Truss surges ahead, wins key backers in U.K. leadership race for prime minister

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

Ah, the truth hurts.  The UK is suffering. Listen to the debate between Sunak and Truss. They tell it as it is.

Back to the Single Market within 5 years.

Inevitable.

To be realistic, the Whole World is suffering at the moment . 

Its a World thing, rather than a U.K thing 

[bannork]

7 minutes ago, Loiner said:

They’ll still be bitter lefty Remainers long after the next Tory government is returned again.

Loiner rhymes with Joiner.

In Thai spoken language, r and l are interchangeable.

Deep down you're a rejoiner.

 

 

[bannork]

2 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

 

Dream on!   ????????

Within 5 years 

[baboon]

38 minutes ago, bannork said:

Within 5 years 

Dammit I hope you are correct, but I just don't see how.

Starmer's Labour Party seem scared of their own shadows.

The Bluekip WANT permanent acrimony with the EU. They need something to blame for their failures and lies.

 

Me, I think I shall stay cosy with the Scots. At least they have a chance to wrench themselves away from this demented Kingdom and won't forget who their mates are...

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10 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

To be realistic, the Whole World is suffering at the moment . 

Its a World thing, rather than a U.K thing 

So you think the Tories are being blamed unfairly by the UK public for the current economic problems?

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[transam]

Thought this thread was about Liz Truss, not socialists dribbling over Boris's departure......????

 

But, I suppose they have nothing to rave about on their own side, so.......????

But x2, for me Liz getting the top job, and socialists here hoping she gets the top job, it all seems we are all happy, great....????

 

Now how about discussing the two PM finalists, not a chap who is moving on, eh.....???? 

[Mavideol]

17 hours ago, transam said:

"We can trust", well give us a clue as to who......????

"We Can TRUSS"  555

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

So you think the Tories are being blamed unfairly by the UK public for the current economic problems?

The current problems in the U.K have been caused by Covid and Russia (and French  immigration staff , to  small degree) , and Tories are not primarily responsible to those things , although one could suggest that the response to Covid, (like lock-downs and restrictions ) have indeed been an unpopular Tory policy

[transam]

57 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

"We Can TRUSS"  555

Absolutely, and if you are honest, would you trust anyone on the opposite benches............?    

[Mavideol]

56 minutes ago, transam said:

Absolutely, and if you are honest, would you trust anyone on the opposite benches............?    

yahahaha  for sure Boris  555

[transam]

12 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

yahahaha  for sure Boris  555

Is there someone on the opposite benches called Boris....?  ????

[Mavideol]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

Is there someone on the opposite benches called Boris....?  ????

it all depends from which angle you look...   555

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[transam]

6 minutes ago, Mavideol said:

it all depends from which angle you look...   555

Undoubtably, there are some odd looking characters over there for sure, and that's putting footwear to one side.......

[transam]

Any more news on our lady who is not for turning...  ????

 

Or from Rushi, the bloke who is for turning to get the job.......????

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

The current problems in the U.K have been caused by Covid and Russia (and French  immigration staff , to  small degree) , and Tories are not primarily responsible to those things , although one could suggest that the response to Covid, (like lock-downs and restrictions ) have indeed been an unpopular Tory policy

Poverty was a problem in the UK before the pandemic.

 

The NHS and ambulance services were failing before the Pandemic.

 

The problems finding a dentist predates the pandemic.

 

The housing crisis predates the Pandemic.

 

The failure of the Police to respond to call outs predates the Pandemic.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Poverty was a problem in the UK before the pandemic.

 

The NHS and ambulance services were failing before the Pandemic.

 

The problems finding a dentist predates the pandemic.

 

The housing crisis predates the Pandemic.

 

The failure of the Police to respond to call outs predates the Pandemic.

 

 

All those problems pre date the Conservative Premiership as well .

Poor people always ask for more  , as soon as you give them something, they want something else .

   Many of those poor people wouldn't want the Police to attend to calls quickly  , as its usually the other  people calling the Police about them

[Bluespunk]

27 minutes ago, transam said:

Any more news on our lady who is not for turning...  ????

 

Or from Rushi, the bloke who is for turning to get the job.......????

As you ask truss issued a list of cost cutting measures yesterday but was forced into a turn around, retract and then reissue them as her numbers were incorrect. 
 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/01/liz-truss-plan-to-cut-11bn-in-whitehall-waste-ludicrous?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

“the Conservative leadership hopeful’s campaign, which received another boost with the backing of Penny Mordaunt on Monday, was forced to redo some of its sums within hours of releasing a series of proposals to reduce the cost of the civil service.”

 

#gotruss

[Bluespunk]

15 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Many of those poor people wouldn't want the Police to attend to calls quickly  , as its usually the other  people calling the Police about them

Really?

 

Can you post a link to a credible site that supports that claim please. 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Bluespunk
Missing word typo

[Mac Mickmanus]

Some of Trusses policies 

 

 

"These included paying staff less outside London and cutting annual holiday allowance. Truss also promised to “tackle left-wing groupthink in government” and to scrap diversity and inclusion jobs, saying they “distract from delivering on the British people’s priorities”."

 

 

   You wanted Boris gone....................be careful what you wish for 

[Chomper Higgot]

21 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

All those problems pre date the Conservative Premiership as well .

Poor people always ask for more  , as soon as you give them something, they want something else .

   Many of those poor people wouldn't want the Police to attend to calls quickly  , as its usually the other  people calling the Police about them

Everyone of those problems have been made worse by twelve years of Tory mismanagement, including the slashing of over 20,000 police jobs.

 

Your derogatory remarks here about poor people are insight into your mindset. 

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Some of Trusses policies 

 

 

"These included paying staff less outside London and cutting annual holiday allowance. Truss also promised to “tackle left-wing groupthink in government” and to scrap diversity and inclusion jobs, saying they “distract from delivering on the British people’s priorities”."

 

 

   You wanted Boris gone....................be careful what you wish for 

Tories are gonna Tory.

[Mac Mickmanus]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Everyone of those problems have been made worse by twelve years of Tory mismanagement, including the slashing of over 20,000 police jobs.

 

The Tories are actually recruiting 20 000 new Police officers . That was one of Boris's policies , recruiting 20 000 more Police officers 

 

 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-nearly-half-way-to-recruiting-20000-more-officers

 

The government is nearly half-way to delivering on its pledge to put 20,000 additional officers on the streets by 2023, figures released today (28 July) show.

An extra 9,814 police officers have been recruited across all 43 police forces in England and Wales, where they are already having an impact in tackling crime and keeping communities safe.

[Bluespunk]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Some of Trusses policies 

 

 

"These included paying staff less outside London and cutting annual holiday allowance. Truss also promised to “tackle left-wing groupthink in government” and to scrap diversity and inclusion jobs, saying they “distract from delivering on the British people’s priorities”."

 

 

   You wanted Boris gone....................be careful what you wish for 

From the same article (which for some reading you didn’t refer or post a link to)

 

”The most significant element of the plan is the introduction of regional pay boards, which she said would “tailor pay to the cost of living where civil servants actually work”. She claimed this would save up to £8.8bn.

 

Experts questioned whether the savings were feasible. Alex Thomas, programme director at the Institute for Government, said: “If you’re just talking about civil servants, that is ludicrous; it doesn’t add up at all. The whole [annual] civil service pay bill is around £9bn.”

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/01/liz-truss-plan-to-cut-11bn-in-whitehall-waste-ludicrous?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

The Tories are actually recruiting 20 000 new Police officers . That was one of Boris's policies , recruiting 20 000 more Police officers 

 

 https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-nearly-half-way-to-recruiting-20000-more-officers

 

The government is nearly half-way to delivering on its pledge to put 20,000 additional officers on the streets by 2023, figures released today (28 July) show.

An extra 9,814 police officers have been recruited across all 43 police forces in England and Wales, where they are already having an impact in tackling crime and keeping communities safe.

The 20,000 police officers the Government claims to be recruiting does not replace the more than 20,000 Theresa May fired, on top of which are thousands more who left in the interim through retirement and resignations.

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

From the same article (which for some reading you didn’t refer or post a link to)

 

 

As you has already just posted a link to the report where the paragraph originated from , I didn't think that it would be necessary to post the link again 

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

As you has already just posted a link to the report where the paragraph originated from , I didn't think that it would be necessary to post the link again 

Ah huh… ???? 

[Bluespunk]

Here’s another quote from the article on truss’ turnabout. It shows here complete lack of a grasp on the facts and actions taken by a cabinet she was a member of. She is a dream candidate for the opposition. 

 

“She also said she would ban civil service trades union representatives from using taxpayer-funded “facility time” to plan strike action.

 

Truss’s team said this would save up to £137m a year but unions insist there are already firm restrictions on how facility time can be used. Oliver Dowden, then a Cabinet Office minister, told MPs in 2019 that facility time accounted for 0.06% of the public sector wage bill, and the government was already reducing it.“

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/01/liz-truss-plan-to-cut-11bn-in-whitehall-waste-ludicrous?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

#gotruss

Edited August 2, 2022 by Bluespunk

[Rimmer]

A flame has been removed

[transam]

25 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The 20,000 police officers the Government claims to be recruiting does not replace the more than 20,000 Theresa May fired, on top of which are thousands more who left in the interim through retirement and resignations.

 

 

So Boris is/was rectifying T.May cuts, and you are complaining...............????........????

[JonnyF]

22 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Yeah right

 

#gotruss

Never any disagreements in the opposition of course. Noooooooo......

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/01/bt-and-openreach-strike-lisa-nandy-visits-picket-line-in-wigan