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I am only going on personal experience, but trying to find a good value condo in the Pattaya area is getting tougher.

Having been in the same condo I decided it was time to move and maybe enjoy a different area in Pattaya.

Having experienced the decline in tourists due to the Covid pandemic of the past three years, I thought there must be a huge amount of choice.

I now realise that Pattaya is again back in fashion and that is evident by the number of Thais who flock here every weekend and start taking their selfies all over the place.

With international travellers also returning many landlords are at last seeing some light at the end of the tunnel.

I have lost count of the number of large condos I have visited where they keep saying we are sold out and have almost no rentals to show you.

 

It would seem the lure of higher daily returns when renting out a condo via Airbnb is also taking quite a few prime units off the agents lists too.

Another frustrating issue is the habit of some realtors to still post condos for rent, when they were actually rented up to six months back.

It may be a way of showing they have a lot of inventory, but it is very time consuming and annoying for the clients looking.

 

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As prime areas like Cozy Beach and Pratamnak are getting expensive I thought I would venture East to check out Na Jomtien or even Bang Saray.

Both are quieter areas but with fantastic beaches and lower rentals.

However, it seems the 20 kms along from Pattaya to Sattahip is just one big construction site for a new expressway.

Unlikely to be complete for another year, I certainly would not want to endure those traffic jams and dust for 12 months!

My observations are concerning Pattaya so I cannot speak about the situation in Bangkok, Hua Hin or say Phuket. Let us know.

 

So at the moment, I suppose to find my ideal 50-60m2 of space will just take a bit longer and unfortunately may cost me a bit more too.

 

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There are loads of quality condos available in Pattaya, I am a landlord and have rented a few units last two month long term to expats, things have picked up for quality units. On Jomtien there are quality units at Cetus and Aeras and a few other projects.

How much are you looking to pay ?

My friend has a few condos for rent , do you want his contact details ?

2 hours ago, webfact said:

I am only going on personal experience, but trying to find a good value condo in the Pattaya area is getting tougher.

yes they are all the size of a caravan

Well, if you leave "the Beverley Hills of Pattaya" you can only go downhill from there.

shoebox condos:)

It’s a fallacy to believe what the media tells you. 
it’s just a lull before the next storm... after June 2022, the world will get much worse... 

My crystal ball do not share your sentiments... 

Wait a few months. With new covid variants coming online and monkeypox ramping up, there will be many more condos soon.

Depends what people are looking for. There are plenty of condos for long term rent 6-12 months+, but they are condos, partly furnished, no linen/towels/plates/cutlery, no cleaner, tenant pays utilities, deposit, sign a lease etc.

What there isn't a lot of, is condos for 2 week tourists with all the facilities/services of a hotel.

 

For some reason, its become the mantra on social media nowadays, "coming next month for 3 weeks, looking for a condo". Without realizing what a condo is.

 

90% of condos are for long term rent, they are not set up for 2 week stays with all the hotel services/facilities. (if they are, they are the same price as a hotel).

 

If someone is having problems finding a condo, its because they are looking for 2 week stay in a longterm condo, when in reality, they want a hotel.

 

Cozy beach isn't prime location it's part of the dead zone

8 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Cozy beach isn't prime location it's part of the dead zone

The 'dead zone', pls tell us more???

1 minute ago, PJ71 said:

The 'dead zone', pls tell us more???

Anything around Kasetsin is cut off from the rest of the world, too far to walk, taxis or transport essential. Newbies don't know and rent or buy there, plenty of soi dogs there

Sounds like a strange attempt at an advert.

Doesn't make sense.

We have a nice size 2-bed house in one of the Chok Chai garden homes. It's big, spacey, clean, nice kitchen, all the mod cons, furniture, 2 huge beds, air con etc. 10,000 baht a month on a 3 year contract. Why bother with a condo when houses are so cheap to rent. Personally I know of houses here where they cannot rent at 15k a month and looking to seal bargain long term rents at 10k.

 

Can't think of a reason to live near the beach area,  other than for women. Which my wife wont allow ????

22 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

Anything around Kasetsin is cut off from the rest of the world, too far to walk, taxis or transport essential. Newbies don't know and rent or buy there, plenty of soi dogs there

Soi dogs is a null point as they're not unique to this area alone.

 

Transport is essential i agree, Bolt and the likes make this easy now. There's everything you need in that area that you don't need to leave every day. I love the area, some of the condo's there offer great footprints and value unlike the newer show boxes.

 

Annaul condo fees can be high tho, if you're buying.

58 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Depends what people are looking for. There are plenty of condos for long term rent 6-12 months+, but they are condos, partly furnished, no linen/towels/plates/cutlery, no cleaner, tenant pays utilities, deposit, sign a lease etc.

What there isn't a lot of, is condos for 2 week tourists with all the facilities/services of a hotel.

 

For some reason, its become the mantra on social media nowadays, "coming next month for 3 weeks, looking for a condo". Without realizing what a condo is.

 

90% of condos are for long term rent, they are not set up for 2 week stays with all the hotel services/facilities. (if they are, they are the same price as a hotel).

 

If someone is having problems finding a condo, its because they are looking for 2 week stay in a longterm condo, when in reality, they want a hotel.

 

Surprised your informative post omitted the fact rental of condos via AB and B or any other method for less than thirty days is illegal in Thailand.

Have you tried the Whale Marina complex in Na Jomtiem I know there some 2 bedrooms 83 sqm for rent or buy

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Having experienced the decline in tourists due to the Covid pandemic of the past three years, I thought there must be a huge amount of choice.

 

AirBnB suggests different ........... 9kbht/month.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/27123112?check_in=2022-06-01&check_out=2023-07-01&display_extensions[]=MONTHLY_STAYS&federated_search_id=8c5f8eb1-a6a9-4c41-85c0-2595aa997643&source_impression_id=p3_1653704737_vDMP3DZuG6THl9ob

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Pratamnak

Deary me..................

1 hour ago, jippytum said:

Surprised your informative post omitted the fact rental of condos via AB and B or any other method for less than thirty days is illegal in Thailand.

So are prostitution and gambling, AFAIK that has not prevented either.

In Soputh Pattaya, around Soi Kopai, you can rent 100th of Condos, mostly Studios or 1 Bedroom, many brandnew, in deals starting at 7.000 Baht, with Pool and fitness facilitities, many shops around, fast free wifi, free Motorbike and car parking, Motorbike Taxi in front of the Condo, Baht Bus just some minutes to walk, Tukcom in 5-10 minutes walking distance same like Soi Buakao. But: The original posting dont mention any price he is willing to pay.. who expect 3.000 Baht rent for a 1-bedroom will not find a offer

1 hour ago, Mr Salty said:

I have been a member  of this Asannow for many years and I never respond to the articles and leave my thoughts, but this one I just felt I had to.

 

What a load of total <deleted>, there are so many condos available everywhere, Landlords are doing deals for long term rentals, what one landlord told me is that many tenants are down grading to different  condos to try and save rent money, there have been many customers that are moving from two bed condos down to one beds and customers in one beds moving down to studios..

 

I live in Cosy Beach and you can now get  one bed condo for 10K and studios for 7k, so if that is expensive, perhaps, you may need to look on the  Darkseid where you can rent something for 4= 5k amonth 

 

The average price in cosy Beach for a 2 bed is between  20 to 25k depending on the qualityof the condo. So I would be interested to know on how much this persons budget is, as he did not seem to mention this in his post.

 

And  as far as Cosy Beach not having access to taxis and not a prime area, I have lived in this area for three years and, I would not live anywhere else, although it is not in the center of Pattaya and  not on a Bhat Bus route, it is very easy to get a bolt taxi or if you drive a bike only 10min from Beach road, or Jomtian,  you also have a beach , sky Galaxy,  chocolate  factory  and other restaurants  to enjoy  the views., there are also a few bars on the main road, and if you like  real good hombaked  beigels and a Jewish deli there is also one near by, delivery or collection only, as well as Peaky Blinders who I would say do the best burgers  in town.

 

So I certainly  would not say Cosy Beach is  not a prime location, I would say for me personally it is the nicest part of Pattaya  as your are away from the madness but also not to far from the madness if you want it, 

Absolutely agree, great area and I've stayed in Pattaya (north, south, central), jomtien, wongamat and the dark side previously. I'm renting one of those 1 bedrooms for 7k. Partial sea view. Great deal and I hardly see anyone at my pool or around the condo reception area, lift, carpark, etc. So nice and quiet and peaceful.

 

3 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

We have a nice size 2-bed house in one of the Chok Chai garden homes. It's big, spacey, clean, nice kitchen, all the mod cons, furniture, 2 huge beds, air con etc. 10,000 baht a month on a 3 year contract. Why bother with a condo when houses are so cheap to rent. Personally I know of houses here where they cannot rent at 15k a month and looking to seal bargain long term rents at 10k.

 

Can't think of a reason to live near the beach area,  other than for women. Which my wife wont allow ????

yes sure, you must be correct, people live in a sea resort city to live far from the beach ! what an idea !!!!!

it's so funny how much you don't even see that living somewhere that is not at walking distance to the beach is plain ridiculous !!!!

your wife didn't tell you because she doesn't know and understand more than you I am sure !!!

pity pity pity

1 hour ago, Mr Salty said:

And  as far as Cosy Beach not having access to taxis and not a prime area, I have lived in this area for three years and, I would not live anywhere else

yes it's great if you like to feel handicapped by not being able to walk anywhere !

so ridiculous compared to Pratamnak 4, 5, 6 where you even are at walking distance to bahtbus...

 

14 minutes ago, bangkokstick said:

yes it's great if you like to feel handicapped by not being able to walk anywhere !

so ridiculous compared to Pratamnak 4, 5, 6 where you even are at walking distance to bahtbus...

 

I'd think it's a buyer's / renter's market.  Location location location though vs your wallet.

I would post  a number of vids from Youtube  showing large slightly older 80 sqm 1 bedroom condos with some being renovated at 12,000 baht a month but I don;t want to be banned for advertising properties even though I have nothing to do with them. Just go on Youtube and search.

5 minutes ago, Tony125 said:

I would post  a number of vids from Youtube  showing large slightly older 80 sqm 1 bedroom condos with some being renovated at 12,000 baht a month but I don;t want to be banned for advertising properties even though I have nothing to do with them. Just go on Youtube and search.

Fits into my usually thinking when people state they can't find something, then 'you're not looking very hard'.  IMHO

 

When searching rentals for my daughter (Krung Thep) there were so many options, had to filter them down quite a bit, so not to be overwhelmed with listings.  She simply ended up getting from 'word of mouth', and more than a few of those suggested to her.  Didn't even need to do any legwork / driving around searching.

 

Same when we were looking for rentals, 1 or 2 day of searching the areas interested in, and more than enough available, not during covid or now, 2008/2015.   Got to be way more now available.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

AirBnB suggests different ........... 9kbht/month.

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/27123112?check_in=2022-06-01&check_out=2023-07-01&display_extensions[]=MONTHLY_STAYS&federated_search_id=8c5f8eb1-a6a9-4c41-85c0-2595aa997643&source_impression_id=p3_1653704737_vDMP3DZuG6THl9ob

Dusit seems to always be a class act... looks like a nice pool.

Last June, as Covid peaked in Bangkok, I rented a nice, 60 s/m 2 b.r. in an older Jomtien Beach condo building, water view, 300 meters from the beach, not far from the night market.   

I originally rented at B13,000m./3 month contract.  When the contract was nearly finished and I informed the owner that I would be moving to a less expensive unit, he offered to lower the rent to B10,000/m, 6 month contract which I accepted.  We recently agreed on another 6 month extension.  

He said he would much rather have a steady tenant who pays on time than play the short term rental game with high turnover.

Sometime in the unforeseeable future, the regular crowds will return and rents will shoot-up. Prior to Covid, my unit rented for B25,000/m. I kept my very inexpensive unit in Bangkok for just that eventuality..

6 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

We have a nice size 2-bed house in one of the Chok Chai garden homes. It's big, spacey, clean, nice kitchen, all the mod cons, furniture, 2 huge beds, air con etc. 10,000 baht a month on a 3 year contract. Why bother with a condo when houses are so cheap to rent. Personally I know of houses here where they cannot rent at 15k a month and looking to seal bargain long term rents at 10k.

 

Can't think of a reason to live near the beach area,  other than for women. Which my wife wont allow ????

If someone wanted to rent for just 12 months what would they expect to pay for such a property?