British family makes desperate plea for grandfather seriously ill in Thailand

[Andrew65]

  On 10/4/2022 at 4:46 AM, roo860 said:

Why should he be cashed up, any idea what footballers wages were when he was playing for these clubs or how many years he played for them, when he finished playing? I haven't, so over to you.

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This guy played in the days before players earned mega-bucks. 

[riverhigh]

  On 10/4/2022 at 2:47 AM, South said:

Whilst I have some sympathy for the guy and I hope he quickly recovers, these types of stories are becoming too frequent.

Bottom line, if you don't have the funds (to cover your medical/emergency bills), you shouldn't be here.

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Agree. But even more so in this case.  My understanding is that Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD) and emphysema doesn't happen ovenight. I have freinds who suffer from similar conditions and refuse to change their lifestyle and get help. 77 years old, fixed in his own world, wants to live in warm climate, doesn't want to change, hoping negative things will just go away by themselves. I have more sympathy for his daughter. Just my opinion and I could be 100% wrong in this matter.

[heybuz]

  On 10/4/2022 at 6:13 AM, Card said:

Is COPD caused by smoking?

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I have mild COPD my specialist said to get COPD all you need is a pair of lungs, car fumes , smoking,in my case concrete dust from dry sawing concrete but you can get it from all types of pollutants.

[Jimbo 12345]

  On 10/4/2022 at 3:41 AM, BritManToo said:

I would disagree, I don't expect (nor desire) to live to age 77.

But I would like to choose where I die, which is not in a UK nursing home.

No need to run up expensive medical bills, accept death when it comes.

 

I don't 'self-insure' or have any insurance, and don't intend to pay for long term medical care. It's not required, at 66 I've already had my life.

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You don't want to live to that age, ???? 77, ???  OMG,  so if you are a healthy 76 year old,  you wa t to die very soon,   how pathetic 

[SymS]

  On 10/4/2022 at 6:14 AM, arick said:

If he was French or Dutch he would be covered. Poor Brits 

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I'm French and I would not be covered as I never paid into the system, except for four months when I was a student working for summer jobs.

[sead]

It's even more sad that after all millions he made he couldn't afford a good insurance. Or am I missing something 

[orchis]

  On 10/4/2022 at 6:14 AM, arick said:

If he was French or Dutch he would be covered. Poor Brits 

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not true.

[Inala]

  On 10/4/2022 at 3:41 AM, BritManToo said:

I would disagree, I don't expect (nor desire) to live to age 77.

But I would like to choose where I die, which is not in a UK nursing home.

No need to run up expensive medical bills, accept death when it comes.

 

I don't 'self-insure' or have any insurance, and don't intend to pay for long term medical care. It's not required, at 66 I've already had my life.

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BritMan Too, you're giving up too early. At 66, you could go another 20 years in reasonable condition.

[KhunLA]

  On 10/4/2022 at 2:13 AM, Tropicalevo said:

Even if he has insurance, eventually, the insurance companies stop paying out.

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Why I don't bother with any insurance ????

 

For GrandPa ... you make your bed, you lay in it ... nuff said

 

with health problems that WILL eventually need hospitalization, why would you go to Thailand, when you have the 'excellent' universal healthcare in the UK.  Well, at least it's almost free anyway.  Now you're a burden to your family, IF, they decide to pay the bill.

 

IF NOT ... another expat making things worse for those responsible folks that DO the right thing here.

If you can't afford to live in TH, STAY HOME ????

[Moti24]

  On 10/4/2022 at 3:41 AM, BritManToo said:

I would disagree, I don't expect (nor desire) to live to age 77.

But I would like to choose where I die, which is not in a UK nursing home.

No need to run up expensive medical bills, accept death when it comes.

 

I don't 'self-insure' or have any insurance, and don't intend to pay for long term medical care. It's not required, at 66 I've already had my life.

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I quite agree.  A UK nursing home is not for me either.

 

I'm a firm believer that on the day you are born, your exit date is already on the calendar.  The bit in the middle is just a hurdle race with plenty of fences to jump.

 

I have no complaints about my life, so whatever I have to look forward to, bring it on!

[Jingthing]

  On 10/4/2022 at 4:17 AM, VinnieK said:

Irrespective of this case, this is a serious issue in general 

As we approach  zero hour, insured or not, family here or not , a lot of things can go pear-shaped.

I know of a few who finally capitulated and went back.

The only wise option after a certain age...assuming you are capable of carrying it out of course (money, no mobility/senility issues etc)

Going home, that is..

Of course there is always the 'Buddhist monk' option..

It works for the Thais..????

 

 

 

 

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Not so sure.

 

 

[Inala]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:09 AM, riverhigh said:

Agree. But even more so in this case.  My understanding is that Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD) and emphysema doesn't happen ovenight. I have freinds who suffer from similar conditions and refuse to change their lifestyle and get help. 77 years old, fixed in his own world, wants to live in warm climate, doesn't want to change, hoping negative things will just go away by themselves. I have more sympathy for his daughter. Just my opinion and I could be 100% wrong in this matter.

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You got one thing right in that rant and that's that you're 100% wrong.... 

[NorthernRyland]

  On 10/4/2022 at 3:41 AM, BritManToo said:

accept death when it comes.

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Exactly. He's 77. Does he want us all to empty our savings for him so he can maybe survive another few years? Rest In Peace sir.

[Chris.B]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:26 AM, sead said:

It's even more sad that after all millions he made he couldn't afford a good insurance. Or am I missing something 

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Millions?? Where did he say that. ☹️

 

When you are 77 years old with COPD and Emphysema it is unlikely Medical Insurance with cover you. 

 

[crazykopite]

  On 10/4/2022 at 2:47 AM, South said:

Whilst I have some sympathy for the guy and I hope he quickly recovers, these types of stories are becoming too frequent.

Bottom line, if you don't have the funds (to cover your medical/emergency bills), you shouldn't be here.

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Once you hit over the 70 mark the insurance cover is out of reach for most of us I was quoted 200,000+ for a year and that was me having to pay the first 100,000 . I choose to keep a million baht just in case of a health emergency but if I’m honest and my health was so bad that I couldn’t enjoy life I’d take myself to bed with a bottle of Jamie’s and some tabs to help me climb the stairway to heaven . 

[proton]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:32 AM, Inala said:

BritMan Too, you're giving up too early. At 66, you could go another 20 years in reasonable condition.

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If he was unlucky, life, like sex is way over rated.

[Phuket Stan]

I suffer from COPD and yes you can get it from smoking and 2nd hand smoke so bars need to be given a wide miss.....Almost any dust will create problems and exhaust fumes are a special no no.....You need to live in an area where the air is quite clean

And BTW have you tried to buy insurance when you are over 75 and have COPD.....makes your eyes water if they even come back with a quote......many dont.....

A friend of mine always said insurance companies will only give you an umbrella on a fine day and its pretty close to the mark

 

[sambum]

  On 10/4/2022 at 3:46 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Should be cashed up. 

 

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Not all professional footballers get paid vast some of money like Messi or Ronaldo -  in the same way as not all professional musicians get paid as much as Taylor Swift or Kanye West (Had to Google them!) 

 

And Coventry City and Shrewsbury Town are unlikely to pay the same wages as Man United or Liverpool!

 

 

[crazykopite]

  On 10/4/2022 at 5:05 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

At least he's in a government hospital. That should help keep the bill down.

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Just had a friend pass 10 days in government hospital 450,000 baht 5 days ICU and 5 days public ward . This government gave hospitals a free run on what they charge on top of that there was an additional 40,000 baht on preparing the remains , mortury charges , delivery to the Temple , 2 nights prayers and then the burning 

[IvorBiggun2]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:35 AM, Chris.B said:

77 years old with COPD and Emphysema

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Who the hell...lives in Thailand with his conditions knowing that back in the UK he gets free treatment. COPD and Emphysema isn't something that suddenly jumps on you.  

[crazykopite]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:45 AM, sambum said:

Not all professional footballers get paid vast some of money like Messi or Ronaldo -  in the same way as not all professional musicians get paid as much as Taylor Swift or Kanye West (Had to Google them!) 

 

And Coventry City and Shrewsbury Town are unlikely to pay the same wages as Man United or Liverpool!

 

 

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He would of been lucky if he got £150 per week in the late 60s early 70s playing for Shrewsbury Town I bet there average gate was less than 10,000 supporters per week if that 

[sambum]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:26 AM, sead said:

It's even more sad that after all millions he made he couldn't afford a good insurance. Or am I missing something 

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"Millions"???

[CG1 Blue]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:09 AM, riverhigh said:

77 years old, fixed in his own world, wants to live in warm climate, doesn't want to change, hoping negative things will just go away by themselves. I have more sympathy for his daughter.

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You must have missed this bit: 

 

"He was "sorting out his affairs" in Thailand with a view to moving back in with his daughter."

 

[ChrisKC]

  On 10/4/2022 at 3:46 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Should be cashed up. 

 

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Playing for Northampton and Shrewsbury 40 or so years ago is not what I would call "cashed up" 'for life'

[IvorBiggun2]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:50 AM, crazykopite said:

Shrewsbury Town I bet there average gate was less than 10,000 supporters

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Me being from Coventry knows full well that us supporters used to queue to get out before the game was over they were that bad.     

[canerandagio]

  On 10/4/2022 at 3:09 AM, mania said:

I am guessing this is one of those "I self insure" guys who always post here

Or the type that always say well if something bad happens I can just fly home & get treated for free

 

Sorry 0 Sympathy????

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0 sympathy in front of death makes me wonder if you feel invincible and what you would do if your insurance company refused to pay and you couldn't pay anymore after a few months of intensive care.

You don't need to believe in karma to understand that it may hurt you back one day if you exclude sympathy from your sentiments so easily.

[sambum]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:46 AM, crazykopite said:

Just had a friend pass 10 days in government hospital 450,000 baht 5 days ICU and 5 days public ward . This government gave hospitals a free run on what they charge on top of that there was an additional 40,000 baht on preparing the remains , mortury charges , delivery to the Temple , 2 nights prayers and then the burning 

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Yes, and over the last few years they have got "worse" I was quoted a 12,000 baht fee for a simple procedure in a Government hospital, but by the time they added on all the "extras" it came to about 18,000 baht - only 1900 baht less than  Bumrungrad charge for the full package!

[Walker88]

  On 10/4/2022 at 7:43 AM, Phuket Stan said:

I suffer from COPD and yes you can get it from smoking and 2nd hand smoke so bars need to be given a wide miss.....Almost any dust will create problems and exhaust fumes are a special no no.....You need to live in an area where the air is quite clean

And BTW have you tried to buy insurance when you are over 75 and have COPD.....makes your eyes water if they even come back with a quote......many dont.....

A friend of mine always said insurance companies will only give you an umbrella on a fine day and its pretty close to the mark

 

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What do you expect? Insurance companies are not charities. If one is old and has something like COPD, the insurance actuaries have a pretty good idea what the hopeful policy holder is going to cost them, so they will charge accordingly.

 

What you are suggesting is a freebie. That others' will pay for you. In what universe does that make economic sense?

 

Anyone young and healthy reading this: NOW is the time to book a policy. You don't try to get fire insurance when your house is already burning.

 

Oh, and don't take up smoking. You are not immortal. Chances are it will kill you, and it will also make your last years not only come faster than they would otherwise, those last year will likely suck. Yes, your grandad smoked since he was 12 and lived to 98. One person also won the $1.4 billion Megamillions lottery.

 

It's never too early to accept responsibility for your own life and well being.

[French mate]

  On 10/4/2022 at 6:14 AM, arick said:

If he was French or Dutch he would be covered. Poor Brits 

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French are covered for free only in France and to some extended conditions in the UE.
Its true we can apply to a gouvernement international heal assurance that have is advantages and some fall back too. But its not free and for many like me the private sector offert better deal.

[ThaSalaPaul]

  On 10/4/2022 at 6:11 AM, BritManToo said:

I'm planning to die!

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What's penciled into your planner?