Popular Post placeholder Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said: Almost a full time job tackling the rampant misinformation here. Contrary to your extremely false claim, Joe Biden himself called Donald Trump an "illegitimate President". Most of the democrat power players did. You know this, I have pointed it out to you before on several occasions. "Former Vice President Joe Biden says he 'absolutely agrees' with comment that Trump is an 'illegitimate president' https://www.insider.com/joe-biden-says-he-agrees-trump-is-illegitimate-president-2019-5 First off, what is false in what I wrote? You've got nothing. As for your claim about Biden, how many times are you going to try on this piece of nonsense? And you can't even get the story straight. Someone in an audience asked Biden if he thought Trump was an illegitimate President. Biden agreed. It was never defined what was meant by illegitimate in this context. Illegitimately elected? Acting illegitimately? It's ridiculous to compare Biden's one-off remark to to the thousands of times Trump has claimed that the 2020 election was fraudulent. 6 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 50 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: I read the entire story in more than one media source... what is left out of every one of the left leaning media is that Trump was saying that fraud should be a reason in itself when it comes to all rules etc. to change those rules... he did not say throw out the constitution... that is not the issue. I can only assume you're now deliberatly telling lies, full quote from the OP “Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social and accused “Big Tech” of working closely with Democrats. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” Please link to any other post Trump has made to back up your claim, I'm up for a laugh this morning 3 1 7
Venom Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: CNN left out the whole context... Former President Trump called for the termination of the Constitution’s rules regarding elections to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election following the release of more detailed information about Twitter’s role in suppressing a story about Hunter Biden. “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump said in a Truth Social post. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” I'm surprised.
Popular Post kennw Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 Unfortunately for Trump when his "fraud" claims were tested in court none of his claims stood up. Modify the constitution? not for the reasons Trump wants but try "modernizing" the 2nd amendment, it could save a lot of lives. 6
Popular Post Srikcir Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 On 12/4/2022 at 7:30 AM, placeholder said: It's clear now that in no way does Donald Trump resemble a fascist wannabe dictator! MAGA!!! The Youtube channel MeidasTouch calls MAGA as "Make Attorneys Get Attorneys." Usually the case with Trump attorneys who must lie and mislead the courts to push Trump's undemocratic agendas. 1 3
Popular Post JustThisOnePostOnly Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 Nice to see this story picked up by AN but not the story about Twitter collusion. If you can't be fair in your coverage, why even have a World News section in the first place? Such irresponsibility only throws gasoline on the fire. 2 2
Popular Post pomchop Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, kennw said: Unfortunately for Trump when his "fraud" claims were tested in court none of his claims stood up. Modify the constitution? not for the reasons Trump wants but try "modernizing" the 2nd amendment, it could save a lot of lives. Election fraud evidence after 60+ court cases and several recounts done by republicans? ZERO credible evidence. Jan 6 coup attempt and election fraud claims? Dozens of witnesses mostly republicans. Thousands of documents. Hundreds of hours of HD video and audio showing in graphic detail the brutal attack on the capitol. Videos and audio of Trump fomenting a coup. More videos and audio of Trump pushing the big lie of election fraud two years after the election but still can't lay any proof or evidence on the table. More and more verdicts by juries who looked at evidence presented against rioters convicted. But yet trumpers continue the same old tired conspiracy theories of election fraud, the capitol riot was just a demonstration, poor little donnie is being picked on by the media, the supreme court, judges that he appointed continue to reject his BS because he has NO EVIDENCE. Just how much longer can someone keep spouting the same old accusations of fraud with NO EVICENCE and yet still have millions of grown adults send him money and scream fraud? Trump is truly amazing that he has conned so many otherwise sane people into accepting an accusation as fact with no EVIDENCE. It is really simple. If you have evidence then lay it out for the courts and all to see. Stop crying wolf when there is no wolf. 7 3
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ThailandRyan said: There are none so blind as those that can not see and none so deaf as those who do not listen. You have surely been drinking the kool-aid. His statements are made and published in many publications. Again here is what he said: learn to read https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-terminate-constitution-election-fraud-truth-social-1234641097/ “Do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote in a post on the social network Truth Social. He further alleged that “Big Tech” was working closely with Democrats. “Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” So did he not advocate for terminating the constitution in his statement, which is verbatim above, or is it misinformation? He believes it should be terminated in his view because he believes there was fraud in the election because stories were silenced. A story which had no bearing on the now president of the US, but on his son. Guess if your running for a position and someone wants to malign you by dragging in family then it's OK in your view..... Politics is an ugly business and Trump has played his part in silencing critics and then paying off others....Stormy Daniel's comes to mind. Rolling Stone, ahahaaa Com'on man you can do better than that 1 1 1
ThailandRyan Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, pomchop said: Election fraud evidence after 60+ court cases and several recounts done by republicans? ZERO credible evidence. Jan 6 coup attempt and election fraud claims? Dozens of witnesses mostly republicans. Thousands of documents. Hundreds of hours of HD video and audio showing in graphic detail the brutal attack on the capitol. Videos and audio of Trump fomenting a coup. More videos and audio of Trump pushing the big lie of election fraud two years after the election but still can't lay any proof or evidence on the table. More and more verdicts by juries who looked at evidence presented against rioters convicted. But yet trumpers continue the same old tired conspiracy theories of election fraud, the capitol riot was just a demonstration, poor little donnie is being picked on by the media, the supreme court, judges that he appointed continue to reject his BS because he has NO EVIDENCE. Just how much longer can someone keep spouting the same old accusations of fraud with NO EVICENCE and yet still have millions of grown adults send him money and scream fraud? Trump is truly amazing that he has conned so many otherwise sane people into accepting an accusation as fact with no EVIDENCE. It is really simple. If you have evidence then lay it out for the courts and all to see. Stop crying wolf when there is no wolf. In my view Trump is just Jefferson Davis reborn in his later years....
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Rolling Stone, ahahaaa Com'on man you can do better than that It's a non biased article my friend. 2 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: Nice to see this story picked up by AN but not the story about Twitter collusion. If you can't be fair in your coverage, why even have a World News section in the first place? Such irresponsibility only throws gasoline on the fire. Check the Elon Musk threads where the non event so called twitter collusion occurred, just to give you a hint, they actually prove there was no collusion 4
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Rolling Stone, ahahaaa Com'on man you can do better than that It's always the same isn't it when you don't like the message? 4 4
Popular Post traveller101 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: I do not know if the 2020 election was stolen or not - none of us do with any certainty - but we have the right to believe whatever we want, it wont change anything. Trump saying it was stolen is his opinion, but he cannot change anything. However, anything from CNN is not worth reading. Are CNN publishing all the details of all the democrats saying the 2016 election was stolen ? Nope. Want to publish Trumps comments, fine, but please level it up with democrats same claims from 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-election_lawsuits_related_to_the_2020_U.S._presidential_election 63 lawsuits - an overwhelming majority - have been dismissed by US courts all over the country incl. by courts stacked with Trump appointed justices. "None of us know with any certainty" - seriously? 7 3
Popular Post JustThisOnePostOnly Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Check the Elon Musk threads where the non event so called twitter collusion occurred, just to give you a hint, they actually prove there was no collusion No such thread appears to exist in World News. How about fixing the site so that people like me, who came to Thailand to get away from this <deleted>, aren't made to view it? The Topics sidebar is the root of all evil here. I want to know about visa stuff, advance notice of no-beer days, and maybe general news re: Thailand if it isn't too gory. 4
EVENKEEL Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: It's always the same isn't it when you don't like the message? Works both ways, 1 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: No such thread appears to exist in World News. How about fixing the site so that people like me, who came to Thailand to get away from this <deleted>, aren't made to view it? The Topics sidebar is the root of all evil here. I want to know about visa stuff, advance notice of no-beer days, and maybe general news re: Thailand if it isn't too gory. Yet you said: 25 minutes ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: Nice to see this story picked up by AN but not the story about Twitter collusion. If you can't be fair in your coverage, why even have a World News section in the first place? Such irresponsibility only throws gasoline on the fire. So now you're saying you want to know about visa stuff etc, I suggest you read topic headers before clicking on them in future as you've just gone way off topic https://aseannow.com/forum/18-thailand-news/ 2 2
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, EVENKEEL said: Works both ways, No. I read every credible and approved link. I don't care who says it, I think critically about what was said. Try it sometime. 3 1
Popular Post HuskerDo2 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 I blame his behavior on global warming. It fried his brain. 1 3
Popular Post DezLez Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 17 minutes ago, HuskerDo2 said: I blame his behavior on global warming. It fried his brain. What brain? 3
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: I read the entire story in more than one media source... what is left out of every one of the left leaning media is that Trump was saying that fraud should be a reason in itself when it comes to all rules etc. to change those rules... he did not say throw out the constitution... that is not the issue. What's missing from your posts are sources to support what you claim Trump is saying. Exactly what rules does he propose the change? What's missing from Trump's fraud claims is any credible evidence of fraud. 4
Tug Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 On 12/3/2022 at 5:10 PM, Thailand said: Cue men in white coats. Oh I donno personally I feel a bucket of hot tar with a liberal dose of feathers then off to prison it is kinda fun to watch him wine and snivel hold your toupee old Donnie indictments are a coming !
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Rolling Stone, ahahaaa Com'on man you can do better than that Well he could quote from Truth Social, but nobody's going to believe anything coming from that source. 2 6
Popular Post ballpoint Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 19 hours ago, DezLez said: Or Macbeth with; “Is this a dagger which I see before me" Shakespeare summed him up in King Lear: “A knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue" 1 3
Popular Post placeholder Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: How about fixing the site so that people like me, who came to Thailand to get away from this <deleted>, aren't made to view it? The Topics sidebar is the root of all evil here. Is that bloke from aseannow.com showing up at your place and twisting your head to force you to view the sidebar? I hate it when he shows up at my home! 2 2 5
Popular Post JustThisOnePostOnly Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: So now you're saying you want to know about visa stuff etc, I suggest you read topic headers before clicking on them in future as you've just gone way off topic You appear to not understand. I don't visit World News ever. That's not why I come on Asean Now. However, the website features a section on the right of the page that is called Topics, and that will display stories from all over the site, regardless of whether or not I'm interested in the subject matter or not. This is a highly controversial subject. If you're going to drag me unwillingly into it, then I'm going to look at what other stories were posted in World News to see whether or not the site is being moderated fairly. Putting a topic up about Trump calling for the "termination" the Constitution is already inflammatory given that this is not what he said, but it is especially so when you don't bother to report on the very damning evidence being released by Twitter that is context to his post and that demonstrates unequivocally how incredibly corrupt this last election was. This is what he actually said. Are we allowed to post what he actually said here or is that too inconvenient to the narrative that you're trying to sell? 1 8
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: You appear to not understand. I don't visit World News ever. That's not why I come on Asean Now. However, the website features a section on the right of the page that is called Topics, and that will display stories from all over the site, regardless of whether or not I'm interested in the subject matter or not. This is a highly controversial subject. If you're going to drag me unwillingly into it, then I'm going to look at what other stories were posted in World News to see whether or not the site is being moderated fairly. Putting a topic up about Trump calling for the "termination" the Constitution is already inflammatory given that this is not what he said, but it is especially so when you don't bother to report on the very damning evidence being released by Twitter that is context to his post and that demonstrates unequivocally how incredibly corrupt this last election was. This is what he actually said. Are we allowed to post what he actually said here or is that too inconvenient to the narrative that you're trying to sell? Twitter is not a reputable source for evidence. The last election was so corrupt that nearly every court case was tossed out as being frivolous and a number of Trump lawyers were sanctioned for even bring the cases. I'd suggest you not comment on moderation or anything else here until you have read the forum rules. 4
placeholder Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: This is a highly controversial subject. If you're going to drag me unwillingly into it, then I'm going to look at what other stories were posted in World News to see whether or not the site is being moderated fairly. In other words, the Devil made me do it. 1
Popular Post xylophone Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: Putting a topic up about Trump calling for the "termination" the Constitution is already inflammatory given that this is not what he said, but it is especially so when you don't bother to report on the very damning evidence being released by Twitter that is context to his post and that demonstrates unequivocally how incredibly corrupt this last election was. "but it is especially so when you don't bother to report on the very damning evidence being released by Twitter that is context to his post and that demonstrates unequivocally how incredibly corrupt this last election was". What utter nonsense, which has been proven time and time again to be the case. Has to be something wrong with someone who gets their "news" from Twatter.........absolutely unbelievable, but does show that there are still some Kool Aid cult drinkers out there!! 3 1
Popular Post pomchop Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: You appear to not understand. I don't visit World News ever. That's not why I come on Asean Now. However, the website features a section on the right of the page that is called Topics, and that will display stories from all over the site, regardless of whether or not I'm interested in the subject matter or not. This is a highly controversial subject. If you're going to drag me unwillingly into it, then I'm going to look at what other stories were posted in World News to see whether or not the site is being moderated fairly. Putting a topic up about Trump calling for the "termination" the Constitution is already inflammatory given that this is not what he said, but it is especially so when you don't bother to report on the very damning evidence being released by Twitter that is context to his post and that demonstrates unequivocally how incredibly corrupt this last election was. This is what he actually said. Are we allowed to post what he actually said here or is that too inconvenient to the narrative that you're trying to sell? and where is his EVIDENCE of this massive fraud of which he keeps beating the same tired old BS....what narrative is HE trying to sell with no evidence...it's very very simple...if you make wild accusations of massive fraud then just show us the evidence of such fraud...otherwise you are just an angry old man full of hate and conspiracy theories on the edge of total delusion....just because he says that twitter is evidence of corruption does not make it true....go ahead file some more frivolous lawsuits and see if a judge thinks you have evidence of massive fraud...how'd that work out the previous 60++ times that he screamed fraud? 4 2
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 This man has never had any respect for the rule of law. And he has been in denial for a very long time. The fact that he lost by such a wide margin, even though he likely cheated, is quite an indictment. No Don, the election was not stolen. You were unceremoniously ushered out of DC, and the people said enough of your nonsense. You were a bull in a china closet, created mayhem, chaos, hatred, decision, and nearly caused a civil war. We are so much better off without you, and many Americans hope and pray you will end up in prison, for your decades of misdeeds, crimes, fraud, cheating, and misbehavior. You are a very sad man, lacking any dignity, decency, or grace. His base has been dwindling since the election. Alot of conservative friends and family I have been speaking with, agree Biden won, and the fraud thing is a bit much, and a sure sign of a sore loser. And those same people say that it would be easier to continue supporting the man, if he just kept his mouth shut. I think the DC fiasco backfired for sure, and he lost alot of his "middle of the road, sensible, hard working, decent people" base. It was an enormous miscalculation, and an act of sheer desperation by an unhinged madman. Trump incited a riot. He has no limits of civility or temperance. And the more extremist people within his base take what he says as literally as some fundamentalists take the Bible. Add in deniers like Cruz and Hawley, (small minded men just jockeying for a powerful future position) and you have a near civil war. Fair to intervene? Or just sit back, and let it happen? I think what FB and Twitter did was glorious, wise, and upholds the republic. I never in a million years thought Dorsey or Zuck would have the cajones to do this. Good on them! Now, we have weaker men like Musk, who are trying to change the rules of the game. 4 4
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