The Far Right Wants You to Think Ukraine’s War Is Staged: ‘It Is Clearly a Psyop’

[onthedarkside]

 

Kyle Becker, a far-right commentator who has in the past worked for Fox News and Tim Pool’s podcast, also shared the claim that there was no footage available of what’s likely the most-documented war in human history.

 

“I am sick and tired of the lack of footage of the Ukraine war, I worked in cable news, I am initiated, if it bleeds, it leads, where is the war footage? where are the Pulitzer Prize winning photos, this smacks of a scam and the American people are fed up,” Becker tweeted.

 

On Truth Social, disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn endorsed Catturd’s claims, writing: “What Catturd said, and I double dare anyone to say he is wrong.”

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qwbx/far-right-conspiracy-theory-wants-you-to-think-ukraine-war-staged

 

[Bluespunk]

25 minutes ago, onthedarkside said:

On Truth Social, disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn endorsed Catturd’s claims, writing: “What Catturd said, and I double dare anyone to say he is wrong.”

He is wrong.

[James105]

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

He is wrong.

He is asking a question, not making a statement of fact.   What is the answer to his question?   I'm interested to know the answer and would like to see some kind of evidence that all the billions upon billions of dollars of funding has actually been used to fund some kind of defence rather than just making a few people very, very rich.   

 

[Baht Simpson]

It's always a red flag when someone purports to speak for everyone.

 

And I know that everyone on this site agrees with me.  :)

[Baht Simpson]

7 minutes ago, James105 said:

He is asking a question, not making a statement of fact.   What is the answer to his question?   I'm interested to know the answer and would like to see some kind of evidence that all the billions upon billions of dollars of funding has actually been used to fund some kind of defence rather than just making a few people very, very rich.   

 

Early on in the proceedings wasn't there a guy who was pro-Russian reporting on the ground how well the invasion was going, or did I dream that?

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

He is asking a question, not making a statement of fact.   What is the answer to his question?   I'm interested to know the answer and would like to see some kind of evidence that all the billions upon billions of dollars of funding has actually been used to fund some kind of defence rather than just making a few people very, very rich.   

 

And I answered his lunatic question.

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1 hour ago, James105 said:

He is asking a question, not making a statement of fact.   What is the answer to his question?   I'm interested to know the answer and would like to see some kind of evidence that all the billions upon billions of dollars of funding has actually been used to fund some kind of defence rather than just making a few people very, very rich.   

 

Are tortoises the real power behind world government?

 

I'm not claiming tortoises are the real power behind world government. I'm just asking a question.

Edited February 28, 2023 by placeholder

[Mac Mickmanus]

"The most popular post came from an anonymous right-wing Twitter account called Amuse, which shared the video with the comment: “Stop Moving - You’re Supposed to be Dead! Psyop?”

 

 

   Those videos were taken in Austria and they have nothing to do with the war in Ukraine .

   

Edited February 28, 2023 by Mac Mickmanus
Its just occurred to me, that I am sat here talking to an anonymous twitter account :)

[Jingthing]

No wonder the Kremlin thought that the USA was weak and wouldn't push back. They can see the kind of nut jobs that are actually given attention by a significant percentage of the population.

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just been reading the link and no one seems to be saying that the Ukraine war is staged , can anyone point out who actually says that ?

   

 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qwbx/far-right-conspiracy-theory-wants-you-to-think-ukraine-war-staged

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

He is asking a question, not making a statement of fact.   What is the answer to his question?   I'm interested to know the answer and would like to see some kind of evidence that all the billions upon billions of dollars of funding has actually been used to fund some kind of defence rather than just making a few people very, very rich.   

 

It’s what’s know as a loaded question.

 

Fools fall for it.

[Bkk Brian]

Just when you think it can't get any lower, this absolute nonsense arises.

 

Complaining of lack of footage available........do they not realize there are 100's of deaths everyday from both sides, its world war 1 trench warfare stuff, if they want more footage get to Ukraine and film it yourselves in the trenches which is where the front lines are!

 

Unbelievable here's just one of the right wing dingbats

 

From the OP link: "According to Peters , the video is not a positive story about the resilience of the Ukrainian people, but proof the war is “100% fake” and that the damage was never inflicted in the first place."

 

 

Original video tweet link

https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1629187093820854272

& his other piece of conspiracy nonsense

https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1629168244266237953

 

 

[Tug]

2 hours ago, James105 said:

He is asking a question, not making a statement of fact.   What is the answer to his question?   I'm interested to know the answer and would like to see some kind of evidence that all the billions upon billions of dollars of funding has actually been used to fund some kind of defence rather than just making a few people very, very rich.   

 

Really comrade?how about all the dead Russians that have been killed in Putin’s war of theft and war crimes not to mention the absolute horror that has been visited on the Ukrainian nation fighting for it’s very existence there is plenty of evidence that the war is real as for Flynn he’s a felon pardon or not a true traitor to his oath nobody buying this bs but the nutters nobody 

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

Just when you think it can't get any lower, this absolute nonsense arises.

 

Complaining of lack of footage available........do they not realize there are 100's of deaths everyday from both sides, its world war 1 trench warfare stuff, if they want more footage get to Ukraine and film it yourselves in the trenches which is where the front lines are!

 

Unbelievable here's just one of the right wing dingbats

 

From the OP link: "According to Peters , the video is not a positive story about the resilience of the Ukrainian people, but proof the war is “100% fake” and that the damage was never inflicted in the first place."

 

 

Original video tweet link

https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1629187093820854272

& his other piece of conspiracy nonsense

https://twitter.com/realstewpeters/status/1629168244266237953

 

 

What does Stew Peters say about it ?

The photos  show damaged buildings which have been repaired

What does he mean by stating the war if fake and then posting photos of bombed buildings ? 

I have just been reading Stew Peters opinion and he seems to be saying that the reasons given for the war are fake , rather than the war itself being fake .

   His opinion is that Russia are fighting against Ukrainian aggressors .

  

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the photo below , how come the trees in the foreground are smaller in the 2023 photo .

   As trees grow and get bigger , I would have thought that the trees would have been bigger in 2023 .

   Unless someone has swapped the dates around ?

[Bkk Brian]

6 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What does Stew Peters say about it ?

The photos  show damaged buildings which have been repaired

What does he mean by stating the war if fake and then posting photos of bombed buildings ? 

I have just been reading Stew Peters opinion and he seems to be saying that the reasons given for the war are fake , rather than the war itself being fake .

   His opinion is that Russia are fighting against Ukrainian aggressors .

  

His opinion is that Russia are fighting against Ukrainian aggressors .

 

He also thinks the moon landings are fake if you want to listen to his opinions.

[Bluespunk]

29 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

What does Stew Peters say about it ?

The photos  show damaged buildings which have been repaired

What does he mean by stating the war if fake and then posting photos of bombed buildings ? 

I have just been reading Stew Peters opinion and he seems to be saying that the reasons given for the war are fake , rather than the war itself being fake .

   His opinion is that Russia are fighting against Ukrainian aggressors .

  

Which is a stupid opinion. 

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49 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

In the photo below , how come the trees in the foreground are smaller in the 2023 photo .

   As trees grow and get bigger , I would have thought that the trees would have been bigger in 2023 .

   Unless someone has swapped the dates around ?

And who would that "someone" be if not Stew Peters?

[onthedarkside]

Troll post and replies removed. If you can't be bothered to read the original link then don't bait with questions about it.

[heybruce]

8 hours ago, James105 said:

He is asking a question, not making a statement of fact.   What is the answer to his question?   I'm interested to know the answer and would like to see some kind of evidence that all the billions upon billions of dollars of funding has actually been used to fund some kind of defence rather than just making a few people very, very rich.   

 

If you won't accept all the reports, videos, and pictures of combat, casualties and devastated cities then you'll have to go to Ukraine to see for yourself. 

 

Have a nice trip.

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

In the photo below , how come the trees in the foreground are smaller in the 2023 photo .

   As trees grow and get bigger , I would have thought that the trees would have been bigger in 2023 .

   Unless someone has swapped the dates around ?

More likely someone has been trimming the trees to keep the branches away from the power lines in the pictures.

[Mac Mickmanus]

39 minutes ago, heybruce said:

More likely someone has been trimming the trees to keep the branches away from the power lines in the pictures.

No, the power lines are on the other side of the road, well away from the trees 

[onthedarkside]

Ukraine war: Viral conspiracy theories falsely claim the war is fake

 

The first anniversary of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine has led to a spike in false claims about the war on social media, with some posts gaining millions of engagements.

 

A number of US right-wing accounts with large followings posted a series of baseless claims that suggested the entire Ukraine war might be a hoax perpetrated by Western media and governments.

 

Those spreading the most viral claims included some who had previously been suspended from Twitter and allowed back onto the platform following Elon Musk's takeover.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64789737

[Chomper Higgot]

9 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

In the photo below , how come the trees in the foreground are smaller in the 2023 photo .

   As trees grow and get bigger , I would have thought that the trees would have been bigger in 2023 .

   Unless someone has swapped the dates around ?

Or manipulated the photos, or cropped the trees.

[nauseus]

11 hours ago, Jingthing said:

No wonder the Kremlin thought that the USA was weak and wouldn't push back. They can see the kind of nut jobs that are actually given attention by a significant percentage of the population.

If it is true that the Kremlin thought that the USA was weak and wouldn't push back, then the calamitous exit from Afghanistan would be far more likely to be the real reason.

[James105]

 

4 hours ago, heybruce said:

If you won't accept all the reports, videos, and pictures of combat, casualties and devastated cities then you'll have to go to Ukraine to see for yourself. 

 

Have a nice trip.

Considering the money that is involved you are not even a teeny bit skeptical about what you are being told?  I have no doubt that Russia decided to be aggressive but the only involvement the west should have is to impose sanctions, de-escalate and negotiate peace, not funnel money into the second most corrupt country in Europe (second only to Russia).   The only winners in wars are those that sell the weapons, and I don't really want my tax money being spent on this quite frankly.   

 

Anyway this report from CNN is quite amusing.   

 

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

While I believe that a conflict is going on "over there", I think it is being spun out by sending defensive rather than offensive weapons, which will keep the war going and the profits rolling in for western arms makers.

Follow the money.

[bendejo]

VICE keeps an eye on Flynn, they even covered his tent revivals (well, tried to).  I don't know if he will run himself or be someone's guided-by-Jesus pitbull.

Does anyone know what the deadline is to sign up for GOP primaries?  Couldn't get a proper answer when I searched. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Considering the money that is involved you are not even a teeny bit skeptical about what you are being told?  I have no doubt that Russia decided to be aggressive but the only involvement the west should have is to impose sanctions, de-escalate and negotiate peace, not funnel money into the second most corrupt country in Europe (second only to Russia).   The only winners in wars are those that sell the weapons, and I don't really want my tax money being spent on this quite frankly.   

 

Anyway this report from CNN is quite amusing.   

 

You might be able to make a case for skepticism about some things. But skeptical that there's an actual war going on in Ukraine? Really?

[heybruce]

6 hours ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

No, the power lines are on the other side of the road, well away from the trees 

The pictures aren't clear enough to tell where power lines are.  Regardless, there are many reasons to trim trees in cities.

Edited March 1, 2023 by heybruce