Trump brought U.S. ‘dangerously close to catastrophe’, January 6 panel says

[pomchop]

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Well, I often meet some of those yanks while riding my motorbike around Thailand, and they more than happy to tell me how right Mr Trump was and is about how to get things done, and straight up the whole world. 

Delusional people wanting to share their delusions....just try and ignore them as the truth will not fit into their tiny little brains that are full of cult kool aide.

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18 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Terrifying ... ????

https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows/

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-footage-police-trump-insurrection-mob

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/protesters-walk-around-on-senate-floor-after-breaking-into-capitol-building-98948677663

Cherry picking videos much? You think because some videos show the rioters not behaving violently that this is proof that they didn't riot?

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18 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Terrifying ... ????

https://nypost.com/2021/01/07/capitol-police-hold-door-for-pro-trump-protesters-video-shows/

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/capitol-footage-police-trump-insurrection-mob

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/video/protesters-walk-around-on-senate-floor-after-breaking-into-capitol-building-98948677663

Thanks to the popularity of Nature documentaries, you can find plenty of videos of lions strolling about under the shade of a tree. I guess to your way of thinking this proves that lions aren't predators.

[KhunLA]

4 hours ago, placeholder said:

Cherry picking videos much? You think because some videos show the rioters not behaving violently that this is proof that they didn't riot?

I've yet to see one vid, of anyone inside the building, being threatening.  Just the crowd outside yelling silly c r a p.  Hang him up BS.  That's cherry picking ... empty verbal threats at that.  Outside the building.  Scary stuff ... not forty feet away ... ????

 

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4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I've yet to see one vid, of anyone inside the building, being threatening.  Just the crowd outside yelling silly c r a p.  Hang him up BS.  That's cherry picking ... empty verbal threats at that.  Outside the building.  Scary stuff ... not forty feet away ... ????

 

If you have seen no videos of crowds violently attacking police and pushing their way into the Capitol, that's because you're avoiding looking for them. As for once they were inside the Capitol, exactly how many members of Congress, the targets of their ire,  did they encounter? I'll give you a hint: less than one.

[Bkk Brian]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

No not a big nothing

 

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4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

So if I'm at the zoo, and a lion roars, I should be scared for my life, and I'll surely be attacked if I don't take cover.   hmm .... 

 

Idiots outside, yelling BS vs idiots inside, not really knowing what to do, once they got there. 

What don't you understand about the obvious fact, once inside, that there was no human targets available for these rioters to attack? You think their rage was just reserved for the Capitol police?

[OneMoreFarang]

How long will Americans watch and talk and complain and do whatever until they actually do something serious against that traitor and his supporters?

Put him in jail! Prosecute all politicians who only work in their own interest and who ignore the constitution.

The situation is crystal clear. No further evidence is necessary.

Arrest him! Do it! Now!

[JimTripper]

On 6/17/2022 at 9:34 AM, Berkshire said:

Agree.  Arrest the lying [Trump] already so the country can move forward. 

Probably better of just keeping him out of the news and attention. He's thinking of running again so he will try to attract attention in any way possible.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I've yet to see one vid, of anyone inside the building, being threatening.  Just the crowd outside yelling silly c r a p.  Hang him up BS.  That's cherry picking ... empty verbal threats at that.  Outside the building.  Scary stuff ... not forty feet away ... ????

 

Have you seen videos of people outside the Capitol using mob violence to overcome barricades, uniformed US security people, and the doors and windows of the Capitol to get inside?

[rudi49jr]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

Well, that wasn’t for a lack of trying. Mike Pence at one point was just 40 foot away from the mob. Guess what would have happened if they had managed to get their hands om him? That’s not dangerously close to catastrophe for you?

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

You don't think the mob attempting to force its way into the House Chambers, forcing trained security people to open fire and kill Ashli Babbitt, shows some potential to undermine our system of government?

 

If the security people had not done a good job of evacuating people the mob might have taken dozens if not hundreds of hostages.  Would you consider that "dangerously close to catastrophe"?

 

What do you think those peaceful protesters who violently forced their way into the Capitol were up to?

[rudi49jr]

34 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

What do you think those peaceful protesters who violently forced their way into the Capitol were up to?

Well, Republican representative Andrew Clyde from Georgia (Marjory Taylor Green’s state, probably just a coincidence) said it was ‘just a normal tourist visit’. Mind you, that same guy is seen cowering in a barricaded room on video footage taken on January 6, trying to hide from the mobs roaming the hallways of the Capitol.

Edited June 18, 2022 by rudi49jr

[candide]

57 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Well, Republican representative Andrew Clyde from Georgia (Marjory Taylor Green’s state, probably just a coincidence) said it was ‘just a normal tourist visit’. Mind you, that same guy is seen cowering in a barricaded room on video footage taken on January 6, trying to hide from the mobs roaming the hallways of the Capitol.

Don't let the tourists in! ????

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/captiol-riot-andrew-clyde-chamber-b1848332.html

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

No not a big nothing

 

 

This 12 minute video shown by the committee during its first hearing shows the true extent of the mob violence, attacks on capitol police officers, threats to hang Pence, hunting for Pelosi, etc etc....

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

And there was this additional disclosure re the real threats against Pence's life from the demonstrators:

 

"Pence came within about 40 feet of some of the pro-Trump rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol building, said Rep. Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., who led much of Thursday’s hearing.

 

“Make no mistake about the fact that the vice president’s life was in danger,” Aguilar said.

 

He noted that a confidential informant from the Proud Boys told the FBI that members of the far-right group “would have killed Mike Pence if given a chance,” according to a recent court filing by the Department of Justice."

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/jan-6-hearing-takeaways-trump-pushed-pence-to-reject-key-votes.html

 

[onthedarkside]

An off-topic post has been removed, along with several trolling and misinformation posts.

 

[Bkk Brian]

26 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

And there was this additional disclosure re the real threats against Pence's life from the demonstrators:

 

"Pence came within about 40 feet of some of the pro-Trump rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol building, said Rep. Pete Aguilar, D-Calif., who led much of Thursday’s hearing.

 

“Make no mistake about the fact that the vice president’s life was in danger,” Aguilar said.

 

He noted that a confidential informant from the Proud Boys told the FBI that members of the far-right group “would have killed Mike Pence if given a chance,” according to a recent court filing by the Department of Justice."

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/17/jan-6-hearing-takeaways-trump-pushed-pence-to-reject-key-votes.html

 

 

 

Several rioters also had firearms and dozens more wielded knives, bats and other real and makeshift weapons

 

https://www.rawstory.com/did-capitol-rioters-carry-guns/

[rudi49jr]

Just now, Bkk Brian said:

 

 

Several rioters also had firearms and dozens more wielded knives, bats and other real and makeshift weapons

 

https://www.rawstory.com/did-capitol-rioters-carry-guns/

What about the gallows they had erected outside? I’d bet my last dollar that most rioters would stand cheering had they caught Mike Pence (and/or Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, AOC) and actually hanged them there. 
What about Lauren Boebert constantly tweeting Nancy Pelosi’s position in the Capitol? That was nothing short of an invitation to the rioters to come and get her. Boebert should face charges for that.

What about the tours that several Republican representatives gave on January 5th to groups of people who turned out to be among the rioters the next day? They also should face charges for that.

 

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, candide said:

Don't let the tourists in! ????

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/captiol-riot-andrew-clyde-chamber-b1848332.html

TAT’s new motto

[farmerjo]

16 hours ago, heybruce said:

Have you ever noticed that intelligent people do not speak as much as dumb people?  Dumb people speak loudly, confidently, and too much.

This forum to a T.

[pomchop]

14 hours ago, KhunLA said:

I've yet to see one vid, of anyone inside the building, being threatening.  Just the crowd outside yelling silly c r a p.  Hang him up BS.  That's cherry picking ... empty verbal threats at that.  Outside the building.  Scary stuff ... not forty feet away ... ????

 

see no evil hear no evil....got it.

[Scott]

Troll post removed.  

 

[Jingthing]

Decently informed people knew (and Trump did too) that this was going to happen many months before the election.

 

What Is the Red Mirage? Meaning Behind Trump's False Sense of Victory (newsweek.com)

 

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Former President Donald Trump has continually said the 2020 election was "stolen" and "rigged," pointing to places where he had an early lead only to fall behind later as evidence but a former Fox News employee says this is commonly known as the "Red Mirage."

 

On Monday, the House committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the United States Capitol held its second televised hearing. During the Monday morning hearing, Chris Stirewalt, former Fox News political editor, testified before the committee and talked about the 2020 presidential election and some of what went into the networks' calls.

 

 

[onthedarkside]

An exchange of off-topic posts re-arguing over the vote counting in the 2020 presidential election have been removed.

 

[bendejo]

On 6/16/2022 at 4:30 PM, PolarAttack said:

Is “dangerously close” the same as almost pregnant?  Maybe quit wasting time/money looking in the rear view mirror and focus on your country going forward.

The shenanigans of 1/6 can be viewed as a test bed for future antics.  Look at what they tried in New Mexico in the past week.  More fun and games for the November midterms, you can bet on it.

https://lasvegassun.com/news/2022/jun/17/screams-threats-as-new-mexico-counties-try-to-cert/

 

On 6/16/2022 at 10:14 PM, Thingamabob said:

'Dangerously close' to what ? Total liberal left BS.

 

On 6/17/2022 at 12:36 AM, rudi49jr said:

Just look at what happened on January 6th: dangerously close to mob rule. A bunch of ill-informed people were not happy with the outcome of the election, and egged on by Trump and company they decided to storm the Capitol. What would have happened, if they had gotten their hands on Pelosi, AOC or Schumer? Or Mike Pence:
 

 

Is 40 feet close enough?

https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/nation-world/jan-6-panel-trump-pressure-pence/507-8b2caeb9-4cbb-426c-ad91-12f8cc850daf

 

The whole thing hinged on him, and he stood up to the insanity.  The media is freely speculating on what would have happened if he left the Capital Building.  What I'm wondering is what if the lynch mob did catch up to him, and his security detail had to fire their weapons at them?  Would the Big Lie Believers be saying "no, they were chanting 'hang out with Mike Pence,' you know, like drink beer and watch football and eat chicken wings etc.?

It was the day the yes-man said "no."  My hat off to him, I wouldn't have thought he had it in him.

 

Barr is being heralded for saying the coup plans were bs, but only said it after DT was out of office.  But in his resignation letter he's still kissing the orange backside and saying it smells like roses.  He is no hero.  Like all his fellow sycophants he lacked the guts to tell the world just what this megalomaniac was up to.  "And the Benedict Arnold award goes to . . ."

 

 

[Jingthing]

The coup attempt failed (this time) but there were still many crimes in the failed attempt including the chief conspirator. We don't let off bank robbers if their robbery fails. 

[rudi49jr]

On 6/18/2022 at 6:24 AM, KhunLA said:

I've yet to see one vid, of anyone inside the building, being threatening.  Just the crowd outside yelling silly c r a p.  Hang him up BS.  That's cherry picking ... empty verbal threats at that.  Outside the building.  Scary stuff ... not forty feet away ... ????

 

Here’s a video I found after less than 5 seconds on Google:

 

 

Does that contain enough violence and threats inside the building for you, and a little more than just empty verbal threats and crowds yelling silly <deleted>, as you put it?

And it’s funny that your catch phrase at the bottom of every one of your posts is ‘better research=better holiday”. Maybe you should do some more research on this topic before posting claims that are demonstrably false.

Edited June 19, 2022 by rudi49jr

[Jingthing]

On 6/18/2022 at 11:24 AM, KhunLA said:

I've yet to see one vid, of anyone inside the building, being threatening.  Just the crowd outside yelling silly c r a p.  Hang him up BS.  That's cherry picking ... empty verbal threats at that.  Outside the building.  Scary stuff ... not forty feet away ... ????

 

Sure thing dude.

Stand back and stand by indeed.

 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2022 by Jingthing

[RocketDog]

On 6/17/2022 at 6:30 AM, PolarAttack said:

Is “dangerously close” the same as almost pregnant?  Maybe quit wasting time/money looking in the rear view mirror and focus on your country going forward.

I disagree.

So many Republicans still believe the big lie and still pledge fealty to that most heinous and deranged creature called trump.

We must keep them and their campaign of organized destruction of democracy and agenda of social injustice firmly in sight;  now and for decades to come.

 

Threats like this are cyclical because power seeking wannabe dictators will take advantage of any loss of vigilance.

 

For the next several decades schools should teach about how such a dangerous and incompetent failure of a  businessman highjacked a weak and misguided political party into supporting him in his demented and criminal bid for autocratic power.

 

This battle is far from over until voting rights are firmly and irrevocably strengthened against future attempts to weaken or destroy them. There are already politians of the same ilk as trump hoping to step in and pick up the power base of social misfits and bigots that are still trump's key supporters.

 

Their motives and tactics must be illuminated and scrutinized carefully, not forgotten or ignored.