringe when my wife eats them in a fashion not all that dissimilar from the feeling of seeing two men kissing. One of those feelings is socially acceptable and the other no longer is and I have no problem with that.

 

I also have an irrational fear of spiders, which makes me arachnophobic, but being labelled as one doesn't have the same stigma perhaps as being labelled homophobic, The stigma attached to whatever term doesn't make the labelling of it any more of less real.

 

 

Just now, bert bloggs said:

I am not averse to gay people ,i just dont want to watch them kissing or making love etc ,i love dogs,but i dont want to watch them sniffing each others bums or having a sh- g 

Yet you didn't start a thread about why dogs sniff each other?

 

"i just dont want it thrust in my face,by them kissing and trying to convince us its natural" is what you wrote upthread and that's probably the driver of what you write. It's not natural to you but it is to them. I would think that most gays don't choose to be gay any more than you choose to be hetero. I'm not trying to label you as anything, i just find it interesting that you've made some comments that could reasonably be seen as being homophobic (especially the parts about you not believing it is natural) but can't begin to believe that you might be at least tending towards homophobia.

 

I've also written upthread that I'm pretty similar in many ways and don't have an issue being called out on it.

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