HappyExpat57 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 5 hours ago, placeholder said: Another case of I-don't-like-Trump-but. It's the way crypto Trump supporters attempt to fool us into believing their neutrality. You must be very exhausted having to strain so hard to find another interpretation for Trump's comments. How do you reconcile your interpretation with his following "truth" that he posted: "UNPRECEDENTED FRAUD REQUIRES UNPRECEDENTED CURE!" You keep going on and on, SHOUTING about this "unprecedented fraud." WHAT fraud? I asked you once already in this thread. I'll ask again - WHAT fraud? Do you know something that only you, the "My Pillow Guy," and the disgraced former president are aware of, cuz the rest of the world has moved on about this. There WAS no fraud (except a few cases where Republicans got caught cheating). 1
billd766 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 10 hours ago, JustThisOnePostOnly said: No such thread appears to exist in World News. How about fixing the site so that people like me, who came to Thailand to get away from this <deleted>, aren't made to view it? The Topics sidebar is the root of all evil here. I want to know about visa stuff, advance notice of no-beer days, and maybe general news re: Thailand if it isn't too gory. You are NOT made to view it at all. You can look at the title of the thread BEFORE you open it, and if you don't think you want to read it, just skip the thread. The choice is YOURS and yours alone to open the thread or not.
Chomper Higgot Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: You keep going on and on, SHOUTING about this "unprecedented fraud." WHAT fraud? I asked you once already in this thread. I'll ask again - WHAT fraud? Do you know something that only you, the "My Pillow Guy," and the disgraced former president are aware of, cuz the rest of the world has moved on about this. There WAS no fraud (except a few cases where Republicans got caught cheating). Placeholder is quoting Trump’s clamors of ‘unprecedented fraud’ which Trump posted in capitals. 1
ozimoron Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Trump clearly has his eye on this case. He's dog whistling to his pet justices. the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments on Wednesday that could lead to a ruling that would create chaos for decades and throw future elections into turmoil on a state-by-state basis. At issue is Moore v. Harper, which could set the stage for the implementation of the “Independent State Legislature Theory” that would have a wide-ranging impact on federal elections by allowing state legislatures to manipulate voting districts even more than they are doing so now. https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-2658831933/ 1
placeholder Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 16 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said: You keep going on and on, SHOUTING about this "unprecedented fraud." WHAT fraud? I asked you once already in this thread. I'll ask again - WHAT fraud? Do you know something that only you, the "My Pillow Guy," and the disgraced former president are aware of, cuz the rest of the world has moved on about this. There WAS no fraud (except a few cases where Republicans got caught cheating). Are you talking to me or to Donald Trump? I was quoting him. 2
billd766 Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 9 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: "If you're going to drag me unwillingly into it" Ok got it now, so I'm dragging you into this topic or the sidebar navigation is ???? Well if that's the case at least read it from the beginning, that means clicking the link to the CNN website OP and discovering the full quote there already without the need to find it on archive although I note you seem to have the wherewithal to do that, so I find it hard to believe you cannot click the OP link. Please don't feed the troll. Don't respond to any of his posts and even stick him on your ignore list. 2
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 The efforts to discipline attorneys who aided former President Donald Trump’s legal gambits to undermine the 2020 election take a major step forward Monday with the start of key disciplinary proceedings in Washington, DC, that will look into whether Rudy Giuliani violated attorney ethics rules. A hearing committee for the Board on Professional Responsibility will hear testimony from witnesses – including from Giuliani himself – as it weighs whether the lawsuit the former New York City mayor brought on behalf of Trump’s 2020 campaign put him in violation of attorney ethics rules. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/05/politics/rudy-giuliani-ethics-hearing/index.html 4
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 8 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: People knew he was shady when he got elected. I couldn't believe waking up to Trump being prez. Then I saw the videos of liberals absolutely melting down, unbelievable how they carried on. That's when I became a fan. Anything that caused these candy assed liberals this much pain can't be all bad. Noted: You supported Trump for his entertainment value, not because he was in any way qualified to be President. You are definitely no patriot. 3 1 3
heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: The USA should get rid of its constitution completely , its unnecessary these days and a hindrance to progression . Other Countries manage just fine without a constitution A few questions: Where are you from? Do you know anything about U.S. history and government? What countries are managing fine without a constitution? Yeah, I know, the UK, but where else? What do you propose replacing the U.S. Constitution with? A dictatorship?
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Just now, heybruce said: A few questions: Where are you from? Do you know anything about U.S. history and government? What countries are managing fine without a constitution? Yeah, I know, the UK, but where else? What do you propose replacing the U.S. Constitution with? A dictatorship? The U.K Hardly anything at all TBH The U.K No, a normal Western Style democracy
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: The U.K Hardly anything at all TBH The U.K No, a normal Western Style democracy So your statement "Other Countries manage just fine without a constitution" should have been "One country with a unique history of restraining monarchy and slowly evolving democracy has done reasonably well without a constitution." Why do you think that is an endorsement of democracy without a constitution; i.e. democracy without rules? 2 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, heybruce said: So your statement "Other Countries manage just fine without a constitution" should have been "One country with a unique history of restraining monarchy and slowly evolving democracy has done reasonably well without a constitution." Why do you think that is an endorsement of democracy without a constitution; i.e. democracy without rules? Do I really need to tell you which Countries have democracies and no constitution like the U.K's ? If you don't know that , then this isn't going to be an intelligent discussion .If you don't know the basics , I wont be telling you
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, heybruce said: Why do you think that is an endorsement of democracy without a constitution; i.e. democracy without rules? We don't have outdated constitution rules about owning guns and we can have a gun free society without armed police . (Guns to Americans are like a porn movie featuring Kate Moss and Naomi Campbell to most others)
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Do I really need to tell you which Countries have democracies and no constitution like the U.K's ? If you don't know that , then this isn't going to be an intelligent discussion .If you don't know the basics , I wont be telling you Yes, you really need to tell me, and others, which successful countries have established democracies without constitutions. Not a comprehensive list, just a few examples. Otherwise it looks like you made something up and now realize you can't defend it. 2 3 1
heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: We don't have outdated constitution rules about owning guns and we can have a gun free society without armed police . (Guns to Americans are like a porn movie featuring Kate Moss and Naomi Campbell to most others) How many Prime Ministers have you had in the last few months? How's the economy doing? How much does that monarchy cost the UK taxpayers? Any parts of the UK trying to secede from the union? 1 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, heybruce said: How many Prime Ministers have you had in the last few months? How's the economy doing? How much does that monarchy cost the UK taxpayers? Any parts of the UK trying to secede from the union? We get rid of Prime misters if they aren't performing satisfactorily , maybe the USA should think about doing the same ? Economies doing similar to many other Countries Don't know how much the monarchy costs and few vociferous Scots wants independence , bit like some Californians 1
heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said: We get rid of Prime misters if they aren't performing satisfactorily , maybe the USA should think about doing the same ? Economies doing similar to many other Countries Don't know how much the monarchy costs and few vociferous Scots wants independence , bit like some Californians A "few" Scots want independence? Maybe you should check your count. I also haven't heard of any Californians who want to secede. There are probably a few, but a trivial number relative to the population. You might also look into things in Northern Ireland. I understand the UK government is still trying to figure out how to keep NI in the union without abandoning Brexit. Now about the democracy part; how many people in the UK voted for your last several Prime Ministers? When can the UK voters count on having an election so the majority can have some say in the matter? There are reasons why few countries want to copy the UK's unusual form of government. I'm still waiting for examples of successful no-constitution democracies outside the UK. 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 The clown car is out in full force today. We have a constitutional crisis because Joe Biden is not legitimate. Trump 2024 campaign attorney Christina Bobb agreed that Biden was "absolutely not" a legitimate president. "I think he was put forward to be a stooge, to be controlled by, you know, shadowy figures that didn't want their fingerprints or their names on certain things," Bobb opined. https://www.rawstory.com/steve-bannon-constitution/ 7
Popular Post Jingthing Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, ozimoron said: The clown car is out in full force today. We have a constitutional crisis because Joe Biden is not legitimate. Trump 2024 campaign attorney Christina Bobb agreed that Biden was "absolutely not" a legitimate president. "I think he was put forward to be a stooge, to be controlled by, you know, shadowy figures that didn't want their fingerprints or their names on certain things," Bobb opined. https://www.rawstory.com/steve-bannon-constitution/ Lizard people? 3 2
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, heybruce said: I'm still waiting for examples of successful no-constitution democracies outside the UK. I don't know either, you will have to ask else someone else 2
Popular Post ozimoron Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 The former president kicked off his latest attack on the press, writing, "The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to 'terminate' the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS." https://www.rawstory.com/trump-terminate-constitution-2658834156/ 3
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Do I really need to tell you which Countries have democracies and no constitution like the U.K's ? If you don't know that , then this isn't going to be an intelligent discussion .If you don't know the basics , I wont be telling you 1 hour ago, Mac Mickmanus said: I don't know either, you will have to ask else someone else Quite a turn-around from your earlier post. 2 1
heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 1 hour ago, ozimoron said: The clown car is out in full force today. We have a constitutional crisis because Joe Biden is not legitimate. Trump 2024 campaign attorney Christina Bobb agreed that Biden was "absolutely not" a legitimate president. "I think he was put forward to be a stooge, to be controlled by, you know, shadowy figures that didn't want their fingerprints or their names on certain things," Bobb opined. https://www.rawstory.com/steve-bannon-constitution/ Remember Trump's claim that he hired "the best people"? What a hoot! 1
Mac Mickmanus Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, heybruce said: Quite a turn-around from your earlier post. Not really, I did state that it wouldn't be an intelligent conversations and that's still my opinion and I haven't "turned around" at all 1
Popular Post bendejo Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 8 hours ago, ozimoron said: Trump clearly has his eye on this case. He's dog whistling to his pet justices. the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments on Wednesday that could lead to a ruling that would create chaos for decades and throw future elections into turmoil on a state-by-state basis. At issue is Moore v. Harper, which could set the stage for the implementation of the “Independent State Legislature Theory” that would have a wide-ranging impact on federal elections by allowing state legislatures to manipulate voting districts even more than they are doing so now. https://www.rawstory.com/supreme-court-2658831933/ The sort of chaos Bannon was reaching for. AZ was his target for stirring it up, but his plan dried up when Cochise county certified the election result. Alito and Clarence have been disgraced as corrupt and liars -- they should be shown the door, and if not that then dissolve the Supreme Court. No good will come of this court in it's present state, the rot became permeable when McConnell hijacked the appointment process. 3 2
Popular Post heybruce Posted December 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted December 5, 2022 11 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: The USA should get rid of its constitution completely , its unnecessary these days and a hindrance to progression . Other Countries manage just fine without a constitution 6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Do I really need to tell you which Countries have democracies and no constitution like the U.K's ? If you don't know that , then this isn't going to be an intelligent discussion .If you don't know the basics , I wont be telling you 4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said: Not really, I did state that it wouldn't be an intelligent conversations and that's still my opinion and I haven't "turned around" at all So you've gone from the radical suggestion that the US should do without its constitution, to implying that I should know what countries have successful democracies without constitutions, to acknowledging you don't know the basics of what you are posting about. That's worth remembering when reading your future posts. 1 4
EVENKEEL Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 7 hours ago, heybruce said: Noted: You supported Trump for his entertainment value, not because he was in any way qualified to be President. You are definitely no patriot. Trump won because folks wanted a non politician type to lead them. The people spoke. 1
ozimoron Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Trump won because folks wanted a non politician type to lead them. The people spoke. A minority of people voted for him, the majority for the other candidate. 2
EVENKEEL Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: A minority of people voted for him, the majority for the other candidate. In America the electoral system is used to determine the winner. 1
Chomper Higgot Posted December 6, 2022 Posted December 6, 2022 7 hours ago, heybruce said: Yes, you really need to tell me, and others, which successful countries have established democracies without constitutions. Not a comprehensive list, just a few examples. Otherwise it looks like you made something up and now realize you can't defend it. Which is precisely what he did. 1 1
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