FBI found more than 11,000 government records at Trump's Florida home

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

So lock him up. Oh wait, no lets make this the news headline approaching the mid terms. And then all this will just fizzle away.

Why are you and the other Trump supporters so eager to end this investigation ASAP?  Afraid of what else might be found?

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

He is allowed to keep some of the documents . 

Really?  Do explain what documents that are clearly the property of the US government Trump is allowed to keep.  Be sure to explain why he can keep them in spite of repeated requests to return them, and use credible sources.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I suppose it depends on what documents they are .

The FBI are currently looking at the papers to see whether its legal or not .

   The FBI and Trump have been discussing the documents with each other for over six months , so, they couldn't have been that important 

Or the FBI and Justice Department were desperately trying to spare the office of the Presidency the embarrassment of having to raid Trump's home and investigate him for serious crimes.  Unfortunately Trump is too much of a buffoon to allow such a reasonable outcome.

[EVENKEEL]

35 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Why are you and the other Trump supporters so eager to end this investigation ASAP?  Afraid of what else might be found?

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues. 

 

 

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues.

Done that, got the T shirt. Passed the infra and climate change bill, actually sent lots of weapons to Ukraine, addressed the high cost of gasoline, restarted the US involvement in the IPCC, fought the supreme court on climate change and called out violent seditionists. There's more but you'd get bored reading them.

[Bkk Brian]

5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues. 

This OP is about Trump who was found with documents he should not have had, documents that relate to National Security and were in his home where others had access. Its an important issue but you knew that as you typed your post anyway

[heybruce]

14 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues.

So Republicans should be happy to see Trump in prison and no longer making headlines. 

[xylophone]

16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But he won’t, he needs to feed his own delusions and the delusions of his followers.

 

The delusions run deep and strong in the tiny minds of the MAGA cult, and just a couple of days ago Marjorie Taylor Green was spouting off at the gathering of the deluded in Philadelphia, that "the election was stolen" and that "trump won the last election".

 

She needs to be quietened or locked up for her comments because they cause/foment civil unrest, especially amongst the cult followers, and of course it gives a reason for QAnon, Proud Boys and others to continue their vile behaviour.
 

[candide]

20 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues. 

 

 

It's Trump who first publicized it, trying to score political points.

[LosLobo]

21 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues. 

 

 

Trump is only on daily news over the Mar-a-largo affair because he chose to be.

 

The DOJ would have kept quiet about the incident until he was charged but it was Trump who wanted this out in the open so he could be tried by public opinion and not  by a jury of his peers.

The other investigations into Trump are all his own doing. Few want to give more oxygen to Trump than he deserves.

 

 

 

 

 

[EVENKEEL]

5 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Trump is only on daily news over the Mar-a-largo affair because he chose to be.

 

The DOJ would have kept quiet about the incident until he was charged but it was Trump who wanted this out in the open so he could be tried by public opinion and not  by a jury of his peers.

The other investigations into Trump are all his own doing. Few want to give more oxygen to Trump than he deserves.

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing but an opinion, just like my post.

[LosLobo]

18 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Nothing but an opinion, just like my post.

But there's the rub, your posts are from an alternate reality. Mine are based on intelligent critical thinking and informed opinion.

 

Edited September 5, 2022 by LosLobo

[Walker88]

3 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues. 

 

 

Important issue like job growth that dwarfs anything under 45?

 

Like finally getting Covid under control?

 

Like reducing the deficit by $350 billion in FY2021 and likely $1.7 trillion in FY2022?

 

Like an infrastructure bill that finally will begin to fix roads, bridges, the grid, etc.

 

Like the US being respected in the world again?

 

The magats have no platform and no ideology, other than worship of their messiah. They have empty slogans coupled with bizarre conspiracy theories. They are a cult, nothing less.

[Eric Loh]

4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

Without Trump on daily news, the dems might actually have to answer to the American people about important issues. 

 

 

Without Trump on his daily self gratification rant, the GOP may actually stand a chance mid-term. 

[EVENKEEL]

6 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Important issue like job growth that dwarfs anything under 45?

 

Like finally getting Covid under control?

 

Like reducing the deficit by $350 billion in FY2021 and likely $1.7 trillion in FY2022?

 

Like an infrastructure bill that finally will begin to fix roads, bridges, the grid, etc.

 

Like the US being respected in the world again?

 

The magats have no platform and no ideology, other than worship of their messiah. They have empty slogans coupled with bizarre conspiracy theories. They are a cult, nothing less.

Not going to follow you down the rabbit hole of off topic nonsense.

[Mac Mickmanus]

10 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Without Trump on his daily self gratification rant, the GOP may actually stand a chance mid-term. 

Trouble is Biden doesn't seem to say much or do anything and there's nothing to talk about .

   There is quite a void with Biden as POTUS and Trumps previous tenure is still the topic of discussion .

   We all eagerly awaited Trump next tweet and dissect his every word .

   Biden just doesn't provide the content 

[Walker88]

22 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Trouble is Biden doesn't seem to say much or do anything and there's nothing to talk about .

   There is quite a void with Biden as POTUS and Trumps previous tenure is still the topic of discussion .

   We all eagerly awaited Trump next tweet and dissect his every word .

   Biden just doesn't provide the content 

Biden just gets the job done. He doesn't live on Twitter, Fox or the golf course like 45 did. He actually puts in time doing the job he was elected to do.

 

Funny how that works. Things actually get done. Slowly people are beginning to realize that Biden has accomplished more in his term so far than almost any POTUS. There is a tendency to be negative about everything, but Biden did not cause inflation. The easy money policy since 2008, the wild profligate spending of the 45 years (he juiced the National Debt by 37% or $7,000,000,000,000), pent up demand released with the end of Covid, and putin's invasion of Ukraine all set inflation in motion. It just manifested itself in 2022, but the buildup was years in the making.

 

Funny also how nobody even knows any 45 policy, because all he ever had were empty slogans. He bankrupted 6 casinos and a hotel, and had numerous other failed businesses. Only his inheritance and co-signed loans from his father made him a 'businessman'. A guy that can bankrupt casinos is hardly capable or directing a $20 something trillion economy. 45 inherited low UE and growing GDP from Obama, then handed Biden rising UE and negative GDP. He's exactly what his father always called him: a loser.

[DezLez]

36 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

We all eagerly awaited Trump next tweet and dissect his every word .

That comment should either be in the joke section or re-written; "We, the Trumpets, all eagerly awaited Trump's next tweet and dissect his every word while the sane citizens of the USA squirmed in embarrassment!" .

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, DezLez said:

That comment should either be in the joke section or re-written; "We, the Trumpets, all eagerly awaited Trump's next tweet and dissect his every word while the sane citizens of the USA squirmed in embarrassment!" .

No, even the anti Trumpers hung on his every word and eagerly awaited his next tweet or speech . 

   Checking for any typos or spelling mistakes and looking for an angle to show what he said was incorrect

[candide]

4 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No, even the anti Trumpers hung on his every word and eagerly awaited his next tweet or speech . 

   Checking for any typos or spelling mistakes and looking for an angle to show what he said was incorrect

More like looking for a good laugh! Trump can be quite entertaining. ????

[Bkk Brian]

Just now, candide said:

More like looking for a good laugh! Trump can be quite entertaining. ????

Agreed, its pure comedy but sad at the same time that an ex president can be so delusional, unfortunately he was the same when he was president

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8 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No, even the anti Trumpers hung on his every word and eagerly awaited his next tweet or speech . 

   Checking for any typos or spelling mistakes and looking for an angle to show what he said was incorrect

Oh really. What typo was it that is responsible for the misapprehension that  Trump accused John Fetterman of taking amphetamines, fentanyl, heroin, and cocaine?

What typo was it that led to the misimpression that Trump called the Justice Dept and the FBI "vicious monsters"?

 

[Walker88]

When you're in the cult, you can't think clearly. Cult members would say, "I'll drink that Kool-Aid Reverend Jones !"

 

It's clear even here in comments. Posters will grasp every lie 45 tells and promote it as truth. The path from when the first article about this appeared simply follows each new lie 45 spouted, and the cult speaks in unison, chanting the latest lie.

 

45 could tell two diametrically opposed lies in the same sentence, and his cult will believe both.  They're that captured.

 

"Planted"

 

"I declassified all of them"

 

"I gave them all back"

 

"They're mine !"

 

His ever-changing stories are just a way station until he can find someone to blame, whether that's a staffer or rudy or a family member.

 

In his latest rally of the Goobers in PA, 45 praised putin as brilliant (despite now losing twice as many soldier in Ukraine since March than the US lost in 15 years of Vietnam...plus losing billions in weaponry and now even losing territory) and praised xi for 'running china with an iron fist'.  Funny, xi would take that iron fist against someone who broke laws like 45, and have him arrested, tried, convicted and executed all in the same day.

 

Bottom Line: 45 had no right to the docs. Their mere presence is proof of guilt. He declassified nothing. He lied about handing back everything.

 

He must know DoJ is building a multi-pronged case against him that will likely include several felony charges. Plus, DoJ is likely building cases against anyone who helped 45 break those laws. Behind the scenes plea bargaining is likely happening now, and more facts are being gathered that will convict 45 and send him to the slammer where he belongs.

[Phoenix Rising]

1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

There is quite a void with Biden as POTUS and Trumps previous tenure is still the topic of discussion .

We all eagerly awaited Trump next tweet and dissect his every word .

No, we most certainly didn't. Only the cultists "eagerly awaited" trump's non-stop moronic brain dead drivel. The rest of us found it utterly boring and inane.

Edited September 5, 2022 by Phoenix Rising

[Phoenix Rising]

23 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No, even the anti Trumpers hung on his every word and eagerly awaited his next tweet or speech . 

   Checking for any typos or spelling mistakes and looking for an angle to show what he said was incorrect

There was very rarely a need to "look for an angle" as most of the time what he posted were outright lies a 5 y/o would be too embarrassed to tell.

[Phoenix Rising]

19 minutes ago, candide said:

More like looking for a good laugh! Trump can be quite entertaining. ????

He could be before being elected by a minority of the US population. Then he got his little fingers on the nuclear codes and that chilling thought stopped the laughter for me.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said:

No, we most certainly didn't. Only the cultists "eagerly awaited" trump's non-stop moronic dead drivel. Th rest of us found that utterly boring and inane.

I wasn't suggesting that you agreed with his tweets or supported them in any way what so ever , but you eagerly awaited what he would say next, just so you could be critical and point out what you feel was wrong .

   

[EVENKEEL]

45 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Biden just gets the job done. He doesn't live on Twitter, Fox or the golf course like 45 did. He actually puts in time doing the job he was elected to do.

 

Funny how that works. Things actually get done. Slowly people are beginning to realize that Biden has accomplished more in his term so far than almost any POTUS. There is a tendency to be negative about everything, but Biden did not cause inflation. The easy money policy since 2008, the wild profligate spending of the 45 years (he juiced the National Debt by 37% or $7,000,000,000,000), pent up demand released with the end of Covid, and putin's invasion of Ukraine all set inflation in motion. It just manifested itself in 2022, but the buildup was years in the making.

 

Funny also how nobody even knows any 45 policy, because all he ever had were empty slogans. He bankrupted 6 casinos and a hotel, and had numerous other failed businesses. Only his inheritance and co-signed loans from his father made him a 'businessman'. A guy that can bankrupt casinos is hardly capable or directing a $20 something trillion economy. 45 inherited low UE and growing GDP from Obama, then handed Biden rising UE and negative GDP. He's exactly what his father always called him: a loser.

Hate to spoil your rant but..........

https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/bidens-vacation-time-outstrips-trump-obama-bush-after-trip/

 

You really do go off topic often it seems.

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3 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Hate to spoil your rant but..........

https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/bidens-vacation-time-outstrips-trump-obama-bush-after-trip/

 

You really do go off topic often it seems.

Well, that works only if you count time at the Whitehouse as actual working time. I doubt that Biden spends his morning in a bathrobe watching cable news

Trump reportedly watches up to 7 hours of cable news every morning before getting to the Oval Office as late as noon

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is-watching-7-hours-of-tv-and-getting-to-the-oval-office-at-noon-report-2020-4

[Phoenix Rising]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

I wasn't suggesting that you agreed with his tweets or supported them in any way what so ever , but you eagerly awaited what he would say next, just so you could be critical and point out what you feel was wrong .

   

I'm not sure how to express myself so that you might understand so I'll repeat what I wrote earlier;

 

"No, we most certainly didn't. Only the cultists "eagerly awaited" trump's non-stop moronic brain dead drivel. The rest of us found it utterly boring and inane."

 

This means his daily dose of BS was not "eagerly awaited", it was in fact dreaded because every time he opened hi piehole or posted something he reminded us that there was a total narcissist with very limited mental capacities in the WH, and anyone who found that entertaining needs help.