What do you believe happens to you when you die?

[ICU Kid]

4 hours ago, bignok said:

Where does the spirit come from? 

 

Good question - if anyone could answer we might have a clue as to where we're going.

 

Since we've all been taught that it's 'tHe sCiEnCe(TM)' that we all came from a 'big bang' (though for the record, it definitely wasn't a God that made it bang) that just happened.   

And the dust from the bang (magically?) changed and then we became fish, then monkeys then human. 

Does anyone actually believe this [deleted]?

or does anyone actually have a more logical explanation than a God?

 

People laugh about the idea of a creator but don't admit to not having an alternative theory where a simple 'dunno' would suffice.

 

I'm not sure either way but have my suspicions : )

Edited June 6, 2023 by ICU Kid

[sirineou]

1 hour ago, Moonlover said:

It's amazing what a vivid imagination can do. Thanks, but I'll save my $12.99 for something a little more practical (that I can't take with me when I go ????)

Dude , you certainly cant take me with , hell no I wont go. As for practicality I assure you, I am very practical. You should see me peel potatoes.   

[sirineou]

43 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

 

I've no idea. You'd better ask @sirineou about that.

You never left , so no need for a return ticket , but in the multiverse there is a reality where I get the 12.99 so  be a good soldier and send me the damn 12.99????

Even better, there is a universe  where many of you send me the 12.99 (plus shipping and handling , I forgot to mention that)  so yea!  lets go with that one.  

[Walker88]

2 hours ago, bignok said:

I see no evidence presented.

Do you have a degree in biochemistry or neurology?  How about cosmology or particle physics. Quantum Field Theory? (I have one of those.) You would find your evidence there, though for some people it might be disconcerting..

 

The Earth is not flat. Lots of folks 'knew' it was before the theory of gravity was put forth. I guess it's fortunate that believers can take their faith into non-existence and never have to face reality. The irony is that reality is far more interesting than any faith or belief system in such things as consciousness independent of physical structure.

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, ICU Kid said:

Good question - if anyone could answer we might have a clue as to where we're going.

 

Since we've all been taught that it's 'tHe sCiEnCe(TM)' that we all came from a 'big bang' (though for the record, it definitely wasn't a God that made it bang) that just happened.   

And the dust from the bang (magically?) changed and then we became fish, then monkeys then human. 

Does anyone actually believe this [deleted]?

or does anyone actually have a more logical explanation than a God?

 

People laugh about the idea of a creator but don't admit to not having an alternative theory where a simple 'dunno' would suffice.

 

I'm not sure either way but have my suspicions : )

You haven't kept up with advances in physics and quantum field theory. No need for any god nor any creator.

 

Disparage 'tHe sCiEnCe(TM)', and you might as well go back to bloodletting to cure disease and believing the Earth is the center of the Universe.

 

I guess it's a 'blessing' of sorts that the math and physics is so complicated that Flat Earth equivalents will never get their heads around it. It likely would scare them. Listen to a few talks by Neil Gershenfeld or Nima Arkani-Hamed. If you can follow it, you will begin to see the truly bizarre nature that reality is. Infinitely more interesting than virgin births, walking on water, or loaves of bread and fish feeding the many. Those are silly parlor tricks compared to what really is.

[scottiejohn]

54 minutes ago, sirineou said:

You never left , so no need for a return ticket , but in the multiverse there is a reality where I get the 12.99 so  be a good soldier and send me the damn 12.99????

Even better, there is a universe  where many of you send me the 12.99 (plus shipping and handling , I forgot to mention that)  so yea!  lets go with that one.  

I assume the address to send this funding is into a Nigerian bank account!

 

PS;  I am referring to the "Earthly" Nigeria!

Edited June 6, 2023 by scottiejohn

[lungbing]

6 hours ago, 2baht said:

If you're a Muslim, 76 virgins!

No, that was a mistranslation.  It's one virgin, aged 76.

[Moonlover]

1 hour ago, ICU Kid said:

People laugh about the idea of a creator but don't admit to not having an alternative theory where a simple 'dunno' would suffice.

I don't actually how many people laugh at the idea of there being a creator, but what I'm quite sure of is that there isn't and never has been any proof of it.

 

Whereas the development of life through evolution has been scientifically proven beyond any reasonable doubt. It's not an alternative theory, it's a scientific fact.

[ICU Kid]

59 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

You haven't kept up with advances in physics and quantum field theory. No need for any god nor any creator.

 

Listen to a few talks by Neil Gershenfeld or Nima Arkani-Hamed. If you can follow it, you will begin to see the truly bizarre nature that reality is. 

Baffle them with BS?

 

Please feel free to have a go and explain how life started from a 'big bang' (what caused it?) and how the magic bang dust came alive and became humans (good luck!).

 

PS. I don't believe the earth is flat but I would recommend bloodletting in some cases ;)

 

PPS. I don't believe in flat earth but neither do I believe that this 'thing' ever landed on the moon (though most people DO).  Look closely - it looks like a 3rd grade science project made with curtain rails, tin foil and the like. 

 

As events this decade have proven, if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth.

Edited June 6, 2023 by ICU Kid

[ICU Kid]

23 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

Whereas the development of life through evolution has been scientifically proven beyond any reasonable doubt. It's not an alternative theory, it's a scientific fact.

Just because we were taught to repeat it in school doesn't make it a fact.

 

BUT, if you wanna explain this 'big bang' and what or who caused it, and how whatever was blown up came alive and eventually turned into humans then please be my guest :)

 

PS. There's a good argument that species are NOT evolving - have you seen the youngsters nowadays?

 

PPS. How long do you think it will take for dogs to evolve so they can speak English?

Edited June 6, 2023 by ICU Kid

[LaosLover]

One time I left a Miles Davis playlist on and went out for the day. I came back and thought:

 

This is how it will be. The music will go on, and I'll just be somewhere else.

 

Sadly, prob not wearing a white robe, sitting on a cloud, and hanging out with Jesus and Sinatra.

 

I'll be part of the earth and that'll be it. My broken down elements will eventually create something new, but it's not like that something-new is going to be sending me a thank you-note.

[1FinickyOne]

33 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

there isn't and never has been any proof of it.

You have to look more carefully - check the pudding.

[3NUMBAS]

i died once when my heart stopped and you rise on high like your in a helicopter

i could see my mates            banging on my chest  from above and when it got going again i descended into my body again,but i had emptied my bowels into the my pants as you do when you die

[Kwasaki]

If I can still get on Aseannow I'll let ya know.

[Moonlover]

2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

If I can still get on Aseannow I'll let ya know.

Actually I haven't found a way to get off it. Not even whilst I'm still living.

[scottiejohn]

2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

I realise it was generated by AI.

And there was me thinking that it was you who was already AI generated!

[scottiejohn]

11 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

If I can still get on Aseannow I'll let ya know.

You mean they have better working connections where you are going to than we get down here!

[save the frogs]

19 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

i died once when my heart stopped and you rise on high like your in a helicopter

i could see my mates            banging on my chest  from above and when it got going again i descended into my body again,but i had emptied my bowels into the my pants as you do when you die

where were your mates? in heaven? with girls dangling on both arms?

DMT is released in the brain when you die. 

[Moonlover]

8 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

where were your mates? in heaven? with girls dangling on both arms?

DMT is released in the brain when you die. 

The idea that DMT is released when a person dies is based on anecdotal reports and speculation, rather than empirical evidence. (at least that's what ChatGPT says)

[scottiejohn]

5 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

that's what ChatGPT says

ChatGPT, you mean you have been chatting with God's Personal Translator?

[scottiejohn]

17 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

DMT is released in the brain when you die. 

Do you mean to say that "Don't Mention Trump" is released into MEGA believers on death or only to non MEGA believers?

[Neeranam]

8 hours ago, worgeordie said:

All your worries are over......RIP

regards Worgeordie

Far from it. 

 

When I leave this body, I will take another one, the soul can't die.

[Neeranam]

17 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

The idea that DMT is released when a person dies is based on anecdotal reports and speculation, rather than empirical evidence. (at least that's what ChatGPT says)

The physical body does lose a little weight when the soul departs. 

 

[Neeranam]

Those who say nothing happens after this life have sadly never glimpsed the realm of the sacred. 

I feel fortunate to have had quite profound spiritual experiences, seeing the reality of God, once in India and once in Thailand. 

Every day, I try to turn a glimpse into something that lasts longer but it isn't easy. 

I have little doubt that when I leave this body, I will go to a 'soul world' before coming back to another human body. In deep meditative states, I've experienced this soul world, which is 

like a very bright but gentle red/golden light, with an infinitesimal, omnipotent light, which is the Supreme soul/God.....

[sirineou]

9 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The physical body does lose a little weight when the soul departs. 

 

I tried all the weight loss diets to no avail ,.What the hell (pun intended) I'll give it a try. 

[SpaceKadet]

8 hours ago, 2baht said:

If you're a Muslim, 76 virgins!

Actually it's 76 virgins and 24 adolescent boys.

But you'll have to die a martyr and blow yourself and some others to pieces first.....

[Moonlover]

19 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

The physical body does lose a little weight when the soul departs. 

 

How was that established? You're not going to cite Duncan MacDougall's very flawed experiments I hope.

 

[save the frogs]

[Neeranam]

10 minutes ago, Moonlover said:

How was that established? You're not going to cite Duncan MacDougall's very flawed experiments I hope.

 

I saw a documentary, that might have been the guy, not sure.

[worgeordie]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Far from it. 

 

When I leave this body, I will take another one, the soul can't die.

Prove it .... have you ever seen one ?

 

regards worgeordie