Why isn't every male in the UK living in thailand?

[spidermike007]

On 7/28/2022 at 11:12 PM, Bday Prang said:

If you tell most guys back home you are heading this way you can expect the usual "Pedo" type comments etc  normally from people who have never been out of their village for years and are just plain  jealous

I noticed that a lot of these  guys seem to be very curious regarding ladyboys,  unnaturally so

I mention that I am a student of history. With a particular interest in ancient Sukhothai architecture. Especially late 13th century temples built during the reign of King Ram Kamhaeng, and the fascinating Chedi designs. 

 

Wow. Talk about a look of utter confusion on their faces! 

[spidermike007]

5 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Mike how does a guy make it to age 50+ and still is single?

 

That doesn't say much about the man.

 

Everyone you know is single, perhaps your quality of friends is pretty low or there is something wrong with the lot of them to still be single after age 50

 

You are with a 36 year old woman for the same reason everyone else is here. Woman for the most part are desparate. Women accept fat, old men as a trade off for a better life where as per your claim men cannot accept old and fat in their own country

 

Ask yourself would you even be in Thailand, if Thai women hated ALL foreigners and you couldn't get a 36 year old?

 

Sure younger age, lesser means, lessor education, lessor everything

 

These women were not lonely before you came along

 

There are millions of men in the countries you mention have lives you could never dream of in Thailand

 

You are in Thailand because you are of limited financial means.

 

No more, no less.

 

You have mentioned 100 times you would live in the US if you had millions, but you don't

 

I seriously do not dream of your life in Thailand as a dream life.

 

I have 26 rai and a giant house, cars, etc. I see my life as a compromise to where my wife wants to live. I still have a wonderful place, all paid for, in the US. Pretty sure that life is more of a dream than here.  

Alot of my single friends back in the US are smart, charming, successful and wonderful men. Here, I have a few single friends who simply cannot afford to have a woman in their lives.

 

But wow. Alot of profoundly ugly judgment, in one post. Perhaps the "most judgmental post of the week"? 

 

No need to address any specifics when a man has his mind set on tearing down the lifestyle of any other, with a very limited amount of information to work with, and alot of preconceived nations. 

 

I tend to be more a life and let live sort. 

Edited July 30, 2022 by spidermike007

[Sparktrader]

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

The concept of marriage is well known and can be summed up in the following words

                                             " find someone  you hate and buy them a house",

most people change as they get older and what worked years ago might not work so well in the present .  People would not mate for life if they were to follow their natural instincts.   Rather they would  be inclined to stay together long enough to give the off spring a chance to survive., which some anthropologists estimate  would be around 7 years which kind of explains the "seven year itch"   Marriage has  been forced/ inflicted on people for perceived religious and societal reasons and is not really the natural way of life   Your romantic fantasy about people wanting to share everything and spend the rest of their lives together is straight out of a mills and boon novel

True. Plus kids and work and annoying folks.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

True statement, however, all men had the choice of who they wanted their partner to be.

No man willingly marries a horrible woman, but women change.

I had that experience twice. A wonderful woman turned into someone I couldn't live with.

[thaibeachlovers]

7 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

The concept of marriage is well known and can be summed up in the following words

                                             " find someone  you hate and buy them a house",

most people change as they get older and what worked years ago might not work so well in the present .  People would not mate for life if they were to follow their natural instincts.   Rather they would  be inclined to stay together long enough to give the off spring a chance to survive., which some anthropologists estimate  would be around 7 years which kind of explains the "seven year itch"   Marriage has  been forced/ inflicted on people for perceived religious and societal reasons and is not really the natural way of life   Your romantic fantasy about people wanting to share everything and spend the rest of their lives together is straight out of a mills and boon novel

IMO marriage was invented waaaaay back when working class men worked long hours and didn't live long lives, and rich men marry for reasons other than love ( appearances, status, someone to pass the wealth on to etc ) and have totty on the side.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Mike how does a guy make it to age 50+ and still is single?

 

That doesn't say much about the man.

 

Everyone you know is single, perhaps your quality of friends is pretty low or there is something wrong with the lot of them to still be single after age 50

 

You are with a 36 year old woman for the same reason everyone else is here. Woman for the most part are desparate. Women accept fat, old men as a trade off for a better life where as per your claim men cannot accept old and fat in their own country

 

Ask yourself would you even be in Thailand, if Thai women hated ALL foreigners and you couldn't get a 36 year old?

 

Sure younger age, lesser means, lessor education, lessor everything

 

These women were not lonely before you came along

 

There are millions of men in the countries you mention have lives you could never dream of in Thailand

 

You are in Thailand because you are of limited financial means.

 

No more, no less.

 

You have mentioned 100 times you would live in the US if you had millions, but you don't

 

I seriously do not dream of your life in Thailand as a dream life.

 

I have 26 rai and a giant house, cars, etc. I see my life as a compromise to where my wife wants to live. I still have a wonderful place, all paid for, in the US. Pretty sure that life is more of a dream than here.  

You think every man wants to get married or have a relationship? I envy those that choose to remain single. Had I done so I'd be happy, wealthy and living the life in LOS with rentals.

My 2 long term relationships turned into emotional disasters that ruined me financially.

 

I'd live in LOS if I could, even if I couldn't get a woman of any age. At the very least, pretty girls are everywhere to look at while a pretty girl here is a rarity.

Somewhere along the line in this modern age, many western women abandoned femininity, and think being fat and unattractive is OK. It's even becoming a "crime" to say someone is fat.

The best thing about LOS that I liked, was the ( mostly ) absence of the PC <deleted> that IMO has ruined western society.

I'd trade a year in Thailand for all the years I have left to live not in Thailand, in a heartbeat.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

How do the tens of millions of other retired folks survive in the UK?

Health care in the UK is free to patients ( don't go on about paying taxes- many in the UK never work a day in their life, but still get free health care ), over 60 I got free public transport after 9 am, free prescriptions.

Many old people live in council accommodation.

If it comes down to it, pet food isn't expensive and people can live on it too.

 

Those with a house can sell it and live off the profit, and those with sense move to Thailand where the money gives them a far better lifestyle for a lot longer.

[Sparktrader]

19 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You think every man wants to get married or have a relationship? I envy those that choose to remain single. Had I done so I'd be happy, wealthy and living the life in LOS with rentals.

My 2 long term relationships turned into emotional disasters that ruined me financially.

 

I'd live in LOS if I could, even if I couldn't get a woman of any age. At the very least, pretty girls are everywhere to look at while a pretty girl here is a rarity.

Somewhere along the line in this modern age, many western women abandoned femininity, and think being fat and unattractive is OK. It's even becoming a "crime" to say someone is fat.

The best thing about LOS that I liked, was the ( mostly ) absence of the PC <deleted> that IMO has ruined western society.

I'd trade a year in Thailand for all the years I have left to live not in Thailand, in a heartbeat.

Going back soon, first time in 4 years!

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, n00dle said:

Oh yeah, and im sure the OP is a total fokkin prize.

Gentlemen of Thaivisa. I have seen you and the women you settle down with and call wife.

 

Cut the <deleted>, any of you would be lucky to be with any of those women in the picture. If not send them my way.

Seriously? I'd rather be celibate my entire life than get involved with any of them, but then I require a certain degree of physical attractiveness to be interested.

[thaibeachlovers]

15 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

About four years ago, I happened to meet some academic muckety-muck, some Australian, an Anthropologist, renowned in his field of study, published articles not few, and many of which centered on his findings and research of religions in these parts, throughout SE Asia. . 

 

I really don't know why I mention this meeting, except that I recall he wasn't a tourist in Thailand. 

 

He was an Australian with an enviously upper-crust British accent. I guess there are a few. 

 

His excuse for his accent, he explained, was his parent's arrival to Australia when he was very young. Apparently, throughout his childhood and adulthood, he had worked hard to hang onto his British sound while down under. 

 

Why do I mention this meeting, here? 

 

Maybe it's because I don't meet many interesting people here who are here, almost exclusively, as a result of their decades-long love of Asia. 

 

I know that there are intelligent, well-educated men on TV, and I know of a specific few myself, but topics such as this, no matter how entertaining, cause me to think that I have seen the last of the few. 

 

I did not come to Asia to find a wife. Although, in retrospect, at the time, maybe I should have come to find two MORE wives, in order to have three, the perfect number for stability. 

 

But these days, it just saddens me to see fine young men arriving in places in SE Asia with, seemingly, only two things on their minds; either hooking up, or finding a wife, most probably in the mistaken belief that what they were unable to obtain in their home countries will somehow, maybe miraculously, fall into their laps in Pattaya...such absurdity. 

 

The thing is, I chose to travel to Asia soon after being married to a Jiangxi beauty of wealth and means and intelligence. One of her brothers was a PhD candidate at a top Ivy League school, not Harvard, luckily. After the revolution, her family set up a newspaper in Hong Kong, a place many here from Scotland know something about. Those were the days when Chinese peasants would carry lichee on bamboo poles, 擔杖, across the border and then board the train to Kowloon. A majority of the lichee carried by these peasants were worm ridden, unsurprisingly, most likely by Commie worms. The Commies, back in the day, knew not much about pesticides. Too busy killing sparrows, I guess. 

 

OK, where was I?  Oh, yeah, I think I must have gotten sidetracked by the worms....the worms coming from over the border, maybe for the sole purpose of hooking up. 

 

You know, I have heard it often said by no less of a personage than Dickens' Tiny Tim that, according to him, Americans understand neither sarcasm nor irony. According to this Dickens character, it is only the Australians who are able to read books such as Candide, books full of satire and abstruse references to ironical things. Maybe, after years behind the microphone, radio goes to one's head. Just ask the loudmouth behind infowars. 

 

Poor Tiny Tim, while having his Christmas goose, neglected to read Mark Twain. Do they even have rivers so great as the Mississippi, in Australia? But, as Tim maintains, Americans, while captaining a riverboat down the great river, never learned about irony. 

 

And so, continuing to reply to this topic, stimulating as it is, another reason guys might not come here is because it's just not so easy, and not as easy as one might be led to believe, watching YT videos produced mainly by idiots who, while they understand the social media technology, so superficially, still know almost nothing about living in Asia. 

 

I am the first to admit that I know too little about life in Asia. 

 

I usually don't say much. 

 

Mostly, I prefer to keep my trap shut, just listening to others better educated about life in these parts. 

 

I did not come here for the women. If I can't have three under my roof, one or two is not enough for stability and harmony. 

 

And I don't know anyone here wealthy enough to support three women, especially given present-day inflation. 

 

There is another Chinese (maybe from Taiwan) "saying" which goes.. A man should have three wives, an American wife, a Japanese wife, and a Chinese wife. 

 

The American wife can provide a big house. 

The Chinese wife can provide good food. 

The Japanese wife, she can provide the rest. 

 

Regards,

G. 

 

 

I did go to LOS for the women, and lived life as good as it gets for a western guy of modest means that wants to wake up with an attractive woman beside him occasionally.

That life could have continued on till this day had I not fallen down the rabbit hole of stupidity and got married to one of them.

That's what happens when one thinks it is possible to have cake and eat it too.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Poppycock.

 

You are responsible to protect yourself

The people out to transfer my money to themselves are far more clever than I when it comes to things financial, which is why I trust no financial institution of any sort, make no "investments", and pay cash for everything as much as possible.

Though how long it is before the cashless society becomes reality is unknown, I hope I am long gone before it does so, as we're all <deleted> when that atrocity happens, as likely it will.

Edited July 30, 2022 by thaibeachlovers

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

I have 26 rai and a giant house, cars, etc. I see my life as a compromise to where my wife wants to live. I still have a wonderful place, all paid for, in the US. Pretty sure that life is more of a dream than here.  

Assuming by "rai" it's in Thailand, you don't own any land, your wife does, and as for a house or any other possessions, you only have them as long as she allows you to do so ( unless you have Thai citizenship ).

 

We are aliens in Thailand, and unless one of the few that has become a Thai citizen, we only have anything till we don't.

[BonMot]

Because they are so broke they can't even save a buffer of 800k let alone health care savings plus 5000£ for cushion and live off the pension.

 

That and an ample supply of cheap alcohol and free porn.

[Iamfalang]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I mention that I am a student of history. With a particular interest in ancient Sukhothai architecture. Especially late 13th century temples built during the reign of King Ram Kamhaeng, and the fascinating Chedi designs. 

If I heard that, I would wonder why someone is trying so hard to convince me he doesn't love Pattaya more than life itself.   Nobody needs to explain in that detail to anyone who is possibly a stranger.

 

Hi guy, where are you going?   Oh, me??  I'm going to study the La Na Kingdom's involvement in rice taxation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    How long have you been in Thailand?  11 years.   Oh, get an answer?   Is your answer in that massage shop you are going into?    I'm meeting with my professor!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BritManToo]

11 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Mike how does a guy make it to age 50+ and still is single?

Divorce.

[jerrymahoney]

6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I mention that I am a student of history. With a particular interest in ancient Sukhothai architecture. Especially late 13th century temples built during the reign of King Ram Kamhaeng, and the fascinating Chedi designs. 

 

Wow. Talk about a look of utter confusion on their faces! 

Yes. And I used to tell folks, both here and back in USA, that I moved to Thailand as a skilled volunteer  (with US federal govt. certification) at a large Thai NGO under Royal Patronage of the (then) H.M. King of Thailand working with Thai disadvantaged populations.

 

Except, for me, that was true.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Assuming by "rai" it's in Thailand, you don't own any land, your wife does, and as for a house or any other possessions, you only have them as long as she allows you to do so ( unless you have Thai citizenship ).

Pretty much the same rules for any married man outside the Muslim world.

[BritManToo]

12 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

How do the tens of millions of other retired folks survive in the UK?

I used to visit the Friday 'drop-in' for pensioners in my previous UK town (part of my job).

These old folk were living lonely desperate lives, many had large expensive houses, but essentially lived in a single room without enough money to heat the rest of the home. Every winter some of them would die through lack of food or lack of heat. Couldn't afford transport, couldn't afford repairs to their house, a struggle to walk to the local shops to buy food then carry it home.

 

It was really sad to see so many ending their lives like that.

You sound like you have no idea of the lives of many ordinary western pensioners.

Edited July 31, 2022 by BritManToo

[1FinickyOne]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

A wonderful woman turned into someone I couldn't live with.

Good thing you had nothing to do with that change?? 

 

Severe disappointment can make people angry and bitter... 

[1FinickyOne]

28 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

It was really sad to see so many ending their lives like that.

Yes, very sad indeed.. what i found sad was on my brief 2 week trips back to USA to visit my parents was the Sunday morning breakfast where the guy was sitting looking dazed and not having a clue as to what to do w/his 2 young kids on his visitation day. 

 

Or even worse, sitting hopelessly lonely by himself. 

 

The West can be cold in many ways. 

[1FinickyOne]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If it comes down to it, pet food isn't expensive and people can live on it too.

 

oh my!! I think most people have different standards... Add some flea and tick spray and you have quite a lifestyle. 

Edited July 31, 2022 by 1FinickyOne

[Lucky Bones]

7 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Alot of my single friends back in the US are smart, charming, successful and wonderful men. Here, I have a few single friends who simply cannot afford to have a woman in their lives.

 

But wow. Alot of profoundly ugly judgment, in one post. Perhaps the "most judgmental post of the week"? 

 

No need to address any specifics when a man has his mind set on tearing down the lifestyle of any other, with a very limited amount of information to work with, and alot of preconceived nations. 

 

I tend to be more a life and let live sort. 

Wow! Looks like the wannabe King of Issan stirred some angry powder into his cornflakes or whatever.

His opinion must be correct and must be obeyed.

If he is the "King", pity his subjects.

Sheeeessshhh????????.

[Lucky Bones]

13 hours ago, KIngsofisaan said:

Mike how does a guy make it to age 50+ and still is single?

 

That doesn't say much about the man.

 

Everyone you know is single, perhaps your quality of friends is pretty low or there is something wrong with the lot of them to still be single after age 50

 

You are with a 36 year old woman for the same reason everyone else is here. Woman for the most part are desparate. Women accept fat, old men as a trade off for a better life where as per your claim men cannot accept old and fat in their own country

 

Ask yourself would you even be in Thailand, if Thai women hated ALL foreigners and you couldn't get a 36 year old?

 

Sure younger age, lesser means, lessor education, lessor everything

 

These women were not lonely before you came along

 

There are millions of men in the countries you mention have lives you could never dream of in Thailand

 

You are in Thailand because you are of limited financial means.

 

No more, no less.

 

You have mentioned 100 times you would live in the US if you had millions, but you don't

 

I seriously do not dream of your life in Thailand as a dream life.

 

I have 26 rai and a giant house, cars, etc. I see my life as a compromise to where my wife wants to live. I still have a wonderful place, all paid for, in the US. Pretty sure that life is more of a dream than here.  

So, after all that self opinionated jibber you have 26 rai, a house and some cars.

Woopy-Doo for you.

Enjoy your terribly materialistic world.

[Lucky Bones]

"Wannabe King", If you have a wife I am guessing she just follows your instructions to get a salary each month.

[Lucky Bones]

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

Your wife have 26 Rai, giant house, do not forget that

Important to have 26 rai, house and cars. Then you can be "Wannabe King".

[freedomnow]

Plenty better places than Thailand 2022 - it is not the be all and end all.

And no I'm not going to list alternatives, but it's edge is going fast.

 

It's a big world with far easier and friendlier immigration hoops to hop through.

 

I'd not be here, were it not for my g/f of 10 years.

 

I'd be off elsewhere tomorrow.

[proton]

Where else can you get 6 hours of free entertainment (actual cost at least 400k) at your local train station, yesterday and today. Where else would the toilets be inaccessible in the gleaming new edifice resulting in people having to stumble over 4 rail tracks and down a 4 foot wall to get to one over the road at the old station. Thailands unending quirkiness is always engaging, no chairs at the concert either!

Morlam band Boy Sivachai with singer Ann Oradee

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kwasaki]

10 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I mention that I am a student of history. With a particular interest in ancient Sukhothai architecture. Especially late 13th century temples built during the reign of King Ram Kamhaeng, and the fascinating Chedi designs. 

 

Wow. Talk about a look of utter confusion on their faces! 

Actually I was interested in Thai history that's how I ended up living in Old city there are older temples and buildings too from when the Cambodians occupied the area. ????

[Kwasaki]

2 hours ago, Lucky Bones said:

"Wannabe King", If you have a wife I am guessing she just follows your instructions to get a salary each month.

Doesn't sound like you have heard of a meaningful relationship.

[Hummin]

15 hours ago, 2009 said:

You can take the blue pill and stay in the land where strip clubs actually have nudity, pole dancing, and skillful lap dances.

 

Or you can take the red pill and sit in a moldy-smelling gogo bar with women in bikinis awkwardly and unenthusiastically shuffling on stage holding on to a pole which apparently serves no purpose while staring at you in an attempt to make you so uncomfortable that you'll buy them a drink just to make it stop.

Meaning of life, Amen