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1 hour ago, placeholder said:

The document does exist but it's value as evidence is extremely questionable. Basically, it's an unredacted report from a confidential source. The FBI has a policy of not releasing such reports since revealing their contents could compromise the anonymity of those who made the confidential report. Also, because in and of themselves they have very little value as evidence. But I'm sure Comer knows this but is desperate to distract attention that his big reveal turned out to be a major flop.

Compromising the anonymous sources is bad? Always?

 

"Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), who also was on the call, chimed in, “While the FBI has apparently leaked classified information to the news media in recent weeks, jeopardizing its own human sources, it continues to treat Congress like second-class citizens by refusing to provide a specific unclassified record.”

 

From my above linked NYPost article.

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1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

No, the FBI have not confirmed that a document exists that describes "Biden's pay for play in detail."

 

They have confirmed the existence of a document from a confidential informant that alleges wrongdoing by Biden. It is Comer et al who claim it contains details of a pay for play scheme - the FBI has not confirmed that is what it contains.

 

And since Comer has apparently not seen the document yet (though the FBI has said he's free to look at it) then he can't confirm what it contains either.

Moreover: 

 

"The document has origins in a tranche of documents that Rudy Giuliani provided to the Justice Department in 2020, people briefed on the matter said." ????

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics/christopher-wray-congress-contempt/index.html

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1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Yes, and as that article further points out:

 

Even Bill Barr said that information from the Ukrainian sources this document came from, can't be taken at face value.

Oh, I did not pay attention to that. I guess it comes from the Russian operative (Derkach) Giuliani has been in contact with. The guy has been excluded from the Ukrainian Parliament for his pro-Russia stance.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/law-order/2085889-ukraine-accuses-us-sanctioned-lawmaker-of-working-for-russia?amp

 

Also sanctioned in the US.

https://archive.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/us-cracks-down-on-russian-linked-friends-of-rudy-giuliani.html

 

So definitely a Giuliani scam that even Barr did not accept.

 

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9 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Please cease with the personal and abusive off topic comments. Thank you.

 

Now you must be aware by now that the FBI have confirmed the existence of this form describing biden's pay for play in detail, which the FBI are desperately trying to keep private. So no, I am not talking "rubbish and nonsense".

 

"While Director Wray – after a month of refusing to even acknowledge that the form existed – has offered to allow us to see the documents in person at FBI headquarters, we have been clear that anything short of producing these documents to the House Oversight Committee is not in compliance with the subpoena,” Comer went on. “If the FBI fails to hand over the FD-1023 form as required by the subpoena, the House Oversight Committee will begin contempt of Congress proceedings.”

https://nypost.com/2023/05/31/fbi-director-wray-offers-to-let-congress-see-biden-bribery-allegation/

 

The document exists. Period. 

 

The document exists therefore...?

I remember the exultant cries raised by Trump supporters when it became known that banks had filed Suspicious Activity Reports on various members of the Biden family. 

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31 minutes ago, candide said:

Oh, I did not pay attention to that. I guess it comes from the Russian operative (Derkach) Giuliani has been in contact with. The guy has been excluded from the Ukrainian Parliament for his pro-Russia stance.

https://www.devdiscourse.com/article/law-order/2085889-ukraine-accuses-us-sanctioned-lawmaker-of-working-for-russia?amp

 

Also sanctioned in the US.

https://archive.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/us-cracks-down-on-russian-linked-friends-of-rudy-giuliani.html

 

So definitely a Giuliani scam that even Barr did not accept.

 

Actually Derkach was even deprived of citizenship.

https://babel.ua/en/news/89191-zelensky-deprived-the-citizenship-of-ukraine-of-lawmakers-victor-medvedchuk-taras-kozak-renat-kuzmin-and-andriy-derkach

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On 6/1/2023 at 4:45 PM, placeholder said:

The document exists therefore...?

I remember the exultant cries raised by Trump supporters when it became known that banks had filed Suspicious Activity Reports on various members of the Biden family. 

That would likely be because biden and the left falsely claimed that he and his family had never taken money from overseas adversaries. Saying he or his family had received money from overseas would get you banned from internet forums. So naturally when the conspiracy theory that the biden family had never received money from overseas was shown to be just that - a conspiracy theory - the new facts were pointed out by conservatives. Conservatives that had been called morons, cultists, liars etc etc.

 

link to these bank transactions biden and his fans were so sure never happened that they shut down facts that were not beneficial to the joe biden narrative being discussed. That is not a good thing.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

 

Still waiting for representatives of the left to tell why these monies they denied ever being paid were paid. Care to explain for us all?

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*Deleted post edited out*

 

 

I'll repost an old post of mine that tackles your above comment.

 

 

"The way Republicans tell it, President Biden has been complicit in a long-running scheme to profit from his position in public life through shady dealings around the world engineered by his son, Hunter Biden."

 

So that was the Republican narrative surrounding the business deals the laptop showed happening. And a little reminder not a single representative of the left here have specified who the "big guy" was that was involved in at least one potential deal. And not a single representative of the left here have specified WHY these Chinese and Ukrainians were paying non qualified Hunter vast sums of money.

 

And the left's narrative was what?

 

"Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo"

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

 

 

 

So, which side had/has a better grip on reality? "

https://aseannow.com/topic/1283375-hunter-biden’s-tangled-tale-comes-front-and-center/

 

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5 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

That would likely be because biden and the left falsely claimed that he and his family had never taken money from overseas adversaries. Saying he or his family had received money from overseas would get you banned from internet forums. So naturally when the conspiracy theory that the biden family had never received money from overseas was shown to be just that - a conspiracy theory - the new facts were pointed out by conservatives. Conservatives that had been called morons, cultists, liars etc etc.

 

link to these bank transactions biden and his fans were so sure never happened that they shut down facts that were not beneficial to the joe biden narrative being discussed. That is not a good thing.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-new-evidence-in-biden-familys-influence-peddling-schemes/

 

Still waiting for representatives of the left to tell why these monies they denied ever being paid were paid. Care to explain for us all?

Since when is it illegal or even suspect to receive money and do from foreign entities and make business with them, including from China?

 

On top of it, the amounts considered are ridiculously low. For you or me, it seems to be a lot, but for consulting firms, It's peanuts.

 

On top of it, a few miserable millions are not even worth getting corrupt at this level. Look what Jared got: billions! That would be a more reasonable amount at the WH level

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10 minutes ago, candide said:

Since when is it illegal or even suspect to receive money and do from foreign entities and make business with them, including from China?

I don't know if it is illegal, but the wokes make a big deal of it about Trump doing business with Russia.

 

Maybe it's one rule for some, and another rule for others?

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9 minutes ago, BenStark said:

I don't know if it is illegal, but the wokes make a big deal of it about Trump doing business with Russia.

 

Maybe it's one rule for some, and another rule for others?

Indeed, every person assisting Russian oligarchs to launder money should be prosecuted.

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Just now, ozimoron said:

Indeed, every person assisting Russian oligarchs to launder money should be prosecuted.

You have a credible link for your accusation?

 

Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source.

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6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Can you provide a link to this claim, my highlight:

 

Hunter isn't even in government, then I wonder why he accompanies his dad on Air Force One to those countries, and suddenly shortly after the visits he gets a business deal

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-54553132

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-wooed-china-execs-high-level-ccp-ties-while-fundraising-film-venture-dad-vp

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-trip-china-son-hunter-2013-comes-under-new-n1061051

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/fact-check-trump-bidens-china/index.html

 

Facts First: There is no evidence that former Vice President Joe Biden received money from China. Though when it comes to Biden’s son Hunter, Trump’s allegations are not thoroughly unfounded.

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Just now, BenStark said:

That still does not support your claim:

 

suddenly shortly after the visits he gets a business deal

 

Which happens to be false:

 

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden’s visit Saturday to support Ukraine’s fragile democracy came soon after his youngest son was hired by a private Ukrainian company that promotes energy independence from Moscow.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-europe-business-c49555d51eb243e09a42f7577fc5937f

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