BREAKING: Hunter Biden reaches deal with Justice Department to plead guilty to three federal charges

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

Two-tiered justice system.  Jail time for normal Americans—Bidens skate.

On what basis do you conclude 'jail time for normal Americans'?

[GroveHillWanderer]

13 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Exactly. Unbelievably lenient. I guess it pays to be son of the president.

 

The descent of the US to banana republic status under the Biden's continues at a rapid pace.

If that's the case, then perhaps it also pays to be an associate of and adviser to Donald Trump, since it's very similar to the deal given to Roger Stone.

 

Hunter Biden owed around $200,000 in taxes covering just two years, which he had already paid, plus fines, very early on in the piece.

 

Roger Stone had failed to pay his full taxes going all the way back to 2007 and eventually ended up agreeing in 2021 to pay $2,000,000 to the IRS. He, like Biden was also given a deal that did not include any jail time.

 

So where's the massive disparity there?

 

If anything, Stone's offences were even more egregious than Biden's, since he owed more, the offences covered a longer period of time and he was less cooperative in terms of paying back the money promptly, vowing initially to fight the charges and dragging it out for years before finally agreeing to pay up.

 

Roger Stone Finally Agrees to Pay $2 Million in Back Taxes

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1 hour ago, Isaan sailor said:

Two-tiered justice system.  Jail time for normal Americans—Bidens skate.

No, actually not normal in cases where income taxes aren't paid. Nor in cases where applicants for a gun permit lie on the application.

[Tug]

13 hours ago, placeholder said:

The federal attorney in charge of the investigation was appointed by Donald Trump. He was kept on by the Biden administration and promised no interference in the investigation. You've got nothing

That practice of always doing things correctly pays dividends in my book reading through the replies to the op demonstrates the abject desperation on the Republican side of the isle yup hunter skrewd up ok the court accepted the plea deal it’s done the result of hounding a recovering addict son of the current president who’s family has seen more BY far more than its fair share of tragedy.

[pomchop]

Yet another big years long republican investigation that in spite of their best efforts turns up a big nothing burger for lack of evidence that would stand up in court.  You can't get a grand jury to indict on conspiracy theories.rumours, deep state BS. 

 

You actually need real evidence. Otherwise if the grand jury fails to indict you end up looking like right wing fools.

[chalawaan]

4 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

If that's the case, then perhaps it also pays to be an associate of and adviser to Donald Trump, since it's very similar to the deal given to Roger Stone.

 

Hunter Biden owed around $200,000 in taxes covering just two years, which he had already paid, plus fines, very early on in the piece.

 

Roger Stone had failed to pay his full taxes going all the way back to 2007 and eventually ended up agreeing in 2021 to pay $2,000,000 to the IRS. He, like Biden was also given a deal that did not include any jail time.

 

So where's the massive disparity there?

 

If anything, Stone's offences were even more egregious than Biden's, since he owed more, the offences covered a longer period of time and he was less cooperative in terms of paying back the money promptly, vowing initially to fight the charges and dragging it out for years before finally agreeing to pay up.

 

Roger Stone Finally Agrees to Pay $2 Million in Back Taxes

I saw a video of the girl with the Nixon tattoo being interrogated, I thought she was going to have a seizure, man she was so pissed off! 

All a-grimace as a Gargoyle and almost chewing on her own tongue, it was wonderful TV!

[Lacessit]

How can a plea deal be a two-tier system? Ordinary citizens enter into plea bargains all the time.

It wouldn't surprise me if Trump was offered a plea deal - stay out of politics and social media, and you'll stay out of prison. I suspect most Republicans would be relieved, and only the most rabid would be bitching about it.

Of course, that would also mean he could not raise any more funds from the morons.

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Actually there's a pretty good case to be made that it did hurt him. It's very rare for the justice department the prosecute someone simply for not paying their taxes. It's almost always settled with an agreement to pay what's owed including penalties. And it's very rare that the feds prosecuting someone simply for lying on a gun license application.

[ozimoron]

You have no evidence for this inflammatory allegation and yet there is strong evidence that he took particular care not to, including retaining Trump's investigator. Stop repeating innuendo unless you can back it up. I'm not talking about the crack, rather the inference that daddy put his finger on the scales.

Edited June 22, 2023 by ozimoron

[Rimmer]

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[riclag]

14 hours ago, Isaan sailor said:

Two-tiered justice system.  Jail time for normal Americans—Bidens skate.

Hope I live long enough to see the agencies gutted!

 

“Hunter entirely avoided charges for money laundering and allegedly violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act by representing the interests of foreign clients before the US government. He also avoided drug charges that disproportionately ensnared racial minorities under his father’s legislation, despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

 

“The American people are sick and tired of this two-tiered justice system and as a black man, I’m tired of seeing this kind of discretion used to favor people like Hunter Biden because he’s white and the son of a president,” despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/black-men-are-being-jailed-years-for-same-crimes-as-hunter-biden-rep-wesley-hunt/

 

Edited June 22, 2023 by riclag

[ozimoron]

9 minutes ago, riclag said:

Hope I live long enough to see the agencies gutted!

 

“Hunter entirely avoided charges for money laundering and allegedly violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act by representing the interests of foreign clients before the US government. He also avoided drug charges that disproportionately ensnared racial minorities under his father’s legislation, despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

 

“The American people are sick and tired of this two-tiered justice system and as a black man, I’m tired of seeing this kind of discretion used to favor people like Hunter Biden because he’s white and the son of a president,” despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/black-men-are-being-jailed-years-for-same-crimes-as-hunter-biden-rep-wesley-hunt/

 

Ya'll ever tried to convict somebody on a drug use charge from a photo? It doesn't work.

Edited June 22, 2023 by ozimoron

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1 hour ago, riclag said:

Hope I live long enough to see the agencies gutted!

 

“Hunter entirely avoided charges for money laundering and allegedly violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act by representing the interests of foreign clients before the US government. He also avoided drug charges that disproportionately ensnared racial minorities under his father’s legislation, despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

 

“The American people are sick and tired of this two-tiered justice system and as a black man, I’m tired of seeing this kind of discretion used to favor people like Hunter Biden because he’s white and the son of a president,” despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/black-men-are-being-jailed-years-for-same-crimes-as-hunter-biden-rep-wesley-hunt/

 

Is there any evidence at all that Biden was money laundering? Did he lobby for foreign interests before the U.S. government? More empty accusations. 

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Hunter entirely avoided charges for money laundering and allegedly violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act by representing the interests of foreign clients before the US government.

Please provide some evidence that Hunter Biden ever lobbied the US government on behalf of foreign clients - or laundered money.

 

A Trump-appointed prosecutor investigated him for 5 years but the only crimes they could find were the tax and gun-related offences under discussion here.

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On 6/21/2023 at 7:34 AM, Hanaguma said:

Pretty sweeet deal. Misdemeanour pleas, no jail time.  Can't believe that tax fraud over a million dollars is a misdemeanour, but whatever.

On the far more serious weapons related felonies, he can also skate.  Can't see that happening to most Americans whose last name is not Biden.  Fake gun application, use/display of weapon illegally obtained while consuming illegal drugs, then LOSING the illegally obtained weapon.

It's good to be the king. Or at least the son of the king.

Good news! You don't have to believe that tax fraud over a million dollars is a misdemeanour.  The actual amount was a bit over $200000. And there's more good news. It wasn't tax fraud. He didn't pay the money he owed but there's no evidence to tried to conceal his earning. He just failed to pay.

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[GroveHillWanderer]

22 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Nobody else gets such leniency for massive tax evasion and illegal possession of a firearm.

Oh, they most certainly do. On the firearms charge, as others have pointed out, almost nobody is jailed for putting false information on a gun purchase application.

 

And as I already mentioned, Roger Stone got an even better deal on failure to pay taxes. He owed 10 times as much in unpaid tax as Hunter Biden, the offences stretched over a much longer period of time and he refused to cooperate, contesting the charges for years before finally admitting guilt. Yet he also got off without any jail time.

 

So if Hunter got a "sweetheart deal" only because people in the Biden administration were helping him (of which there is no evidence) then who in that administration do you think intervened to help Roger Stone?

 

Or maybe, just maybe, both cases illustrate how such offences are routinely handled.

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3 hours ago, riclag said:

Hope I live long enough to see the agencies gutted!

 

“Hunter entirely avoided charges for money laundering and allegedly violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act by representing the interests of foreign clients before the US government. He also avoided drug charges that disproportionately ensnared racial minorities under his father’s legislation, despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

 

“The American people are sick and tired of this two-tiered justice system and as a black man, I’m tired of seeing this kind of discretion used to favor people like Hunter Biden because he’s white and the son of a president,” despite many photos of him using crack cocaine on his abandoned laptop.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/21/black-men-are-being-jailed-years-for-same-crimes-as-hunter-biden-rep-wesley-hunt/

 

This is from factcheck.org. It's a nice splash of cold reality re the allegations in the NY Post article: 

Republican Claims About Hunter Biden Offenses

"Andrew Weissmann, a former federal prosecutor and FBI general counsel, said that first-time tax offenders “rarely get prosecuted” and it’s “even rarer” for them to be jailed.

“And false gun applications sadly also almost never get prosecuted or jail time. So this is if anything harsh, not lenient,” he wrote in a June 20 tweet.

Renato Mariotti, another former federal prosecutor, also tweeted that “[m]isdemeanor tax charges are rarely charged on their own, without felony tax counts.”

https://www.factcheck.org/2023/06/republican-claims-about-hunter-biden-offenses/

 

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[riclag]

3 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Please provide some evidence that Hunter Biden ever lobbied the US government on behalf of foreign clients - or laundered money.

 

A Trump-appointed prosecutor investigated him for 5 years but the only crimes they could find were the tax and gun-related offences under discussion here.

The doj shutdown, removed the IRS whistleblower who complained that the investigation into biden criminality was being interfered with by officials in the Doj .

Weiss hasnt closed the case despite what biden lawyer claims imop

Im just as anxious as you are to see the testimony by a higher up in the IRS, that could possibly shed more light on money exchanges that resulted in 150 sars.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hunter-biden-irs-whistleblower-removed-194912072.html

 

 

Edited June 22, 2023 by riclag

[ozimoron]

8 minutes ago, riclag said:

The doj shutdown, removed the IRS whistleblower who complained that the investigation into biden criminality was being interfered with by officials in the Doj .
Im just as anxious as you are to see the testimony by a higher up in the IRS, that could possibly shed more light on money exchanges that resulted in 150 sars.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hunter-biden-irs-whistleblower-removed-194912072.html

 

 

The IRS said in a statement that it "is deeply committed to protecting the role of whistleblowers, and there are robust processes and procedures in place to protect whistleblowers."

[GroveHillWanderer]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

The doj shutdown, removed the IRS whistleblower who complained that the investigation into biden criminality was being interfered with by officials in the Doj .

Weiss hasnt closed the case despite what biden lawyer claims imop

Im just as anxious as you are to see the testimony by a higher up in the IRS, that could possibly shed more light on money exchanges that resulted in 150 sars.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hunter-biden-irs-whistleblower-removed-194912072.html 

None of that's evidence though, is it?

 

For instance, as I'm sure you're aware since you're following this so closely, the filing of an SAR is not evidence of misconduct. They are automatically generated based on the transaction type and amount.

[Pink Mist]

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1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

None of that's evidence though, is it?

 

For instance, as I'm sure you're aware since you're following this so closely, the filing of an SAR is not evidence of misconduct. They are automatically generated based on the transaction type and amount.

The Truth About Suspicious Activity Reports

Our data indicate that about 4 percent of SARs result in any follow-up from law enforcement. A tiny subset of these results in an arrest and ultimately a conviction....

Generally, law enforcement already has suspicions about someone and then goes to the SAR database to gather evidence and find other suspects.

https://bpi.com/the-truth-about-suspicious-activity-reports/

[Chomper Higgot]

On 6/21/2023 at 9:30 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

As we see, they simply add another conspiracy to their conspiracy pile.

I should have bought a lottery ticket.

[Neeranam]

On 6/20/2023 at 9:23 PM, Tug said:

Good I hope he can continue to maintain his sobriety good luck and put that part of your life behind you.the Biden’s have had more than their fair share of tragedy 

I hope he isn't blaming his disease for his crimes. 

To stay sober, one must be totally honest and humble.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 23, 2023 by Neeranam